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LDS How this come to your mind?

Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by Goodhuman, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. Goodhuman

    Goodhuman New Member

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    How come to your mind, that humans can become angels, who are genderless creatures and we have gender? Or gods, while God is only one?
     
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  2. At Your Footstool

    At Your Footstool Cool people hang with Christ Supporter

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    Now here is my problem concerning the Godhead, during Christ's ministry on earth, Would Christ pray to Himself or to a different Being? At times I am left feeling like there's just one power...
     
  3. Aussie Pete

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    People do not become angels. When we get out new bodies, we will have no gender and we will still be recognisably human.
     
  4. Aussie Pete

    Aussie Pete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Christ was God but also man. He lived, ministered, died and rose again as man. So it was in His human capacity that he prayed.
     
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  5. Phoebe Ann

    Phoebe Ann From Mormonism to Christ Supporter

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    In that religion, the obedient LDS becime gods(males) and goddesses (females). Those who do not obey have changes to their bodies and are incapable of having children.
     
  6. Phoebe Ann

    Phoebe Ann From Mormonism to Christ Supporter

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    The Nicene Creed is based on the Bible
    CF Statement of Faith | Christian Forums

    This diagram helps me:

    Christian Trinity Symbol.jpg

    Hebrews 1 : 1, 2, 8 — God the Father calls the Son, "God."
    Acts 5 : 3-4 --Peter calls the Holy Spirit, "God."
    John 6 : 27 --Jesus calls the Father, "God."

    When you have time study more verses about God.

    For instance, who raised Jesus from the dead?

    1. Acts 10 : 39-40
    2. 1 Thessalonians 1 : 10
    3. Romans 8 : 11
    4. John 2 : 19-22
     
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  7. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    Gender is a human construct, part physical and part social.
     
  8. Qwertyui0p

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    We do not become angels or gods.
     
  9. Daniel Marsh

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    Jesus as a man or human side would be praying to God the Father.

    Today,

    Romans 8

    26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

    27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

    34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
     
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  10. Phoebe Ann

    Phoebe Ann From Mormonism to Christ Supporter

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    Jesus isn't the Father or Holy Spirit. He prayed to the Father not Himself.

    When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me (John 15:26).
     
  11. He is the way

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    Spirits are angels and angels are spirits:

    (New Testament | Hebrews 1:13 - 14)

    13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
    14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
     
  12. Daniel Marsh

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    Hebrews 1 J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)
    1 1-4 God, who gave our forefathers many different glimpses of the truth in the words of the prophets, has now, at the end of the present age, given us the truth in the Son. Through the Son God made the whole universe, and to the Son he has ordained that all creation shall ultimately belong. This Son, radiance of the glory of God, flawless expression of the nature of God, himself the upholding principle of all that is, effected in person the reconciliation between God and man and then took his seat at the right hand of the majesty on high—thus proving himself, by the more glorious name that he has won, far greater than all the angels of God.

    Scripture endorses this superiority
    5-14 For to which of the angels did he ever say such words as these: ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you?’ Or, again ‘I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?’ Further, when he brings his first-born into this world of men, he says: ‘Let all the angels of God worship him’ This is what he says of the angels: ‘Who makes his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire’ But when he speaks of the Son, he says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your companions’. He also says: ‘You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will not fail’. But does he ever say this of any of the angels: ‘Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool?’ Surely the angels are no more than spirits in the service of God, commissioned to serve the heirs of God’s salvation.
     
  13. Daniel Marsh

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    "Swedenborg declares that every angel was once a human being living on earth:

    On the grounds of all my experience, which has lasted for several years now, I can say with full confidence that in their form, angels are completely human. They have faces, eyes, ears, chests, arms, hands, and feet. They see each other, hear each other, and talk to each other. In short, they lack nothing that belongs to humans except that they are not clothed with a material body. (Heaven and Hell #75)

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    When people shed their physical bodies and enter the spiritual world, at first they look much the same as they did on earth. Over time, however, their inner selves are revealed, and it changes the way they appear to others. Angels become more and more beautiful the closer they get to the Lord: “I have seen faces of angels of the third heaven so beautiful that no painters, with all their skill, could render a fraction of their light with their pigments or rival a thousandth part of the light and life that show in their faces” (Heaven and Hell #459).

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    Angels all look youthful. This is because “people in heaven are continually progressing toward the springtime of life.” Swedenborg adds, “The more thousands of years they live, the more pleasant and happy is their springtime.” This, too, is in direct correspondence to their continually deepening spiritual states: “This continues forever, increasing according to the growth and level of their love, thoughtfulness, and faith” (Heaven and Hell #414).

    Related video: What We Look Like in the Afterlife – Swedenborg and Life
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    Angels – Swedenborg Foundation
     
  14. Daniel Marsh

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    1 Corinthians 6:3, "Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?"
     
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