How many of you creationists...

[loveiseverywhere]

I'll tell you what --- you keep calling it that --- and I'll keep it in mind later when you want me to believe we occupy a specific place on the Taxonomy Tree --- how's that?

You want pinpoint accuracy from us when it comes to science, don't you?

But when the shoe is on the other foot, you can't tell a snake from a dragon, can you?

I said it before, and I'll say it again: we're not Homo sapiens.

And if you think we are --- re-read your own posts slowly.

 

[OldStyleBlues]

I'm posting here for a couple reasons. Downtime at work and I've always been fasinated by the psychology of people who follow fundamentalist religious beliefs and dogma. I find it interesting how and why someone believes in a 6000 year old earth, Global floods, talking reptiles, Man and dinosaurs strolling together, etc. From this side of the coin it really is bizzare. However I do support the right for someone to believe in anything they want. Heck , no one ever ever better try n' convince me that Elvis is dead.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

@AVET

Let me ask you this- How does ANY of this rhetoric strengthen your relationship to Him on a daily basis?

The bottom line is this- we are saved through Faith in Christ- not by belief in Genesis as the "literal" creation account.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (New International Version)

8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

wow i cant believe another resurrection thread of course its from our local PtrOEll Avet.

wow so many pages....

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm posting here for a couple reasons. Downtime at work and I've always been fasinated by the psychology of people who follow fundamentalist religious beliefs and dogma. I find it interesting how and why someone believes in a 6000 year old earth, Global floods, talking reptiles, Man and dinosaurs strolling together, etc. From this side of the coin it really is bizzare. However I do support the right for someone to believe in anything they want. Heck , no one ever ever better try n' convince me that Elvis is dead.

That's nice --- but you guys are perfect examples of why someone shouldn't try and understand why someone believes in something, without first understanding that something first yourself.

That would be like me trying to understand why anyone could become a doctor w/o having ever understood medicine.

I'll admit, at first I couldn't understand why anyone would want to become an evolutionist --- and I know nothing about evolution --- but I don't sit here and ask question after question about evolution, just so I can make jokes at the answers.

You're giving "downtime at work" a bad name.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I don't think you should worry about what OldStyle is doing at work.

 

[AV1611VET]

@AVET

Let me ask you this- How does ANY of this rhetoric strengthen your relationship to Him on a daily basis?

We call it "obedience" --- specifically to the Great Commission.

I don't see you in here telling these guys about Jesus Christ --- and frankly, whey they leave people like you, Cabal, and Assyrian alone and go after people like me, Dad, JohnR7, Supersport, Carico, MikeMck, Mark Kennedy, Inan3, and others --- it speaks volumes to me.

Ask an atheist to name a Christian @ Christianforums.com, and you'll probably get one of us mentioned --- not the others.

And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

I know that's hard preaching, and I mean no disrespect to my brothers and sisters in Christ here (or anyone), but c'mon --- get in the program.

We're in the midst of a spiritual warfare and we need people on the front lines.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't think you should worry about what OldStyle is doing at work.

Believe me --- I'm not --- I didn't even know he is at work --- or care.

It's none of my business.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

We call it "obedience" --- specifically to the Great Commission.

I don't see you in here telling these guys about Jesus Christ --- and frankly, whey they leave people like you, Cabal, and Assyrian alone and go after people like me, Dad, JohnR7, Supersport, Carico, MikeMck, Mark Kennedy, Inan3, and others --- it speaks volumes to me.

Ask an atheist to name a Christian @ Christianforums.com, and you'll probably get one of us mentioned --- not the others.I know that's hard preaching, and I mean no disrespect to my brothers and sisters in Christ here (or anyone), but c'mon --- get in the program.

We're in the midst of a spiritual warfare and we need people on the front lines.

Give me a break. You have no idea what my life has been like as far as fighting spiritual warfare. Let's start with physical, emotional and sexual abuse at the age of 9. Then let's move onto a battle with addiction that I overcame through Christ. Follow that to the fact that I was an atheist for a long while and OBEYED the call of Christ to come into my life.

You know nothing of the battles I face and the work I do in my church.

I've brought several people to Christ and it's wasn't by forcing my opinion down their throat. It's by leading by example.

That being said, they didn't ALWAYS leave me alone on here. Why don't you do some research back to when I first joined.

The reason people attack you is because you don't make ANY sense. In addition, you don't answer the hard questions...you merely change the subject or go off on a tangent.

The way you formulate your responses smacks of some sort of psychological disturbance. I don't mean that in a mean spirited way...I'm just making an observation.

 

[OldStyleBlues]

I respect others points of view(regardless how bizarre) not to mention if everyone agreed on everything all the time and believed in the same exact things then they'd be some pretty boring and homogenized forums. It's funny, a few of the posters here remind me of some of the people who post at the Flat Earth Society's forum. You guys wouldn't be leading double lives all incognito like would ya"?

 

[OldStyleBlues]

I've brought several people to Christ and it's not by forcing my opinion down their throat. It's by leading by example.

This is a position that I respect. Whatever works for you.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's funny, a few of the posters here remind me of some of the people who post at the Flat Earth Society's forum. You guys wouldn't be leading double lives all incognito like would ya"?

I'll bet you can even name them by name, can't you?

(Please don't, though.)

 

[AV1611VET]

I've brought several people to Christ and it's wasn't by forcing my opinion down their throat.

Is that what I'm doing?

"Forcing my opinion down peoples' throats?"

Or am I answering questions to the best of my ability?

I not only have to fight atheists here, I find myself fighting against my own brothers and sisters in Christ.

It's like Acts 15 all over again.

And that's a sin.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

Is that what I'm doing?

"Forcing my opinion down peoples' throats?"

Or am I answering questions to the best of my ability?

I not only have to fight atheists here, I find myself fighting against my own brothers and sisters in Christ.

It's like Acts 15 all over again.

And that's a sin.

That's your problem....you are fighting with people instead of trying to understand them. You want so badly for them to understand you when it is better to seek to understand than to be understood.

You need to start practicing acceptance of others and lead them gently.

(Not to mention that divisivness is a tool of the enemy)

 

[OldStyleBlues]

If one is to believe in a 6000 year old earth, talking snakes and pet dinosaurs then a flat earth is just as valid.

 

[Hespera]

Give me a break. You have no idea what my life has been like as far as fighting spiritual warfare. Let's start with physical, emotional and sexual abuse at the age of 9. Then let's move onto a battle with addiction that I overcame through Christ. Follow that to the fact that I was an atheist for a long while and OBEYED the call of Christ to come into my life.

You know nothing of the battles I face and the work I do in my church.

I've brought several people to Christ and it's not by forcing my opinion down their throat. It's by leading by example.

That being said, they didn't ALWAYS leave me alone on here. Why don't you do some research back to when I first joined.

The reason people attack you is because you don't make ANY sense.

Commenting on the spiritual warriors and the results of their efforts:

I dont come here with a Christian background, other than some sunday school in elementary, in Hong Kong. I just took it in as stories, didnt much think about whether it was something to believe in, tho clearly the teachers did.

In college here, I have met some Christians that I really like and admire.
Their example makes me feel sometimes that i would like to be like them, to be part of a group like that.

Naming names is not appropriate here I guess, but there are a couple of Christians here who seem like people I'd like to know as friends, and perhaps attend church with them. One of them is in England, I think she knows who she is.

There is also a corps of fundamentalist Christains here whose view of those who dont share their "faith" is somethingi I find repulsive. I find their views on religion of the world to be absurd and unintelligent in the extreme. The more I see of their weird ideas, the more i see them as described. That is interpreted as being my fault because I "hate" Christians.

I would no more want to be part of Christianity as thus presented than I would want .. well never mind.

Their chances of approaching me as a potential convert on either an emotional, intellectual or any other level, is way less than zero. If therte is a cause, they are doing it far more harm than good. Nice try guys, whatever it is you are (really) trying to do.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's your problem....you are fighting with people instead of trying to understand them. You want so badly for them to understand you when it is better to seek to understand than to be understood.

You need to start practicing acceptance of others and lead them gently.

(Not to mention that divisivness is a tool of the enemy)

And I've got more than 1200 times your post count --- so you have no idea what I've done here in the past.

On second thought, check out my FRIEND'S LIST.

Were you here when two people (one an atheist) joined this forum, claiming me as their sponsor?

(I didn't know them from Adam, and that was back when your sponsorship would show up as an icon.)

I also happen to have a few more reps than you do --- and many of them have come from atheists and agnostics.

So please don't try and convince me I'm doing more harm than good.

We all have our individual styles.

All I have to do is show up in a thread and say something, and the next thing you know, I've "hijacked" it.

Can you do that?

We "freaks in a freak show", as someone once called me, are the ones getting the real attention around here.

Get in the program --- the Bible says you're a "peculiar person" --- act like it.

 

[AV1611VET]

If one is to believe in a 6000 year old earth, talking snakes and pet dinosaurs then a flat earth is just as valid.

Really?

 

[OldStyleBlues]

I toyed with the idea of joining some sect of Christianity however I just couldn't bring myself to join a group who's symbol is a guy nailed to two pieces of wood.

 

[Cabal]

I'll admit, at first I couldn't understand why anyone would want to become an evolutionist --- and I know nothing about evolution --- but I don't sit here and ask question after question about evolution, just so I can make jokes at the answers.

No, but you usually end up doing that anyway.

Don't forget that charming post you made recently about getting your jollies by ridiculing science.

You may not crack jokes but don't act like you don't get your kicks somehow.

We call it "obedience" --- specifically to the Great Commission.

I don't see you in here telling these guys about Jesus Christ --- and frankly, whey they leave people like you, Cabal, and Assyrian alone and go after people like me, Dad, JohnR7, Supersport, Carico, MikeMck, Mark Kennedy, Inan3, and others --- it speaks volumes to me.

They're all equally wrong and as wilfully and arrogantly ignorant to boot?

And I don't really see you talking about much other than your twisted views of science either.

Frankly, AV, if everyone of a large group were telling me I was wrong and my approaches were logically flawed, I'd at least pause for a second. But no, with you lot you NEVER think that you could be the one at fault - it's always blame the target, or worse, blame God.

Ask an atheist to name a Christian @ Christianforums.com, and you'll probably get one of us mentioned --- not the others. I know that's hard preaching, and I mean no disrespect to my brothers and sisters in Christ here (or anyone), but c'mon --- get in the program.

Ah, the sons of Sceva canard. I'd like to remind the last two times you Biblically insulted me (first with this, and then by calling me Herod) you had to publically retract. Have you learned nothing?

You'll find that many of the atheists here will tell newcomers about the Christian theistic evolutionists among us. My name is usually mentioned. So you'd be wrong.

And btw, AV, I don't rate praise from evil spirits as high praise. But given that your standards of being right is having everyone tell you you're wrong, I'm not surprised your standards are a little screwed up.

We're in the midst of a spiritual warfare and we need people on the front lines.

We are in spiritual warfare, AV, and we ARE on the front lines. The battle lines are just a little different than you might expect.

I not only have to fight atheists here, I find myself fighting against my own brothers and sisters in Christ.

It's like Acts 15 all over again.

And that's a sin.

Aw, it's ok, AV, we forgive you.

Look at the outcome of Acts 15, btw - more churches founded. Not really a bad thing, huh?

But again, Acts 15 is symptomatic of the typical Christian failing - not being able to disagree without MAAAAJOR drama. The reason I'm so militant about what I believe is because of the number of times CREATIONISTS have told me that I'm not Christian. I have yet to see that kind of crap coming from the evolutionist side.

The creationist side needs to get its act together, and sharpish.