How should we read Paul?

[Righttruth]

Thats not entirely clear, but even if it was, paul was not the only elder in that church. He was only one of many men who could have performed that service.

That is your defense for Paul. Paul denied on his own!

 

[Righttruth]

Not all pharisees were against Christ either. One pharisee warned the others that they should have nothing to do with persecuting Christ, he reminded them that in time God would reveal the truth, just as He has done with all prophets before. JUst because a person is educated doesn't mean they are wrong. Pauls education later served to fight against the pharisees rejection of the Gospel, so God actually used Paul for good, after he converted him.

Paul applied hook or crook method to push his agenda. That is not how the truth should be proclaimed!

 

[Righttruth]

People twist CHrist's words as well, that doesnt mean much.

Sure. Twisting Paul's is much easy!

 

[Extraneous]

Paul claimed himself to be an apostle in return he favored his followers with the title 'saint'! People twist his verses or accept part of his verse to claim to be righteous in all respects. Paul cannot offer salvation, mind you!

Paul never said that he himself justified anyone. He actually said that Christ will judge us all, and that everyone will stand in judgment. You are the one twisting Pauls words. The use of the word saint isn't anything special. It simply refers to those who follow Christ and are justified by Christ. Paul points to Christ, just as the other apostles do as well.

Acts 9:32 Now as Peter was traveling through all those regions, he came down also to the saints who lived at Lydda.

Revelation 13:10If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 13:10 If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

 

[Righttruth]

Christ never baptized anyone, as you yourself said. You may want to watch what you say.

So Paul to be equated with Jesus then according to you? That is what Paul did when he asked people to imitate him! A great deviation!

 

[Extraneous]

Sure. Twisting Paul's is much easy!

Yes, just as you're doing.

 

[Righttruth]

What has Paul done to spark such rage...??? He was the most inspirational "apostle" in NT. Most of the things that people wouldn't know what to do about them... He's the only one who seemed to address them.

Whoever chose him... Chose the 12 apostles. May the Lord make himself Known!!!

Right, but not as an apostle.

 

[Extraneous]

So Paul to be equated with Jesus then according to you? That is what Paul did when he asked people to imitate him! A great deviation!

No, just that your definition of hypocrite is reckless. Im done talking to you. Im tired of hearing your slander and crying. Have a good day.

 

[Righttruth]

Which one can you explain? Its my opinion that paul preaches the parable of the sower pretty well. HIs whole doctrine is teaching that parable.

How can one parable become the whole doctrine?

 

[Righttruth]

That's not a contradiction. Jesus said if they dont accept you words then shake the dust of your feet and leave.

But not leaving the entire race or tribes for that matter!

 

[Righttruth]

He didnt.

He did. Please read Acts carefully. I have quoted the verses elsewhere.

 

[Righttruth]

Logical fallacy. You cant use Pauls words to support your argument, if you dont agree with them in the first place.

I accept all that complement the preaching of Jesus, the rest I reject.

 

[Righttruth]

No, just that your definition of hypocrite is reckless. Im done talking to you. Im tired of hearing your slander and crying. Have a good day.

I am not crying, rather proclaiming the truth from the house top! Goodbye!

 

[Righttruth]

Yes, just as you're doing.

I am rejecting, not twisting.

 

[Righttruth]

Paul never said that he himself justified anyone. He actually said that Christ will judge us all, and that everyone will stand in judgment. You are the one twisting Pauls words. The use of the word saint isn't anything special. It simply refers to those who follow Christ and are justified by Christ. Paul points to Christ, just as the other apostles do as well.

Acts 9:32 Now as Peter was traveling through all those regions, he came down also to the saints who lived at Lydda.

Revelation 13:10If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 13:10 If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

Protestants claim to be saints with their belief in Paul's candies!

 

[Righttruth]

Jesus said his yoke was light and his burden easy to bear.

That is with regard to the rigid rituals of the OT

 

[Extraneous]

Protestants claim to be saints with their belief in Paul's candies!

Your true faith comes to light.

 

[nomadictheist]

If you ignored the preaching of Jesus and believe in self-claim Paul, it would mean you can believe anything!

Show me one place that I have ignored the teaching of Jesus. Otherwise, stop with the ad hominem and figure out how to engage in real debate

Gospel is not one sentence. Tell who else, other than rank outsiders, called Paul an apostle?

If you believe that Paul preached only one sentence, you need to seriously study his writings.
Argumentum ex silentio is no argument at all. Paul was called by Jesus as an apostle. This is in the canon of scripture, so if you can't find direct evidence to prove that it's not true your words carry no weight.

Yes, the attitude of boasting as confessed by Paul himself played an important part in accosting the great apostle, Peter.

There is no attitude of boasting. You are inserting that into the passage. Post scripture to back up your claims or you have nothing to stand on.

Gift of interpretation was a lie Paul advocated to shut the mouth of people who were mocking at the Pentecostal phenomenon in notorious Corinth church!

Again, you will need scriptural evidence. Without that, this is nothing more than an ad hominem against Paul. Just because you have not personally experienced interpretation of tongues doesn't mean that it wasn't/isn't a spiritual gift.

Even many Pauline epistles are disputed.

People will dispute any part of the Bible they don't like. Bandwagon is not a valid argument.

You cannot blindly accept a self-proclamation of a rank outsider as scripture since it helps in speculations and to develop 'ear tickling' concepts!

I thought the apostle Paul was a false prophet... why are you practically quoting him?

The evidence for Paul's apostleship is no less than any other apostle. He was personally sent by Christ (by the way, in case you weren't aware, the Greek word "apostolos" means "one who is sent"). God performed many miracles through him. He suffered and eventually died for his faith. Everything he wrote agreed with the teachings of Jesus. His teachings were found to be supported by scripture.

All of your arguments are based on your own ideas and this book you read that defames St. Paul. You haven't cited any biblical source to back them up.

 

[Linet Kihonge]

I have never seen this kind of vehement rejection in my life!!! Sweerie, you are on your own. As for me, I will just leave the scripture as I found it. What's written, is FINAL! If you can't deal with it... Sort yourself out!

It wasn't written to PLEASE, it was written to say what it Takes to be in Heaven and to some, what it often costs? It's God inspired, not MAN!!!

So Paul will never be your contention or someone you could decide if he was worth writing the letters or not? You decide as who???

Where did you get the superiority over such issues?

We can debate their interpretations but we have no role in judging the Bible authors. "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was GOD

 

[Righttruth]

Your true faith comes to light.

My faith is in Jesus, not on Paul!