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And yet, He’s still in control.In this case it worked for the betterment of the Patriarchs.
In many cases, sin lead to death (Romans 6:23) which is not what He wants:
Ezekiel 18:30 “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!
Do you see the Samaritan woman mentioned in the OP?Dah'veed said:
As a matter of fact, Jesus went there Himself. "Whoever drinks from the water I give will never thirst."
The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When He comes, he will explain everything to us.”
Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am He.” John 4:22-26
And where do you think the Samaritan woman was from?
But one of them, seeing that he was healed, quickly bowed at Jesus’ feet and thanked Him. (The man was a Samaritan.) Luke 17:15-16
Good Day, JohnIn this case it worked for the betterment of the Patriarchs.
In many cases, sin lead to death (Romans 6:23) which is not what He wants:
Ezekiel 18:30 “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!
If you had included the account of the Samaritans in the opening post and argued that salvation was not afforded at the same time,Do you see the Samaritan woman mentioned in the OP?
But I didn’t.If you had included the account of the Samaritans in the opening post and argued that salvation was not afforded at the same time,
then you would seem confused or deceptive.
I can’t figure out how to explain this. The OP is specific. I even reposted it for you. Why are you not wanting to engage with what the topic is?Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, ....
So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days.
And because of his words many more became believers.
They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves,
and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.” John 14:39-42
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We have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, John 6:69
I understand the argument. I don't know if I want to engage in it. Feels a bit like this is a neverending discussion.It made more sense last night.So let’s try this.
In John 10, the sheep are given to Him by His Father. It’s a know group. They don’t become sheep, and then are given. They are already sheep, otherwise they would be goats given to Christ.
The picture is that God gives His Son a flock of sheep to care for. Christ loves His Father and the sheep, and lays His life down for the sheep. It’s the sheep that hear His voice and follow. It’s not the goats that hear His voice, decide to follow, and somewhere turn into sheep.
Even in the parable of the sheep and goats, if you read it carefully, they aren’t sheep or goats based on what they do. They act the way they do because they are sheep or goats.
God's purposeful intention was to deliver the message and give the responsiblity to Abimelech to make the right decision.Good Day, Zoidar
So God's means (effective and purposeful) was to come to Abimelech by a dream....
If God's purpose in coming (in a dream) was to stop sinning, could God fail to bring about the purposeful intention out come he desired?
Thus making his means ineffective?
in Him,
Bill
That scripture says nothing about God setting anyone's predetermined day of death.Good Day, John
But he numbers the days of His creation, we can not escape the determined day of our death... For God the death of His Saints is Precious.
Ps 116: 15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
In Him,
Bill
That means something different for different people. For me it means that although God gives man a free will, we can look to Him to fulfill His word.And yet, He’s still in control.
Once you agree, it will end.I understand the argument. I don't know if I want to engage in it. Feels a bit like this is a neverending discussion.
Of course He does. See Genesis 50:20.That means something different for different people. For me it means that although God gives man a free will, we can look to Him to fulfill His word.
For Calvin it means that God has his hand in everything and determines every event that ever occurs.
“Creatures are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 3)“…it is vain to debate about prescience, which it is clear that all events take place by his sovereign appointment.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6)
That means something different for different people. For me it means that although God gives man a free will, we can look to Him to fulfill His word.
For Calvin it means that God has his hand in everything and determines every event that ever occurs.
Please expand upon your sentence as I don't know what you are talking about: "Of course He does." Write complete thoughts.Of course He does. See Genesis 50:20.
And the cross.
I will, once you stop with the rudeness.Please expand upon your sentence as I don't know what you are talking about: "Of course He does." Write complete thoughts.
It's specific that He acts on behalf of the believing Jews and the Gentiles also.But I didn’t.
I can’t figure out how to explain this. The OP is specific. I even reposted it for you. Why are you not wanting to engage with what the topic is?
Still…not on topic.It's specific that He acts on behalf of the believing Jews and the Gentiles also.
He did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— even us, whom He also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles; As he says in Hosea: “I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people; Rom 9:23-25
Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; 1 Peter 2:10
It's closer!Still…not on topic.
Do you mean not in agreement with your illusion that Christ did not save the Gentiles?Still…not on topic.
Where did I say that?Do you mean not in agreement with your illusion that Christ did not save the Gentiles?
"how-many-gentiles-were-lost-because-jesus-didn’t-act"Where did I say that?
I edited the OP title. Now try again."how-many-gentiles-were-lost-because-jesus-didn’t-act"
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