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As far as the "high" you get: I was raised Christian and I remember the feeling when everyone gets excited in church and so on. That is a mental emotion that is triggered by stimulating certain parts of the brain.
That's strange that you say you hear from God.I was actually brought up as an agnostic, and wasn't taught anythingI even made fun of Christians at one point of my life
No, cause the child does not actually hear from their imaginary friend, but we can hear from God, and not only that but get prayers answered in concrete ways... and when children grow up they usually see that the 'friend' was imaginary, but in the Christian's life, you just see God more and more with timeand He becomes more real to you... it's not something you grow 'out of', unless you decide to reject Him
it's hard to describe...to put into words...knowing Jesus is not quite like anything else that we experience
I've experienced both and it's different than that
it's not like being excited or whatever, it's pure peace..the peace of Christ.. I've never felt that before anywhere ..it's not just an emotion.. it changes people.. and I'm not talking about being with other believers but with Him, one on one..
That's strange that you say you hear from God.
Some people don't "grow" out of their imaginary friend issue. They are called insane and they do hear from the imaginary friend talking to them
When only one person hears a voice of an invisible person talking to them, they are crazy, but when many people hear that voice, it's religion. But most likely, it's a bunch of crazy people.
Having a subconcious imaginary friend has also been proven, almost like a multiple personality but a little different.
Yep..a deep abiding peace..also tangible during worship...
If your mind wants something to be real, it can make it real, whether it's visual or audible. So if you believe your being spoken to by a supernatural being, then your mind will make it real. That also has been proven.Many Christians doit's by the Holy Spirit...it's not something audible btw (well in most cases, some Saints have heard Jesus' voice or seen Him, but that's real rare)
Jesus said:
"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." 6Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.
7Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. (John 10)
I never heard any 'voices' or anything before I became a Christian (or indeed in any other context..I never even had imaginary friends as a child)...so how would you explain that? Would you say that I 'became insane' when I started to believe? haha
yup I know I've taken psych. courses
If your mind wants something to be real, it can make it real, whether it's visual or audible. So if you believe your being spoken to by a supernatural being, then your mind will make it real. That also has been proven.
For example: If a woman wants to be pregnant (granted this takes a determind woman to do this but the mind still controls it) and she really believes she is, even if she isn't, she can show signs of pregnancy, such as lactating.
So once again, to answer your question "I never heard any 'voices' or anything before I became a Christian (or indeed in any other context..I never even had imaginary friends as a child)...so how would you explain that?" You never wanted to hear those voices before you were christian that's why they weren't there.
quote=nitecrawlur; If your mind wants something to be real, it can make it real, whether it's visual or audible. So if you believe your being spoken to by a supernatural being, then your mind will make it real. That also has been proven.
Or if a guy wants to convince others of his reality, he can display symptoms of it being real?For example: If a woman wants to be pregnant (granted this takes a determind woman to do this but the mind still controls it) and she really believes she is, even if she isn't, she can show signs of pregnancy, such as lactating.
So once again, to answer your question "I never heard any 'voices' or anything before I became a Christian (or indeed in any other context..I never even had imaginary friends as a child)...so how would you explain that?" You never wanted to hear those voices before you were christian that's why they weren't there.
Seriously. I had no idea. Hmmm. Besides the shroudI understand what you are saying...kind of. But again there is no evidence. You SAY these things, but they are only words. Not physical evidence. For example we know dinosaurs lived because we have physical evidence of them. As for Jesus or God there is nothing of that type to support it.
Oh heavens yes, shoot look at the horoscope followers,When you say he answers specific prayers: you can make anything out of anything when your mind looks for it. It's a natural occurance and is scientifically proven.
When you say he answers specific prayers: you can make anything out of anything when your mind looks for it. It's a natural occurance and is scientifically proven.
Seriously. I had no idea. Hmmm. Besides the shroud
of turin you mean or the stigmatas.(kidding, those
are hoaxes imo)
Heck, there are plenty of documented cases!When you say he has healed before your eyes, I'm willing to bet that there was no medical follow up to assess possible theories what what really happened.
No, I dont care to go back there, but I can appreciateAnd if you mean literally that he saved your life, I'm sure that it was mearly coincidence on whatever the scenerio was. I could be more specific if you provide more detail.
OH yeah, that 'feeling'. NO , I wasnt talking aboutAs far as the "high" you get: I was raised Christian and I remember the feeling when everyone gets excited in church and so on. That is a mental emotion that is triggered by stimulating certain parts of the brain. Basically what I'm saying is you are capable of creating any feeling you want whether it be concious or not. I get a high when I watched this years superbowl on tv in the fourth quarter.
To add, I hope you're not implying that I abuse controled substances. Or for that matter I hope you aren't trying to bribe me into your belief under the assumption that I do by saying "your high" is better than mine
OH yeah, that 'feeling'. NO , I wasnt talking about
that, but I do pray with my boys every day, and
most of the time, this incredible peace and calm
.. almost surreal and mmmm heavenly? comes
into the room. I just attribute that to where
two or more gather in my name, there I am among
them. Dunno why that happens sometimes and not
other times. But no, I wasnt talking of any physical
high or feelings.
Amen praise God.Sometimes if I'm going through something, like if I'm in pain (emotionally) or really worried about something, lol I almost lose my mind with worry sometimesbut then I turn to Jesus and I just spend some time with Him, and He fills me with this beautiful peace, it's not just an emotion or a feeling... I don't create it in myself or even try to feel anything, I just try to seek Him... and I just know that whatever happens, even if my situation doesn't improve, Jesus will be there and that is enough. It's soo true how He said that He gives peace that's unlike what the world gives.
Also when I am at church before the Eucharist (during Mass) I could be feeling nothing one moment and then I'm just filled with His peace again.
God never leaves us
Amen praise God.
I often have to seek God for
that peace that only He can
give.
(are you drinking caffeine? Because
we sure can post tonight. I'm
on decaf so dunno my excuse yet)
At least you didnt tell him, "good luck with that"hey!
God (or my mind) did sorta the same thing for me when I was a single parent & the Utility Company truck pulled up in my driveway to shut off the power.
I was so exhausted & feeling so defeated by the world at that moment, that my strength to resist was gone.
All I had was my conscience & it didn't want to hide & pretend I wasn't home.
I answered the door, and the guy looked totaly surprised that I did. He said, "Do you know who I am?"
I said, "Yeah, I know."
He said, "Do you know what I'm here for?"
I said, yeah, I know. You gotta do what ya gotta do."
Man those were the DAYS!The only furniture in the house was the back seat from a VW bus, and an electric cable spool for a table. That's it.
The guy looked around, and said"Do you live here?"
I said, "Yeah, just me & my son", pointin' to my 3yr old.
Yeah lol. I've had an "invisible" friend since childhood.Boy, ya realy gotta watch out for those co-inky-dinks. They can goad your mind into makin' invisible friends, I guess, huh?
YES, those times, I figure hey, someone must beyup =) and sometimes He surprises us toohehe
Mmm, I had one half square of a hersheys bar,coffee is goodI had some this morning! but no..not right now...I did have some chocolate though!!
Oh that SO explains it.I'm having fun, recovering from the stress of my statistics exam earlier today
Woo Hooooooo, freedom!Ahhh... my shift is over.
I gotta make the 1/2 hour commute home.
BRB
I think it strange that you don't hear from God- perhaps you are defective in some way? A color blindness of a type, or a spiritual sociopathology...That's strange that you say you hear from God.
Some people don't "grow" out of their imaginary friend issue. They are called insane and they do hear from the imaginary friend talking to them
When only one person hears a voice of an invisible person talking to them, they are crazy, but when many people hear that voice, it's religion. But most likely, it's a bunch of crazy people.
Having a subconcious imaginary friend has also been proven, almost like a multiple personality but a little different.
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