According to Enoch, the Nephilim were 4500 ft tall, so some said that is a mistake it should be 450---OK
You call that normal?
This is describing the offspring.. Not the fallen angels. They can be perfectly the same size as humans.. as we already know.
Sons of God were those men that followed God. And the bible, even in the OT has many instances were God call us His children and He our Father .
There are other areas in the scripture where the language used is the same as in Genesis for "Son's of God". It is, in those cases, indicating angelic beings. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7
Also, the text says "Son's of God" and "daughters of man".... See the contrast?
Who Are the Sons of God in Genesis 6?
In 1 Peter 3:18–22, Peter refers to spirits in prison because they disobeyed in Noah’s day (1 Pet. 3:19–20). Though disputed, the word “spirits” most likely refers to evil spirits (cf. Matt. 8:16; 12:45; Luke 4:36; 10:20; Acts 19:12–16). The connection of these spirits with Noah’s day points strongly to Genesis 6. That these “spirits in prison” are fallen angels is further confirmed by similar passages in 2 Peter and Jude.
No, they do not, that is why they are not canon, even in the Jewish canon.
A history book is not wrong.. just because it is not canonical.... Or... we are in big trouble.
These books are used by theologians constantly.
And, yes.. they support the canon.
Again---appearing as human does not make them actually human. Fallen angels posses people, they can not become human, only impersonate or posses.
You showed me nothing about Lot and the angels except that human men found them desirable---the same human men who find other men desirable and even animals.
So, we can conclude that there is no evidence that they can.... and no evidence that they cannot have human genitalia...
Stalemate.
Actually, this was done.. and although many of the offspring died.. there was a case that one did survive to adulthood.What human evolutionists make up is no better than what all this science fiction is. It is a stretch as big as apes impregnating human women.
Interesting, while sick.. story.
Angels can defy God, they can not procreate with humans and there is not one single prove of them doing so.
Except in Genesis 6 ... right?
There is only one verse that has been badly misinterpreted---that is all. There is, however, Jesus saying angels do not marry. He did not say---but fallen angels can. Angels care nothing about God's rules, why in the world would they then "marry" women--that is a human religious ceremony. And don't bother with that it is just "shyness" on the part of the translators for there are plenty of other places where there is no such "shyness" at all.
The exact wording is " and they took them wives ".
Jesus says:
Matthew 22:30
King James Version
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
NOTICE: These are:
1/ Angels of God and
2/ In heaven.
I know how they arrive at it. I am saying that we and apes and we and angels ---are the same distance apart. Angels are not our kind. Jesus became human, He became lower than the angels. He is not their kind, we are not their kind.
How do you know how close angels can come to being human when they "leave their first estate"?
Back to this.. neither of us can prove or disprove that they can have human genitalia... remember?
There is absolutely no factual basis tgo state that angels can reproduce. Jesus said they do not marry, which means no sex. God does not create useless appendages that have no function. God's creations are perfect.
Already covered that. Angels of God and Angels in heaven..
They can change to look identical to a human..There is not one verse that states angels created anything. It is a misinterpretation of one verse. There is no other basis for such wild speculation at all. They can impersonate humans, they can impersonate animals---they can not actually create---that is the realm of God alone, He is the creator. Anything else is totally not factual and blasphemous.
Again.. we discussed this...
That is they have free wi8ll as do we. We can't actual create anything either. We can procreate, that is as far as our abilities to create goes. We can't make our own genitals change, except through surgery. And that still does not make a woman have the ability to impregnate another woman with a surgical penis. Angels can't either, they have no reason to have any child producing "equipment." When God made them, He did not make them male and female, they only have male names they do not marry. They have free will only, they can choose to go against God, they can not go beyond what He has allowed. Even Satan has to ask permission before he could harm Job. They, nor we, can ignore the command "after their kind." They are not our kind."
I'm pretty sure that angels are able to far more than we can in this life , place and time.
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Yes, the angels did not stay with God---it does not say anything about 70 generations. And this is talking about the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, who in like manner went after strange flesh---not that the angels did. You are putting your own ideas into that verse.
OK, the 70 generations is from Enoch... However.. I'm pretty sure that a book that is quoted in the canon.. is pretty solid in it's content.
The Book of Enoch as the Background to 1 Peter, 2 Peter, and Jude
And who said that they couldn't repent? I didn't. I am saying that this theory has God giving the fallen angels the power to procreate after they fell, but then kills all their offspring. That makes no sense at all. He doesn't kill the fallen angels, but their chi8ldren and that after He gave them the ablity to have them. No---makes no sense. They were not able to procreate in heaven, and they remained unable to do so after the fall. Jesus is not a liar.
Looking at your quote again.. You said it was sick that God killed the offspring of the unions of Genesis 6. The reason He did was because the whole purpose of those offspring (fallen angel/human) was to corrupt the human gene pool so that Christ could not be fully human and could not save the human race.
And........................It almost worked.. Only Noah, his wife and his three boys were "Perfect in their generations"... So.. it was down to 5 pure humans on the earth.
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