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What do you think a covenant is and how does what is included in the old covenant differ from that which is in the new covenant?
Your response here...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Matthew 4:4 says man does not live by bread alone but every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and again to him that knows to do good and does not do it to him it is sin - James 4:17. What do you think these scriptures are saying and does your answer then mean that breaking anyone of the 10 is not sin?
And this addresses anything in the post you are responding to how exactly? It doesn'tObservance of the New Moons is not outlined in the 10, nor is the prohibition of homosexuality. Again, does it stop at the 10; or might there be other possible transgressions?
Your response here...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ What do you think a covenant is and how does what is included in the old covenant differ from that which is in the new covenant?
Agreed, this doesn't answer my question to you in the post you are quoting from above.This doesn't answer my question.
So we are talking about the same thing what argument of mine would that be that you believe I have not explained?
Agreed, this doesn't answer my question to you in the post you are quoting from above.
DITTO, see post # 182; 196; 197; 199; 202; 203. While your post was directly answered in post # 187.See post 177. It's a simple question, worthy of a definitive answer.
There was no dodging you did not answer the question in the post you were quoting from (see post # 203).Nice dodge.
DITTO, see post # 182; 196; 197; 199; 202; 203. While your post was directly answered in post # 187.
There was no dodging you did not answer the question in the post you were quoting from (see post 203).
Not really. Your post was directly answered in post # 187. The other posts were asking for clarification your side as to what was previously posted in regards to God's Word showing that the Sabbath is a day of worship that you simply chose to ignore. Your accusations of inconsistent thoughts and beliefs (cognitive dissonance), I believe are your side not mine which is why I have provided scripture and asked you questions that you refuse to enter into a two-way discussion with me based on the scriptures. So I guess we will agree to disagree on your claims here.I saw those already. It started back on 177; and goes round, and round, and round. This cognitive dissonance of your argument has been exposed. My work here is done. Thanks for playing.
Questions are not answers to questions. I started the questioning; and I have not been provided with any satisfactory answers.
It's OK. I still had fun.
Discussion and questions go two ways not one way. All the questions asked of you were relevant to the discussion. Just because you do not like an answer does not mean the answer provided was not truthful or relevant to the discussion.
Then provide answers and not questions or do both and enter into a two way friendly discussion based on the scriptures. Love is a fruit of the Spirit of God and without it we are nothing..Questions are not answers to questions. I started the questioning; and I have not been provided with any satisfactory answers. It's OK. I still had fun.
I respectfully disagree. For me I just see in your post here more empty words and accusations. Talk specifics and detail please and lets' examine your claims in detail in a friendly discussion or is this something you would rather us not investigate? Perhaps you can start of by showing why you believe that post # 187 does not directly answer your question as I believe it does. If you enter in to a friendly two way discussion HARK! you might get better answers to your questions and if there is not something I have understood in the question you have asked you should be kind enough to provide clarification.It was not my intent to have a discussion. I made a simple inquiry; but that's OK. If I had put forth such a contradictory presentation; I might have been tempted to change the subject too. However, I would have more likely just abstained from responding to the question, or thanked the person who posed the question, for helping me to see the truth more clearly.
Not really. Your post was directly answered in post # 187.
No it wasn't. You might want to go back and reread post 177.
A wise man once told me that it is unwise to answer a question, until one understands the question.
Here is the question:
"Well if the scripture that you presented is passe; then how does it support your argument?"
Now if you say that the verses that you cited, are no longer applicable; then how on earth can you simultaneously make an argument that they are applicable.
To which you responded for the first time with and off topic response to the sabbath as a day of "worship" with...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Please see post # 161 linked. Arguments in silence are not an argument to break God's law especially when the scriptures teach that God commands us elsewhere to worship him on the Sabbath (Ezekiel 46:1-3 and Isaiah 66:22-23). As posted earlier we cleared this subject up in regards to worshiping God on the Sabbath, some time ago by looking at the scriptures and defining what it means to worship God from the scriptures in post # 70 linked and post # 81 linked.
We worship God by believing and following what Gods Word says and God tells us to worship him on the Sabbath in Ezekiel 46:1-3 and Isaiah 66:22-23. We should not base our arguments on things that a silent in the scriptures. What we do know is that Gods' people kept the Sabbath and God tells us that by keeping the Sabbath we worship him. That is all we need to know isn't it?
How does what you are suggesting from something not recorded in one section of the bible but directly recorded in other sections of the bible effect the scriptures that are recorded in regards to God telling us to worship Him on the Sabbath? - It doesn't. I am not sure why you cannot see this so we will agree to disagree unless you want to discuss my posts and questions to which you agreed to earlier.
I responded with as well as asking you for clarification in regards to the Sabbath as a day of worship that we were previously discussing...Both of these passages are prophetic, and speak of future times. Should we live in the shadow of things to come? Should we do his will on earth, as it is in heaven?
Your response was to not answer anything that was asked of you while seeking to change the topic and subject matter away from Sabbath worship to new moons here....Isaiah 66:22-23 is talking about Sabbath worship in the new earth. Ezekiel 46:1-3 applies worship to the Sabbath now not in the future. That does not mean that all of Ezekiel 46 does not have dual future applications (prophetic) prior to the second coming. Just so I understand what your saying if you do not mind me asking, is your view Gods Word does not teach we are to worship God on the Sabbath HARK!? I do not believe God's 4th commandment is a "shadow" of anything because it points backwards to the finished work of creation (Exodus 20:8-11) before there was any sin or laws (Genesis 2:1-3), not forward to things to come *Colossians 2:17.
To which was responded to in a friendly manner here...Both of those passages also mention observance of YHWH's New Moons. Do you also regard YHWH's New Moons, along with His Sabbaths?
You response was to further avoid my original question to you by further seeking to change the discussion subject matter here...Not in the new covenant. According to the scriptures, the new moons are for times and seasons *Genesis 1:14-19. In the old covenant the new moons were used to determine the times and the seasons for the timing of the annual "shadow" Feast days and were linked to the old covenant "shadow laws" for remission of sins which were shadows of things to come that were pointing to and continued in Christ. Was there a reason you did not answer my questions to you in the post you are quoting from? Anyhow no need. You do not have to if you do not want to.
Now after pressing you a few more time in relation to my earlier questions in regards to God's Sabbath as a day of worship and asking for your input which was the context of the conversation you commented on I decided to directly answer your post here...HARK! said: ↑ Well if the scripture that you presented is passe; then how does it support your argument?
So perhaps you can tell me how it is not you that is not answering my questions when I was the one who first asked you my questions that were in regards to the original conversation on the Sabbath being a day of worship, and how it is not you who was seeking to change the subject matter of the conversation from the Sabbath as a day of worship to new moons, and how I did not directly answer your question that was off topic changing the topic of the discussion I was having on the Sabbath as a day of worship with someone else?None of the questions asked of you that you refuse to answer were suppose to answer your question. I am not answering anymore of your off topic questions HARK! if you refuse to answer mine. I already posted to you that God's 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath of God's 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is in the new covenant is not passe because it is one of God's 10 commandments that gives us the knowledge of good and evil *Romans 3:4. The new moon is not one of God's 10 commandments. It is for determining times and seasons to determine the starting times of the annual "shadow Feasts". We still observe the new moons for times and seasons today but we no longer provide animal sacrifices and sin offerings all of which are the shadows of things to come that pointed to and are fulfilled and continued in Christ in the new covenant. This is a pretty straight forward answer to your question HARK!
Here let me answer your question directly again. I never said that those scriptures are no longer applicable. Perhaps you have a misunderstanding. The Sabbath is not a "shadow law". It is Gods' eternal law written with the finger of God on tables of stone that give us the knowledge of what sin is in the new covenant *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7. The new moon is still used for times and seasons but not for animal sacrifice that were shadows of things to come under Gods' new covenant promise that pointed to Jesus and is continued in him based on better promises *see Hebrews 7:1-25: Hebrews 8:1-13.Now if you say that the verses that you cited, are no longer applicable; then how on earth can you simultaneously make an argument that they are applicable?
God defined the Sabbath to be on the seventh day, not the first day. Jesus as our example went to the Temples on the seventh day Sabbath as well.We should honor the sabbath by going to Church every sunday.
Hi HARK!You haven't wasted my time. I enjoyed exposing your argument that relies on scripture, which mandates observance of YHWH's New Moon.
Good times!
Esteem to our heavenly Father.
Is the definition of new moon here what you disagree with? Just trying to understand the argument God bless
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