How many creationist here think that atheism and evolution go together?

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Everything in the Bible has been tested and proven to be accurate and true.

What to say?

Either you have not read the entire bible, or your education level is very poor, or you are very gullible, or you are simply joking or perhaps even lying. I cant tell what the case is, but I can tell, by asserting this, you have just disqualified yourself from being taken seriously by me - ever again. .

In fact God watches over His word to perform it.

Of course we just assert that god exists as well... I guess it must be the Christian god we are supposed to assume, in blind faith, to exist... How convenient isn't that for you.

So you can have no better assurance then that.

Do you seriously think someone should believe you just because you said it is so?

If you do what the Bible says to do you can be 100% assured that you will get the results the Bible says you will receive.

Obviously another false claim. Again this beg the question if you are joking or not.

Because God watches over His word to perform it. The reason I quote the Bible is because of that accuracy and lack of error.

O dear...

Not really sure here, but it seams like you just claim to speak for, or in the name of, god. In particular your seams to claim that what you say is sanctioned by god.

Do you understand that this is very dangerious thought patterns to have? What if god "tells" or "instruct" you to kill somebody - do you relaize how insane and disconnected from reality such thought pattern can become?

When Solomon built his temple The stones used in the construction of the Temple were finished at the quarry, so there was no sound of hammer, ax, or any other iron tool at the building site. It is the same way today with the church. God works on each and every individual, then after He has finished His work in us we are assembled.

Very interesting josahua, what was your point again? Well it doesn't matter *pats joshua on the head* have a fine day!

 

[bhsmte]

Why would you want to know what I do or what I do not know? It is all pretty much a pratt anyways. Siri could take over at just about anytime. I understand now why God answers prayer in a way that we would never think or imagine, so that we know that He is real. Sort of like Pink when she does her acrobatics, she wants you to know for sure that she is really singing and it is not a recording.

Frankly, because that is where the entertainment value is.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Frankly, because that is where the entertainment value is.

So you think we are here for your entertainment?

 

[joshua 1 9]

What to say?

Either you have not read the entire bible, or your education level is very poor, or you are very gullible, or you are simply joking or perhaps even lying. I cant tell what the case is, but I can tell, by asserting this, you have just disqualified yourself from being taken seriously by me - ever again. .

Is the truth that foreign to you?

 

[joshua 1 9]

My point is; if you do not want to participate in the discussions and the topic why even bother be here?

People exp on this board are always guilty of what they accuse others of. I have tried many times to have serious conversations about the topic, but the atheists are to busy trying to proselytize their cause. They mostly do that through a suppression of the truth.

 

[bhsmte]

So you think we are here for your entertainment?

I enjoy observing human behavior. I find many posters on this site, highly entertaining, from a psychological standpoint.

 

[bhsmte]

People exp on this board are always guilty of what they accuse others of. I have tried many times to have serious conversations about the topic, but the atheists are to busy trying to proselytize their cause. They mostly do that through a suppression of the truth.

Truth can be demonstrated, in an objective way. No one is stopping you from doing so and to date, you have failed to demonstrate any type of truth.

 

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So you think we are here for your entertainment?

It rather seams like you are the one that regard others to be here fore your own personal entertainment - your selfish purpose to please your god only. Because, wasn't it you that wrote: "All we need to do is to deliver the message God gives us to deliver and we are done.." ?

Deliver and done - then bye! Do people really means that little to you - is it only your god that matters to you in your own selfish little world?

 

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Truth can be demonstrated, in an objective way.

How?

 

[bhsmte]

How?

With well evidenced facts, that directly support a claim of truth.

 

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People exp on this board are always guilty of what they accuse others of.

I agree, our judgement of others is (to) often a reflection of our own biases, short comings, fears and other thought patterns. It is good to be aware of this bias in others, but even better to be aware of this bias in ourselves.

Related to this, studies have shown the less we know someone the more we project our own beliefs and biases to that person. Interestingly enough the study also show the "person" everyone knows the less, but have most opinions, about is god.

I have tried many times to have serious conversations about the topic,

If you tried and failed many times, I would then advice you to take a look at yourself and see what you can change within yourself in order to be more successful. If you always fails, you may even consider the option that you, yourself, might be wrong. I.e it is good to ask oneself from time to time, is it you that are sane and everybody else insane or is it the other way around.

Maybe you - not others - need to change.

but the atheists are to busy trying to proselytize their cause.

This is the forum to "proselytize" evolution - I don't see why you have a problem with that?

They mostly do that through a suppression of the truth.

Or maybe they are not convinced by your arguments? If your approach is "This is true - just believe me!", then nobody will accept such argument. You would not accept such argument from me - so why should anyone accept such argument from you? Because you said it is true? There we go again...

(I am trying to help you here to see how your own thought patterns operates within yourself...)

 

[joshua 1 9]

It rather seams like you are the one that regard others to be here fore your own personal entertainment - your selfish purpose to please your god only. Because, wasn't it you that wrote: "All we need to do is to deliver the message God gives us to deliver and we are done.." ?

Deliver and done - then bye! Do people really means that little to you - is it only your god that matters to you in your own selfish little world?

How is it selfish to be selfless?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Truth can be demonstrated, in an objective way. No one is stopping you from doing so and to date, you have failed to demonstrate any type of truth.

Perhaps you have not heard that: "The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor." I have repeatedly shown you overwhelming evidence yet you continue to disregard it.

 

[bhsmte]

Perhaps you have not heard that: "The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor." I have repeatedly shown you overwhelming evidence yet you continue to disregard it.

I have come to the conclusion, you truly don't understand the different between; a claim and evidence.

 

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With well evidenced facts, that directly support a claim of truth.

How do you prove a positive claim (a truth) to be true with evidence?

 

[bhsmte]

How do you prove a positive claim to be true with evidence?

The same way, a scientific theory, explains the well evidenced facts.

In this thread, there have been claims that; the claims in the bible are fully supported by science. I have yet to see any well evidenced facts, support the major biblical claims.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I have come to the conclusion, you truly don't understand the different between; a claim and evidence.

Have you heard of thylamine? The evidence showed that it was so safe it was suitable for prescribing to pregnant women. The results would indicate otherwise. For me the proof is in the pudding. (The original proverb is: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. And what it meant was that you had to try out food to know whether it was good.) As the leading expert on DNA: Francis Collins says: Most of what we thought we knew about DNA 10 years ago has been proven to be wrong.

1Then He said to me, "Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel." 2So I opened my mouth, and He fed me this scroll.3He said to me, "Son of man, feed your stomach and fill your body with this scroll which I am giving you." Then I ate it, and it was sweet as honey in my mouth.…Eze3

 

[bhsmte]

Have you heard of thylamine? The evidence showed that it was so safe it was suitable for prescribing to pregnant women. The results would indicate otherwise. For me the proof is in the pudding. (The original proverb is: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. And what it meant was that you had to try out food to know whether it was good.) As the leading expert on DNA: Francis Collins says: Most of what we thought we knew about DNA 10 years ago has been proven to be wrong.

1Then He said to me, "Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel." 2So I opened my mouth, and He fed me this scroll.3He said to me, "Son of man, feed your stomach and fill your body with this scroll which I am giving you." Then I ate it, and it was sweet as honey in my mouth.…Eze3

And this has what to do, with you supporting your own claims with evidence?

 

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I have repeatedly shown you overwhelming evidence yet you continue to disregard it.

References to a similar claim to validate a claims is hearsay. I do not know precisely what you have "shown" as evidence, but your evidence have been to point out that others - in particular the bible - makes the same claim. I.e. you use hearsay as evidence. Hearsay is usally not considered to be enough as evidence on its own, and in articular not being "overwhelming" evidence - since the number of claims made does not matter - you cannot vote about what is true or not.

 

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Have you heard of thylamine? The evidence showed that it was so safe it was suitable for prescribing to pregnant women. The results would indicate otherwise. For me the proof is in the

This is a false analogy ...

As the leading expert on DNA: Francis Collins says: Most of what we thought we knew about DNA 10 years ago has been proven to be wrong.

Suspecting a false analogy, this is 2016, and not it hasn't. I also suspect you are quoting of out context - even doubt you quoted correctly.

Source please.

Then He said to me, "Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel." 2So I opened my mouth, and He fed me this scroll.3He said to me, "Son of man, feed your stomach and fill your body with this scroll which I am giving you." Then I ate it, and it was sweet as honey in my mouth.…Eze3

This is hearsay...