How tall were the Nephilim

[JacksBratt]

Maybe... but he also was 969 (the year he died) when Noah was 600 (the year the flood came).
Poor Methusaleh!

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I would not say "poor" Methuselah or "poor" any man or woman who lived to be older than any human.

Methuselah lived to see the coming days of the flood.

However I highly doubt that the son of Enoch.. the man that was so good that God "took" him.. I highly doubt that Enoch's son would live to be the oldest man ever.. and drown in the flood..

Not just that.. but he would have been well aware of why the ark was built. It's highly unlikely that he was not righteous and that he did not believe in God.

Methuselah: When Did He Die?

Some have suggested that Methuselah died immediately before the Flood. Whether this is true or not, we cannot be certain. God's instruction for Noah and His family to board the Ark seven days in advance was for several reasons (Genesis 7:1, 4, 10). Obviously, one reason was to complete the final phase of loading the animals (Genesis 7:2–9), and a second was a final test of faith for Noah and his family, the final boarding being on the seventh day (Genesis 7:11–16).

 

[mmksparbud]

Maybe... but he also was 969 (the year he died) when Noah was 600 (the year the flood came).
Poor Methusaleh!

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Jewish names are very interesting and have much meaning to them.

Methuselah meaning
The name Methuselah consists of two elements. The first part is מת (mat), which is either one of a few words to denote man or mankind, and used most often to indicate a male capable of combat, or it comes from the similar verb מות (mut) meaning to kill or die:
The verb שלח (shalah) means to send; to send whatever from messengers to arrows. It may even be used to describe a plant's offshoots or branches.
Noun שלח (shelah) refers to some kind of weapon, apparently a kind of missile. Plural noun שלוחים (shilluhim) means a send-off; a sending away or parting gift. Noun שלוחה (sheluha) refers to a shoot or branch. Noun משלח (mishlah) describes an outstretching of one's hand (i.e. an undertaking, or referring to the place where the letting go takes place). Noun משלוח (mishloah) also means an outstretching or a sending. Noun משלחת (mishlahat) describes a discharge from service, or a deputation.
The noun שלחן (shulhan) means table. It may actually stem from a whole other but identical verb that originally described the skinning an animal and stretching the hide out to dry. Possibly helped by the previous verb, this outstretching of a hide became attached to the laying down of a blanket (or indeed a hide) in order to stall goods on it (like the elements of a meal). When someone invented a table on legs the word to describe it was lifted from the old custom of picnicking on a blanket: a stretcher-outer.

For a meaning of the name Methuselah, Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names reads מות (mut) for the first part and translates the whole name with When He Is Dead It Shall Be Sent. NOBSE Study Bible Name List and BDB Theological Dictionary both read מת (mat) for the first part; NOBSE translates the whole name with Man Of A Javelin; BDB proposes Man Of The Dart.
Note that although a name that means Man Of A Javelin may seem a touch daft to modern ears, the ethnonyms Saxon and Frank both derive from words for a kind of weapon that served as a symbol for a high social status.
The amazing name Methuselah: meaning and etymology

The first meaning of the name, makes sense because of the flood. Most Jewish scholars take the name to mean "When He is dead it shall come" and it is believed by them that Noah died of old age just before the flood came

 

[Petros2015]

For a meaning of the name Methuselah, Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names reads מות (mut) for the first part and translates the whole name with When He Is Dead It Shall Be Sent.

And THEN comes the flood. OK, I like that one better.

 

[JackRT]

Methusaleh lived to 969. I find it interesting to note that 969 divided by 12 is just under 81. I find that most interesting.

 

[JacksBratt]

Methusaleh lived to 969. I find it interesting to note that 969 divided by 12 is just under 81. I find that most interesting.

Why do you find that interesting?

 

[JackRT]

Why do you find that interesting?

There are 12 months in a year.

 

[JacksBratt]

There are 12 months in a year.

Still, I'm not sure of your point.

Are you suggesting that a year was shorter? Or are you suggesting that God shortened our lives by 1/12 ? Or just a coincidence.

 

[JackRT]

Still, I'm not sure of your point.

Are you suggesting that a year was shorter? Or are you suggesting that God shortened our lives by 1/12 ? Or just a coincidence.

There is an "or" that is being completely ignored. Perhaps the story is not a literal story at all. Perhaps it is a tribal myth. If this story came out of Greek or Roman or Celtic or Norse origins we would have absolutely no problem in regarding them as non-literal.

 

[JackRT]

When I said "I find it interesting to note that 969 divided by 12 is just under 81" is that if 969 were months rather than years his age would be reasonable.

 

[JacksBratt]

When I said "I find it interesting to note that 969 divided by 12 is just under 81" is that if 969 were months rather than years his age would be reasonable.

I don't find his age to be "unreasonable". Not when you deem the scriptures to be truth.

Soon as you start picking holes in the integrity of scripture... you open yourself up for trouble.

You say it would be reasonable.. Do you think that his accepted age is impossible?

 

[JackRT]

I don't find his age to be "unreasonable". Not when you deem the scriptures to be truth.

I do not regard the Bible as literal its entirety or as inerrant.

Soon as you start picking holes in the integrity of scripture... you open yourself up for trouble.

Perhaps in your estimation. I make a distinction between true stories and truth stories.

You say it would be reasonable.. Do you think that his accepted age is impossible?

Actually yes.

 

[johneb]

Is it possible that a person could do things or acts that could change them? Say from human to something else.
I am not convinced the fallen Angles mated with humans in a literal sense after or maybe before the flood. Is it possible that through demonic instruction a human's DNA could be changed and could that change be past down to their offspring?
This is what got me thinking about this,