How To Correctly Forgive And Deal With Anger? The Cross?

[GoldenKingGaze]

Fellows, how do you forgive? Must all anger go, isn't there Godly anger? Must that go? How can you discern between that to be let go off and that which is self respect...?

How do you defend yourself? And forgive? Do you meditate on the cross like I try to? Do you need determination?

What about Jesus blood, and the love of God, graces?

 

[Elijah2]

Mate, forgiveness comes from very hard work. John Sandford and Neil Anderson have written a number of books on "inner healing", and "Freedom in Christ".

In His Word is says about being "angry without a cause or reason" (see Matt. 5:22). Therefore, if there is a real reason and caused for you being angry, that is fair enough, but His Word also says that not to let the sun set on anger (see Eph. 4:26).

Now our Lord Jesus Christ went through the temple in anger throwing chairs and tables everywhere. HE had a reason and cause for HIS actions. But, when we read the NIV, then even our Lord Jesus Christ was sinning for being angry.

Fellows, how do you forgive?
To forgive we have to work through our anger, bitterness, and resentfulness when we can do that and reconcile ourself with our Lord Jesus Christ and His Word by transforming and renewing our “spiritual mind”, our heart, and then forgiveness will flow from our heart. Our tongue will speak what comes from our heart.

All our hurts and offences will fester into bitterness if we don’t reconciles ourselves with our Lord Jesus Christ before the sun sets on that day.

We forgive those who sin against us, but if we let it go because of our pride, then our anger will turn into bitterness, then resentfulness, and then unforgiveness.

To start the road of forgiveness, we need confess and repent all our sins, then we need to consider our pride. The more we confess and repent, the more we will come to forgiveness.

Must all anger go, isn't there Godly anger?
Yes, there is spiritual anger, but we don’t carry that anger over to the next day, we lay it at the cross before we go to bed. And we don’t fob it all off as though it was really nothing when in fact it was.

Must that go?
If anger and bitterness is confessed and repented immediately, or before the sun sets, then you will wake up next morning in a better state. Now if it doesn’t go away, then the Holy Spirit is convicting you on something else that needs to be dealt with, which is normally pride.

Many say that they confess and repent, but they don’t really, because when you ask them to forgive, they yes I forgive them, and then you say to love them. Then listen to them give all the reasons why they shouldn’t love them.

So forgiveness also goes to the depth of love.

How can you discern between that to be let go off and that which is self respect...?
If a person offends through insults, belittling, embarrassing you, then you need to bring it to their attention, particularly if they are a Christian and reconcile it with them.

But, an unbeliever is hard at times, but you can still speak the words to our Lord Jesus Christ.

How do you defend yourself?
Why defend yourself, just confess and repent for being angry, and forgive that person who upset you or offended you.

And forgive?
Beside forgiving, you have to love them as well.

Do you meditate on the cross like I try to?
You can meditate to no avail if you haven’t confessed, repented, and forgive!

Do you need determination?
Yes, because your determination will come by feeling peace on your heart.

What about Jesus blood, and the love of God, graces?
That’s all great mate, but that does make you wrongs---right! Only confession, repentance, forgiveness, and love reconciles you with our Lord Jesus Christ.

Be blessed in Jesus’ Name.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Fellows, how do you forgive? Must all anger go, isn't there Godly anger? Must that go? How can you discern between that to be let go off and that which is self respect...?

How do you defend yourself? And forgive? Do you meditate on the cross like I try to? Do you need determination?

What about Jesus blood, and the love of God, graces?

Hi GoldenKingGaze,

How you don this yet in your life from your heart:

Mark 1:15-18

15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

16 Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.

17 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.

18 And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.
KJV

 

[irenemcg]

First and foremost remember you have been forgiven much. We have a new nature,we are being transformed into the mind of Christ and the Lord himself spoke of forgiving 70 times 7 times.

Mat 18:21 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"
Mat 18:22 Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
Mat 18:23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
Mat 18:24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.
Mat 18:25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.
Mat 18:26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, "Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
Mat 18:27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, "Pay me what you owe!'
Mat 18:29 So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, "Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
Mat 18:30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt.
Mat 18:31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.
Mat 18:32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, "You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me.
Mat 18:33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?'
Mat 18:34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
Mat 18:35 "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."

You could read R. T. Kendal’s book “Total Forgiveness, it's worth a read!”

 

[Angeloffire]

Fellows, how do you forgive? Must all anger go, isn't there Godly anger? Must that go? How can you discern between that to be let go off and that which is self respect...?

How do you defend yourself? And forgive? Do you meditate on the cross like I try to? Do you need determination?

What about Jesus blood, and the love of God, graces?

Hi...

Have you ever noticed that you can't just 'decide' to not get angry? And that the harder you try to 'not' get angry the worse it seems to get?

I was given a wonderous revelation on anger and how it works and will post my article link here.

Basically anger comes from misplaced desires. We get mad because we don't get what we want.

When we want something...it might be love, appreciation, people to see us in particular light, etc....and we don't get it, we get frustrated and angry.

When you see how to rise above this and the truth of what is going on in your heart, you will be free.

After having this revealed to your heart....You will actually have to work at it to even get mad! It is awesome! I know because it was my worst character trait....so this wisdom is straight from the Holy Spirit as it was revealed to me.

I was struggling the other day to even raise my voice when someone became very beligerant to me and finally just had to chuckle and thank God for the very well done deliverance as I had no desire to even argue at all.

So if you destroy the root of anger with Truth, the anger goes away....

http://www.breadandwineministries.org/linked/how to destroy anger.pdf

Blessings,

AOF

 

[souldancer]

blessings

 

[KleinerApfel]

Souldancer, don't despair. ((((((((Hug)))))))))

It is never too late, God never gives up on us, hold on. And I know sometimes you might just not want to, because I've been there too, (and only very recently, and I am not so well and free as yet that I can feel sure of not finding myself there again.)

Anger generally has a root of fear, and if we're angry with ourselves that would be no different. Something/spomeone, at some time, put great fear into you. You need healing, that's no cause for guilt and shame.


I don't have an answer that will just make it all go away, but I do know that God keeps working on untangling us as quickly and gently as He can. While you and I are frustrated that it's not faster, we need to remember and tahnk God for the mercy of His patience and tenderness in doing everything at a pace we can handle.

I want to argue - Lord! That is NO way near fast enough!
But that never has worked for me, and I guess you're finding the same?

Keep going, just breathe, just place one foot in front of the other. meanwhile, cherish any tiny seed of trust in Jesus that you glimpse out of the corner of your eye, and know that to Him it is a beautiful treasure.
To Him YOU are a beautiful treasure. Yes, yes! beloved and beautiful treasure!

 

[souldancer]

blessings

 

[KleinerApfel]

Thank you for answering me.

I read on one of these threads that what you feel or say or something like that you pass on the negative energy. I just saw your post in the other thread up there and I feel like that's what just happened. You stepped out to help me and it threw you backwards. At least I think that's what happened. I never heard that about passing negative energy by our feelings before but it sure seems like that's what happened. I am so sorry. You did a righteous thing in answering to me. I'm so in need of someone to talk to. I didn't realize this could happen. I want to try to pass back to you the good feeling you had before you posted me. I just don't know how. The only thing I know how to do is pray. I don't think I'm very good at that but I'll try. You are a very nice person.

No! It's ok!

I don't believe it's "negative energy" as such - more that the enemy likes to throw a spanner in the works when we look as if we're sailing along smoothly! Don't fret, it really isn't your doing in any way whatsoever, I promise.

I've battled this for a long time now, this up and down thing is business as usual. I have also recently been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, and sometimes am overwhelmed with physical exhaustion, suddenly and for no apparent reason, that amplifies any residual depressive feelings.

There's one thing that shows me the heart of God more than anything else in this world, and that's when He lights up someone needing a word and I get to encourage someone else. You blessed me, in other words.

I apologise for the earthen vessel His gift comes in, but even in my messy emotional delivery I know God is truly very good indeed, and loves us beyond our wildest imaginings.

Now, if you ever want to talk more to this weird woman on the internet, I'm not going anywhere!
Meanwhile, thank you for your prayer - even the most fragile and faithless ones are lifted to heaven just the same, I know that because those are the ones He answers for me, so nobody can tell me otherwise.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

This is part of where I am at. My late pastor shortly before I was born again told me, I believe in the Spirit, "You will find the hardest thing to do in your Christian walk is to forgive yourself."

I know we want repayment through anger and exactings of justice. But by this and by other means, they cannot repay and will not, pointless. By anger we are tied to the offense, our hands are on their throat. Also we need forgive God and ourselves.

Jesus took it and the answer is in His blood. Jesus was crushed for our iniquities.

From God comes all good things, and He rebuilds things. Such as the Earth, as when the Spirit hovered over the deep, waiting for the creative word.

According to the revelation by Derek Prince, about the Cross. It was a place of great exchange, for sin, justice, for dishonour, honour, for death, life...

I imagine, not so much in pictures, that King David is on one side of the cross, and on the other Uriah. Surely they are in total peace now.

I also imagine standing on one side of the cross, and my enemy on the other side, Jesus took his rap, and repays me my hurts, my lost honour... Jesus created the the best things, and can recreate them.

By Jesus blood, I can have peace, healing, honour and restoration.

My adversary cannot repay me, and I will not maintain the effort, and release from my hands and my heart his neck, let him go.

I will let him go and trust Jesus to repay, and balance justice with mercy and justify and discipline and love that one.

Let go with determination and trust. Release my hands facing away to Jesus and the cross, thinking of the price He paid and the blood.

It washes away the sin of my enemy and gives him justification, healing...

I can open my hands to Jesus and he will restore me, fill my hurt and dishonour with more than I lost.

Jesus makes peace through the cross and reconciles adversaries.

His redeemer, my restorer. And vice versa.

I am also presently looking at forgiving myself.

 

[Deba]

I was recently talking with someone about anger and he suggested that anger was an expression of pain.

 

[Angeloffire]

Fellows, how do you forgive? Must all anger go, isn't there Godly anger? Must that go? How can you discern between that to be let go off and that which is self respect...?

How do you defend yourself? And forgive? Do you meditate on the cross like I try to? Do you need determination?

What about Jesus blood, and the love of God, graces?

In order to forgive people you have to realise why you are angry with them in the first place. If you try to just stop being angry, then you will become angry at yourself for being angry and the whole thing just grows.

I struggled with anger issues and was given a really good revelation on the root of anger. Once the root is destroyed, it is easy to forgive and it won't come back to haunt you either.

If you, through your own strength, try and 'make' yourself not be angry...this will only make things worse....

Here's a link to my article. I hope it greatly blesses you.

http://www.breadandwineministries.org/linked/how to destroy anger.pdf

blessings,

AOF

 

[Seeking Him]

This is part of where I am at. My late pastor shortly before I was born again told me, I believe in the Spirit, "You will find the hardest thing to do in your Christian walk is to forgive yourself."

I know we want repayment through anger and exactings of justice. But by this and by other means, they cannot repay and will not, pointless. By anger we are tied to the offense, our hands are on their throat. Also we need forgive God and ourselves.

Jesus took it and the answer is in His blood. Jesus was crushed for our iniquities.

From God comes all good things, and He rebuilds things. Such as the Earth, as when the Spirit hovered over the deep, waiting for the creative word.

According to the revelation by Derek Prince, about the Cross. It was a place of great exchange, for sin, justice, for dishonour, honour, for death, life...

I imagine, not so much in pictures, that King David is on one side of the cross, and on the other Uriah. Surely they are in total peace now.

I also imagine standing on one side of the cross, and my enemy on the other side, Jesus took his rap, and repays me my hurts, my lost honour... Jesus created the the best things, and can recreate them.

By Jesus blood, I can have peace, healing, honour and restoration.

My adversary cannot repay me, and I will not maintain the effort, and release from my hands and my heart his neck, let him go.

I will let him go and trust Jesus to repay, and balance justice with mercy and justify and discipline and love that one.

Let go with determination and trust. Release my hands facing away to Jesus and the cross, thinking of the price He paid and the blood.

It washes away the sin of my enemy and gives him justification, healing...

I can open my hands to Jesus and he will restore me, fill my hurt and dishonour with more than I lost.

Jesus makes peace through the cross and reconciles adversaries.

His redeemer, my restorer. And vice versa.

I am also presently looking at forgiving myself.

I like what you said about Jesus's blood bringing peace and healing. There is an old prayer called "Anima Christi" "In thy wounds hide me" is one of the lines.

Derek Prince has blessed me with his teachings on the cross and how all the grace we will ever need flows from the cross to us. He says we have been delivered, body, soul ,and spirit from the domain of darkness and translated into the kingdom of God. We are out of the enemies territory by Jesus's death on the cross.

Jesus said from the cross "Father forgive them they know not what they do" He won the graces for us to forgive through Him. Really, we can't forgive in our own strength, if we could we wouldn't need Jesus. We can be willing, but that's about all. Without me you can do nothing, Jesus said.