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How old is the Earth?

TimRout

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Fallible dating assumptions? PROVE IT!

I get it now....man is so far gone that all scientific knowledge is bullgarbage eh?
IT's ok if it doesn't have anything to do with what the bible states hyper-literally eh? It's all about man's fallibility when it comes to anything right?
I don't buy it.
You know, I'll never forget grade two. It was 1977 and it was the first time anyone ever talked to me seriously about Earth history. The teacher showed us pictures of dinosaurs and ancient birds and all sorts of fish-like creatures long since extinct. She told us the Earth was a little more than two billion years old, and I thought "WOW! That's really really old."

Yet today, scientific theory suggests the Earth is some 4.5 billion years old. As time goes on, scientific estimates need to be adjusted to reflect the most current data. They require periodic adjustment and correction. Things that are prone to correction over time, are by definition fallible.

Consequently, I stand with our brother in asserting that biblical theology must always be based on the text of God's infallible Word alone, and never on the fluctuating assessments of secular science. Even if one is not an evolutionist, these long dates are being asserted by those who do, in fact, have an evolutionary bone to pick. Good theology is based on the Scriptures alone, and if one rejects all hermeneutic sources except the Scriptures, then one has little reason to theorize about billions of years.
 
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:) It makes a lot more sense just to believe that God told Moses the truth and Moses wrote down what God told him and God has preserved that record today in our bibles.

The bible is the most scrutinized book on earth and it has proven itself true everytime it has been tested by everyone who has tested it. The skeptics have proven it is by far the most reliable ancient writing we have by trying to disprove it.
 
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Moses wrote about his own death?

He probably paid scribes to write it.

God Bless!
Uh, I see the difficulty.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar, Allen, with the biblical propensity for attributing authorship to the chief prophet as opposed to all writers exhaustively? Thus the Jews referred to the pentateuch as the "Law of Moses" even though Joshua was likely involved in editing some portions. The passage of which you speak was one such parenthetical insertion, as is Number 12:3. An easy mistake to make; don't let it get you down. These things will become clearer as you study the Scriptures in greater depth. Good observation though.

Blessings. :)
 
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Fallible dating assumptions? PROVE IT!

I get it now....man is so far gone that all scientific knowledge is bullgarbage eh?
IT's ok if it doesn't have anything to do with what the bible states hyper-literally eh? It's all about man's fallibility when it comes to anything right?
I don't buy it.

Here is a chapter out of a book that talks about radiometric dating that I suggest you read.

Some interesting research recently done has shown measurable carbon-14 still in diamonds which should be impossible. That is something else to consider.
 
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It's all about man's fallibility when it comes to anything right?
I don't buy it.

When you find some perfect people, or find perfect things that people have created, instituted, maintained, built, experimented with, or in any way subjugated to mankind apart from God, mind you it needs to be perfect, please show me for I have yet to see anything that would remotely qualify.

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Uh, I see the difficulty.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar, Allen, with the biblical propensity for attributing authorship to the chief prophet as opposed to all writers exhaustively? Thus the Jews referred to the pentateuch as the "Law of Moses" even though Joshua was likely involved in editing some portions. The passage of which you speak was one such parenthetical insertion, as is Number 12:3. An easy mistake to make; don't let it get you down. These things will become clearer as you study the Scriptures in greater depth. Good observation though.

Blessings. :)

Thanks Tim!

God Bless You!
 
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I'm watching a show called Decoding the Past on the History channel right now...see my other thread.
Apparently archaeologists have found ancient FIGS(fossilized) that are dated at being 11 thousand years old. Interesting. Just interesting.
 
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Uh. So your source of authority is secular science and not the inerrant Word of God. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

:thumbsup:

I used to debate this, also. It's pointless. It does no service to God. Good to hear I'm not alone on this, though.

I think that if someone really wants to know how old the earth is, they should prayerfully go to The Creator and ask Him. He has revealed to us what He wants us to know; and to make a definitive or absolute statement about what The Creator did and when He did it without the statement being supported by His Word is nothing more than surpassing the revealed will of God.
I can also say that my beliefs are not my own.

God Bless
 
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God is sovereign.
I believe "secular science" is a gift from God almighty.
It's up to us, the human race, to use it for righteousness. We don't always do.
In this case, I don't see it being used for unrighteousness...it's the age of the planet that is being discussed.
In this case science does not trump scripture sorry I don't see it. I see the only relation of what is one of man's want and need to rectify something that is not available to us except by 2 sources at this time: science and religion. Notice I used religion and not faith. They don't rectify each other, but also do not oppose each other either. I do believe in essence the age of the earth can be quantified with science and faith. I don't believe God opposes this either...otherwise, he's be a legalistic God for certain IMHO.




Thanks for listening.
 
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