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Can u name some major differences between chimps now and millions of years ago?
Six inches between two dots on a piece of paper?

A tooth?

Something that looks like a chimp from the past, so it must be a chimp from the past?
 
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Common descent is part of the evidence for the how. You don't seem to grasp this very, very simple concept.

No it's not. It's the result of the HOW, the process, it's not the HOW, the process itself. You're still, after many posts now, attempting to not address the issue of evidence for the HOW, the process which actually produced pine trees and humans from an alleged single life form (unknown) of long ago.

The evidence was provided for you.

Where? When? Post number. Reference. Quote it. Simply saying "the evidence was provided for you" is nothing more than empty words without support for the claim.


Where is it? You've offered nothing concerning the HOW, the process. You constantly attempt to change the issue to common descent, but that's not the issue.

Address the evidence that was provided to you.

None has been provided.


You've not offered a single bit of evidence for the HOW, the process, based on the scientific method. Nothing. Zero.
 
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If you think common descent addresses the HOW, the process which produced pine trees and humans from an alleged single life form (unknown) of long ago, you need to actually point out how common descent offers evidence. All common descent does is make the claim that life forms are related, it doesn't begin to address HOW, the process, whereby those life forms were produced from previous life forms which ended up producing both pine trees and humans.

Stop trying to change the issue and actually address it....with evidence.
 
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Wow! Is this how Biblical literalists really think?
I would call this post an expose` on Creationist thinking.

So, are all scientists, past and present, liars involved in the massive conspiracy to thwart God's plan for mankind, or is it just the scientists since Galileo?
 
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"Magic" is simply mocking a particular view and isn't a serious question.
They have their own way of talking that, in the end, just confuses them more.

What we call "the miracle of creation," they refer to as "magic."

But then, they have to.

Consider these two questions:
  1. Are you saying God created the earth by magic?
  2. Are you saying God created the earth by a miracle?
The first question puts the weight on the questionee to explain further what is meant.
The second question puts the weight on the questioner to understand what it is he is asking.
 
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So, are all scientists, past and present, liars involved in the massive conspiracy to thwart God's plan for mankind, or is it just the scientists since Galileo?
Not all scientists are.

I think there are some, named "Steve," who aren't.

And more appropriately, it is to sterilize the Scriptures, than to "thwart God's plan."

And no -- not since Galileo -- since the inception of the scientific method.

One Bible theologian puts the culmination point at Isaac Newton.

I disagree.

I put the culmination point at the scientific method -- Francis Bacon.
 
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That is because biologists and paleontologists do not accept your unevidenced claim that all those fossils are different breeds of the same species. Or is it that you have not presented your claim to anyone in the scientific community? If your claim is so rock solid, why aren't you submitting your research to an academic publication for review?
An Species: individual belonging to a group of organisms (or the entire group itself) having common characteristics and (usually) are capable of mating with one another to produce fertile offspring. Failing that (for example the Liger) It has to be ecologically and recognisably the same.
 
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Again you have succeeded in calling all scientists liars involved in a world-wide conspiracy to maintain the current evolution mindset and thus thwart God's plan for mankind.
 
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Sure I do. I've even tried to make it as simple as possible for you to understand. A visual usually helps one understand...I can post it again if you wish.
You have the visual and you still don't know what an observation is. We couldn't even get past step 1 because you think that a hypothesis is an observation.
Do you realize that a fossil doesn't offer the HOW, the process, claimed by Darwinist evolution which can be subjected to the scientific method to see if it's valid or not?
Do you realize that the scientific method can be used to research more than just the HOW question?
 
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Again you have succeeded in calling all scientists liars involved in a world-wide conspiracy to maintain the current evolution mindset and thus thwart God's plan for mankind.
If that's what you got from my post, then I guess that's what you got from my post.

But just like you guys will refuse to take the Bible in context, you'll refuse to take me in context as well.

After all, if you're willing to set general relativity aside to stoop to saying the Bible teaches geocentrism, it's hard telling how far scientists will go to sterilize the rest of It.
 
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You have the visual and you still don't know what an observation is. We couldn't even get past step 1 because you think that a hypothesis is an observation.

No, I think observation is part of the scientific method.

Do you realize that the scientific method can be used to research more than just the HOW question?

Do you realize the HOW/process is what I've not gotten any evidence for, based on the scientific method?
 
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Do you realize that the scientific method can be used to research more than just the HOW question?
The job of a scientist, in my opinion, is to observe & manipulate God's creation in such a way as to bring glory to God and benefit mankind.

Anything else is the Devil's work.

Again, in my opinion.
 
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You're the one who claimed that all the laws of science were put in place to support the lies that scientists foist upon the general populace. That means the laws of physics, doesn't it? So, that takes us back to Galileo at least....probably further.
 
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