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No I haven't planted any churches. Nor do I go walking in the desert at midday on a hot sunny day where one can easily get sun stroke and hallucinate all manner of things.
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No I haven't planted any churches. Nor do I go walking in the desert at midday on a hot sunny day where one can easily get sun stroke and hallucinate all manner of things.Frankly you are not an apostle who planted more churches than the other apostles combined.
IMO that mature Christian and an immature Christian argument is a canard to explain away problems.
Did I say anything about Paul that I did not back up with Scripture?
Out of context I'm sure. Please review the epistles of Peter and John as well. Same Gospel of Grace preached there.Read Galatians...I'm sure you can find some anti-law quotes by Paul.
To answer all your questions would require a book. You may have to wait for the book and maybe the movie.Which of the scriptures you quoted do you believe are inspired by the Holy Spirit? Which ones did you provide a suitable exegesis for as @Der Alter did in his posts.
You began your postings with an assertion Paul was a false prophet and found snippets to fuel your eisegesis.
I can read the Washington Post for such "investigative reporting."
What does your canon of Inspired Scriptures look like? I get it you see the TaNaKh as inspired however what from B'rit Chadashah do you consider inspired Scriptures?
Maybe you can read James and see how he supports the Law.Out of context I'm sure. Please review the epistles of Peter and John as well. Same Gospel of Grace preached there.
I don't know Michael Rood.
But I do know there are problems with Matthew's Gospel.
For Example........
In Matthew's Gospel, there is a passage, which contains several proofs that Matthew's Gospel contains Fiction.
Matthew 28:11-15 (New American Standard Bible)
11Now while they were on their way, some of the guard came into the city and reported to the chief priests all that had happened.
12And when they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers,
13and said, "You are to say, 'His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep.'
14"And if this should come to the governor's ears, we will win him over and keep you out of trouble."
15And they took the money and did as they had been instructed; and this story was widely spread among the Jews, and is to this day.
List of Proofs.
Here is my list of proofs.
1) The Jewish Priests and Elders tell the guards to say "" 'His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep."" This is a ridiculous story to tell. Everyone knows that if the guards were asleep they would be unconscious and not know what happened. The ruling Jewish Sanhedrin was 71 members, seventy elders and the High Priest reputed to be amongst the wisest men. It is not believable that these very smart Jews would concoct such a dumb story.
2) In the Roman world, the penalty for sleeping while on guard duty was death. It is doubtful that even with a "good word" from the High Priest [Matthew 28:14] to the Roman Governor, he would have suspended the death sentence. It is not believable that the guards would have lied and said they were sleeping and subject themselves to the death penalty. Can't spend money if you're dead.
3) The Priests and Elders were very religious men. According to Jesus they were very careful about observing every point of the law, but were missing the spirit of the Law. Matthew 23:23-23-24 It is not believable that these religious men would suborn false witness and commit such a grave sin.
4)The Roman Governor would never believe such a dumb story ""'His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep." One did not get to rule an entire country by being an idiot.
5) This conspiracy to tell this lie, that the disciples stole the body, involves, the guards, the Jewish leadership, and even the office of the Roman Governor. It is not believable that a conspiracy based on such a poor lie would have held together. But that is what Matthew asks his readers to believe. "And they took the money and did as they had been instructed; and this story was widely spread among the Jews, and is to this day." Matthew 28:15 Matthew would have his readers believe the conspiracy lasted for years after the event. Not believable.
6) We have the witness of the four gospels. But only Matthew's gospel mentions a guard on the tomb. Not even a hint from the other gospels. The guard on the tomb is a vital element of the Jesus resurrection story. Had the guard existed the other gospel writers would have most assuredly mentioned it. To fail to mention such an important aspect of the story would be to miss the point of the story. Jesus was in the tomb, the guard was on duty, the tomb was now empty, so Jesus must have resurrected. The other gospel writers didn't mention the guard because this was Matthew's fiction.
Interesting. Then why should anyone on CF consider any of your accusations against an apostle of Jesus Christ?No I haven't planted any churches. Nor do I go walking in the desert at midday on a hot sunny day where one can easily get sun stroke and hallucinate all manner of things.
Here is a little article I wrote a few years ago about Paul.Out of context I'm sure. Please review the epistles of Peter and John as well. Same Gospel of Grace preached there.
To answer all your questions would require a book. You may have to wait for the book and maybe the movie.
I try to answer specifics...I can't answer general questions that require lengthy answers to answer properly.
BTW..Did I write that Paul was a false prophet? I remember calling him a murderer but I provided scriptural backing.
Can you answer if I called Paul a false prophet?
I try very diligently to back up my observations with Scripture.Interesting. Then why should anyone on CF consider any of your accusations against an apostle of Jesus Christ?
Maybe you can read James and see how he supports the Law.
But you put words in my mouth when you said I said Paul was a false prophet.Yes you stated Paul sinned against the Holy Spirit.
You also denied his road to Damascus vision was valid.
You then told us he dumped the Law.
By the above accusations you deem Paul a false prophet.
Here is a little article I wrote a few years ago about Paul.
IMO Paul was dishonest when he fabricated his Anti-Law theology.
Romans 1:17
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, " BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
Galatians 3:11
Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, " THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
Paul used the above slogan “”THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."“
as the cornerstone of his theology that man is saved by faith and not by works.
8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
Paul got this slogan from Habakkuk 2:4
Habakkuk 2:4 NAS
"Behold, as for the proud one,His soul is not right within him;But the righteous will live by his faith.
I checked several Bible versions and each one says “”HIS”” Faith, and not Faith as Paul quotes it. That’s a clue that Paul has misused this Scripture at Habakkuk 2:4
In the NIV study Bible Habakkuk 2:4 has a margin note of “’Faithfulness”
The Harper Collins Study Bible has a margin note of “”Faithfulness”’
Although the words are similar, Faith is not the same as Faithfulness.
Does the righteous man live by his faithfulness to the Law?
The Jewish Publication Society has ..” The righteous man is rewarded with life for his Fidelity at Habakkuk 2:4
It is interesting to note that in the King James Bible, “Faith” is only used twice in the Hebrew Scriptures.
Strongs # 530 is the word used for faith at Habakkuk 2:4 On only one occasion, Hab 2:4, in the KJV is it translated as Faith. The word is used 49 times and the most popular translation is “Faithfulness”
The Brown- Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon has the meaning of #530 as “firmness, steadfastness, fidelity”
IMO, Paul was dishonest in his use of ““”THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."“
I try very diligently to back up my observations with Scripture.
Did Pilate need to produce a body? If a body is missing does it mean that the corpse resurrected or does it mean someone moved the body?This is fiction? How so? Is this account so far fetched as say a man dead three days rising from the dead with a glorified Body?
Or a sea parted ?
If Pilate executed the guards and could not produce a body, would that not lend credibility to the proclamation Jesus was risen?
Shall I note the OT accounts of people making unwise and illogical decisions at the Will of God? Pharaoh comes to mind. I mean what idiot would not have let the Hebrews go after the first 3 plagues?
What does your abridged NT look like. It may help in these discussions to know.
But you put words in my mouth when you said I said Paul was a false prophet.
Yes...I have pointed out problems with Paul's testimony.
Maybe you can read James and see how he supports the Law.
Here is a little article I wrote a few years ago about Paul.
IMO Paul was dishonest when he fabricated his Anti-Law theology.
Romans 1:17
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, " BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
Galatians 3:11
Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, " THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
Paul used the above slogan “”THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."“
as the cornerstone of his theology that man is saved by faith and not by works.
8For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
Paul got this slogan from Habakkuk 2:4
Habakkuk 2:4 NAS
"Behold, as for the proud one,His soul is not right within him;But the righteous will live by his faith.
I checked several Bible versions and each one says “”HIS”” Faith, and not Faith as Paul quotes it. That’s a clue that Paul has misused this Scripture at Habakkuk 2:4
In the NIV study Bible Habakkuk 2:4 has a margin note of “’Faithfulness”
The Harper Collins Study Bible has a margin note of “”Faithfulness”’
Although the words are similar, Faith is not the same as Faithfulness.
Does the righteous man live by his faithfulness to the Law?
The Jewish Publication Society has ..” The righteous man is rewarded with life for his Fidelity at Habakkuk 2:4
It is interesting to note that in the King James Bible, “Faith” is only used twice in the Hebrew Scriptures.
Strongs # 530 is the word used for faith at Habakkuk 2:4 On only one occasion, Hab 2:4, in the KJV is it translated as Faith. The word is used 49 times and the most popular translation is “Faithfulness”
The Brown- Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon has the meaning of #530 as “firmness, steadfastness, fidelity”
IMO, Paul was dishonest in his use of ““”THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."“
Not so. Unless you discount Antioch as a false church:
Acts 13: King James Version (KJV)
13 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.
4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus.
All these after Paul was admitted to Jerusalem Church. How many letters he wrote before that? Nothing.
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