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Would you mind explaining why dinosaur bones never appear with human bones in sedimentary layers?Floodnut said:It doesn't name any of the animals that were on the Ark, duh. It only gives a general description: all air breathing land animals in whose nostrils is the breath of life. Dinosaurs were on the Ark, as were the ancestors of kangaroos. Why don't you give me the verse that says they were not on the ark?
Floodnut said:just out of curiousity, how many of the pro-evolution posters here affirm that Jesus is God?
Floodnut said:They are not Bible-believers at the point where they believe in evolution.
- Evidence supports a 4.5 billion year old Earth
- Evidence supports that life has existed for nearly 3 or 4 billion years of that time span
- Evidence supports much diversity in life - including millions of species which no longer exist today
- Evidence supports a gradual transition from one form into another over gradual periods of time (i.e. we never see Dinosaurs in the middle of the pre-cambrian layers, or trilobite fossils in the carboniferous layers).
- Independent dating sources give us the ages of fossils and rock layers and ages do correlate with other similar layers in other places of the Earth.
- There is ample evidence that there are plate tectonics, and ample evidence that some land masses which are now two or more continents were once one contienent (South America and Africa have similar coastlines, are separated by a mid ocean ridge and have similar geologic columns and fossils past a certain point) and ample evidence that climate has had many shifts (many ice ages, many interglacial periods, many warm spells too)
Karl - Liberal Backslider said:So for you, Bible believing actually means "Believe that the Bible means what I think it means".
I believe Genesis 1. I do not believe it teaches the world was made in six days. I think that's a category error. Don't presume to tell me what I do and don't believe.
Numenor said:Jesus is God. Any happier?
No happier apparently. I believe in the infallability of scripture, what I object to is you equivocating your own interpretation of scripture with the infallible Word of God. To believe your own interpretation (and it is an interpretation) is infallible is arrogance God will not look kindly upon.
Floodnut said:The arrogance is for you to believe the evolutionary interpretations of scientific evidences above the plain and simple sense of Scirpture. Then it further arrogance for you to attempt to project what you think God will look kindly upon.
The earth is about 6000 years old.
Floodnut said:Yes, it is a matter of Two religions. It is evolution which makes the bizarre claims, but the faith continues. We still have yet to see a single case of transition from one speicies to another (of course you will insert your wonderful web links here), nor have we seen the mechanism demonstrated in a controlled experiment. The earth is 6000 years old. All present species on the Earth are descendents of the pairs that were on the Ark of Noah that Jesus treated as Literal.
This is not suprising as most Christians both currently and historically believe that God intended Genesis for a different purpose than a literal history.Floodnut said:You don't believe in the Bible. You are a liberal backslider. You don't actually believe that the Writer of Genesis meant anything other than six normal days. There, that is what you believe and don't believe.
as an aside, I'm jsut curious how many of each animal was on the ark.Floodnut said:It doesn't name any of the animals that were on the Ark, duh. It only gives a general description: all air breathing land animals in whose nostrils is the breath of life. Dinosaurs were on the Ark, as were the ancestors of kangaroos. Why don't you give me the verse that says they were not on the ark?
Floodnut said:You may assert that I am wrong, or incorrect. But you are wrong to assert that I am lying because you believe that my statement is "blatantly false." When you call creationists liars you are being judgmental. I think it may be that you are the one who is a liar, but then without the truth of God's Word to set moral absolutes you have no reason to see lying as wrong.
Floodnut said:The earth is about 6000 years old.
Floodnut said:The arrogance is for you to believe the evolutionary interpretations of scientific evidences above the plain and simple sense of Scirpture.
Then it further arrogance for you to attempt to project what you think God will look kindly upon.
Floodnut said:You don't believe in the Bible.
You are a liberal backslider.
You don't actually believe that the Writer of Genesis meant anything other than six normal days.
There, that is what you believe and don't believe.
Karl - Liberal Backslider said:Wrong. I don't believe in your interpretation of it.
I refer the hon. gent. to the answer I gave A4C the other day about the origin of my screen name.
Writer? This was not originally a written document; it's oral history. I don't even start to presume to know exactly how all the people who passed it down the generations viewed it, and don't frankly much care to. There was no "Writer of Genesis". There were keepers of oral tradition, redactors, priests, theologians, editors - loads of people.
And I told you to stop trying to tell me what I do and don't believe, but you prefer to carry on in your arrogance doing so.
GodsSamus said:I have a question. If God used Evolution, how can sin and death be related? I challenge ANY gap-theorists or theistic evolutionists to tell me this..
Are you going to answer all the posts that ahve been directed at you on this thread first? Once again, you're here and ignoring all the posts that disagree with your outlook on the world, despite the fact that you asked people to show you which of your "earth age" claims were false and they started doing just that.GodsSamus said:I have a question. If God used Evolution, how can sin and death be related? I challenge ANY gap-theorists or theistic evolutionists to tell me this..
Floodnut said:.Oh, so this poster is the judge and jury on relevancy. Did the judge pronounce on the relevancy of prior posts alleging that I was lying, or the allegations that Creationists are liars. To say creationists are liar is relevant according to this judge, but it is a 9.6 on the irrelevancy scale to point out the lack of moral basis for evolutionists who have often been caught in lies.Quote:
God denying atheists and promotors of evolution have no prohibition against lying so they can make up falsehoods like this with no moral compunction
If I were not a believer? What is moral and immoral to a garden slug?
Praxiteles said:I beg your pardon?
Floodnut said:Yes, it is a matter of Two religions. It is evolution which makes the bizarre claims, but the faith continues. We still have yet to see a single case of transition from one speicies to another (of course you will insert your wonderful web links here), nor have we seen the mechanism demonstrated in a controlled experiment.
The earth is 6000 years old. All present species on the Earth are descendents of the pairs that were on the Ark of Noah that Jesus treated as Literal.
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