How many 2024 predictions have already failed? How many HAVE to fail before people realise?

[tailgator]

No, I just proved that you've said nothing, but merely posted some verses of Scripture that you didn't understand, and given them a "meaning" that has nothing whatsoever to do with reality. Congratulations!

If you knew when the prophecy was fulfilled ,then you would have given the date it was fulfilled.

You didn't give a date because you don't know when it is fulfilled.You don't understand anything about the prophecy at all.Yiu know nothing about the abomination that causes desolation or the great tribulation at that time or the resurection which takes place at that time.

 

[tailgator]

No, I just proved that you've said nothing, but merely posted some verses of Scripture that you didn't understand, and given them a "meaning" that has nothing whatsoever to do with reality. Congratulations!

You don't even understand what causes the earthquake or the cloud that ascends into heaven on resurrection day.

 

[Jipsah]

You don't even understand what causes the earthquake or the cloud that ascends into heaven on resurrection day.

And I'm sure that you have some altogether unique cause for it. And I'm sure that I'd be appropriately impressed if I heard it. And I'm also fairly sure that in the Great Scheme of Things, it's not very high on the list. BTW, if it has something to do with the Temple, or the daily sacrifice, then you've already missed it.

 

[Jipsah]

If you knew when the prophecy was fulfilled ,then you would have given the date it was fulfilled.

I'd rather yuou googled it for yourself. Hint: Ity was the same time the Temple was destroyed and sacrifice was made to the Abomination That Makes Desolate in the Holy Place. It's plain history, read it yourself, if only for the novelty of of it.

You didn't give a date because you don't know when it is fulfilled.

I just told you again, matey. Risk the damage to your fingers and google it. Or just continue repeating the same drivel. But thwe facts remain, the Temple is gone, and daily sacrifice has ceased, end of.

You don't understand anything about the prophecy at all.

That's OK, I don't set much store by the knowledge of historical trivia, unless it involves the Civil War in Tennesse.

Yiu know nothing about the abomination that causes desolation

Sure I do. That's history as well. Never read any at all, have you? You should, again, if only for novelty's sake.

or the great tribulation at that time or the resurection which takes place at that time.

A great tribulation certainly took place then. Streams of blood flowed in the streets of Jerusalem. You probably never heard of that, either. You did read the Olivet Discourse, where our Lord warned His followers of what was about to take place, right? Well, it did.

Oh, BTW, The Beast is dead and gone, too. There was a reason St. John expected his readers (the folks to whom the letter was sent) to know who "666" was.; Neron Kaiser. St. John didn't refer to him by name in case the latter fell into unfriendly hands.I guess that comes as disheartening news if you're still playing "pin the tail on the antichrist".

 

[Jipsah]

If you knew when the prophecy was fulfilled ,then you would have given the date it was fulfilled.

If you don't know, telling you wouldn't help any.

You didn't give a date because you don't know when it is fulfilled.

I do, and I guess I have to undertake your education as well. So here's a link for you that'll tell you all you need to know about the fall of Jerusalem, and the End of Temple Judaism.

You don't understand anything about the prophecy at all.

You seem to be poorly positioned to make such a charge aganst anyone at all, since you're obviously oblivious to the historic end of sacrificial Judaism. Garden variety ignorance is excusable, but the combination of arrogance and ignorance is considerably more difficult to endure with any patience. Reminds me an kid who set a bout to school me on "object oriented programming", when he had only a tenuous grap on what itwas and how it worked, while I had a few thousand lines of object oriented code running on hundreds of phone systems. The empty bucket really does tend to rattle the loudest.

Yiu know nothing about the abomination that causes desolation or the great tribulation at that time or the resurection which takes place at that time.

Follow the link I gave you and it should answer yur questions. Unless, of course, you're still trying to figure out which current world lrader is The Antichrist.

 

[Tom8907]

Perfect opportunity to do a Justin Peters.

Here are my predictions for 2024- I predict Christ will continue saving people throughout the world, I predict Christ will continue sharing his glory and inspiring his church.

 

[tailgator]

And I'm sure that you have some altogether unique cause for it. And I'm sure that I'd be appropriately impressed if I heard it. And I'm also fairly sure that in the Great Scheme of Things, it's not very high on the list. BTW, if it has something to do with the Temple, or the daily sacrifice, then you've already missed it.

Like I said,you don't understand anything and have proven it.
The daily sacrifice is abolished 3.5 years before the the great tribulation and the resurection which takes place at that time.

 

[Jipsah]

Like I said,you don't understand anything and have proven it.
The daily sacrifice is abolished 3.5 years before the the great tribulation and the resurection which takes place at that time.

I’d be keen to hear where the daily sacrifice is taking place now, and in the absence of a temple. You may well be the only person who knows about this!

 

[tailgator]

I'd rather yuou googled it for yourself. Hint: Ity was the same time the Temple was destroyed and sacrifice was made to the Abomination That Makes Desolate in the Holy Place. It's plain history, read it yourself, if only for the novelty of of it.

I just told you again, matey. Risk the damage to your fingers and google it. Or just continue repeating the same drivel. But thwe facts remain, the Temple is gone, and daily sacrifice has ceased, end of.

That's OK, I don't set much store by the knowledge of historical trivia, unless it involves the Civil War in Tennesse.

Sure I do. That's history as well. Never read any at all, have you? You should, again, if only for novelty's sake.

A great tribulation certainly took place then. Streams of blood flowed in the streets of Jerusalem. You probably never heard of that, either. You did read the Olivet Discourse, where our Lord warned His followers of what was about to take place, right? Well, it did.

Oh, BTW, The Beast is dead and gone, too. There was a reason St. John expected his readers (the folks to whom the letter was sent) to know who "666" was.; Neron Kaiser. St. John didn't refer to him by name in case the latter fell into unfriendly hands.I guess that comes as disheartening news if you're still playing "pin the tail on the antichrist".

So your now saying the great tribulation and resurrection have taken place already .
What year are you saying Jesus came and raised the dead?

 

[tailgator]

I’d be keen to hear where the daily sacrifice is taking place now, and in the absence of a temple. You may well be the only person who knows about this!

Read the news .
It's an everyday occurrence.

 

[tailgator]

I’d be keen to hear where the daily sacrifice is taking place now, and in the absence of a temple. You may well be the only person who knows about this!

I'd be more keen to hear when the great tribulation and resurrection of the dead took place.

What year are you saying the resurrection took place?I can't find it on Google.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Man, you guys know how to fill up a thread.

The daily sacrifice is abolished 3.5 years before the the great tribulation and the resurection which takes place at that time.

I think this is correct. The daily sacrifice is ended in the middle of an end time week which ends with the resurrection.

I also think we're living the week.

Maybe living with the weak?

I’d be keen to hear where the daily sacrifice is taking place now, and in the absence of a temple. You may well be the only person who knows about this!

I don't think it is taking place anymore now in 2024. I suspect it just ended around the second half of 2021, or about 3/4s of the way through 2021.

Someone said the word "sacrifice", in the verse I think you're talking about, was inserted by the KJV translators. It was really the "daily", or the "continual" service in the temple. That didn't end when the curtain was rent in the first century. Jesus just took control of it as our High Priest in Heaven's Temple.

The "daily", or the "continual" service in the temple, was at the golden alter, or the alter on incense. Moses was told to be sure to make the earthly temple exactly to the specifications of the pattern which he was shown on the mountain. So that it would be a copy, a shadow, of the real one in heaven. So the table of shewbread, the alter of incense, the brazen alter and all the vital objects of furniture listed in the pattern shown to Moses were duplicates of the originals in heaven.

In Daniel 9:27, Jesus puts an end to all sacrifices and offerings in the middle of an end time heptad when the censer is cast down in that scene from Revelation 8 in heaven's temple. And that's when you get your trumpets and vials started.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

What year was the Euphrates river dried up to make way for the kings of the east to go to Armegeddon?

Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

2022/2023

Photos: Middle East’s Fertile Crescent dries up as rains fail

Residents endure drought, decades of conflict and lower rainfall along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

www.aljazeera.com

Kings of the East?

The Father and Jesus.

He who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.

"And they said to the mountains and the rocks,
Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne,
and from the wrath of the Lamb.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[tailgator]

2022/2023

Photos: Middle East’s Fertile Crescent dries up as rains fail

Residents endure drought, decades of conflict and lower rainfall along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

www.aljazeera.com

Kings of the East?

The Father and Jesus.

He who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.

"And they said to the mountains and the rocks,
Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne,
and from the wrath of the Lamb.

Peaceful Sabbath.

I don't think Jesus is a king of the east.
I believe it's talking about the kings of Iran,Iraq and Syria.
The people who are most effected by the three year drought that causes the Euphrates to run dry.
After the three year drought caused by the two witnesses,those kings will rise up ,attack Jerusalem and kill those two witnesses.

Revelation11

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.


Muslims of Iran,Iraq are commanded in the Hadith to attack and kill the Dajjals armed forces after a three year drought.Looks like they do exactly what the Hadith tells them to do Then they all die.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I don't think Jesus is a king of the east.
I believe it's talking about the kings of Iran,Iraq and Syria.
The people who are most effected by the three year drought that causes the Euphrates to run dry.
After the three year drought caused by the two witnesses,those kings will rise up ,attack Jerusalem and kill those two witnesses.

Jesus can be King, and Mighty God, over the whole world. But in the context of Revelation 16, He's one of the Kings from the East.

It says kings FROM the east, not OF the east.

"The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the east.​

Due to the earth's rotation, when visitors come from heaven, they appear to be coming from the east. Remember Jesus saying like lightning shinning from the east and to the west?

"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.​

And the angel ascending from the east with the seal of God?

"And I saw another angel ascending from the east, with the seal of the living God.​

And the news from the east alarming the stern faced king in Daniel 11?

The drying up of the Euphrates is also symbolic language for destruction coming from the north.

Destruction always comes from the north.

King of the north, the Assyrian, is symbolic language for King of destruction, the son of perdition.

It's the same concept as the drying up of the great river Euphrates.

The Euphrates river was a large natural obstacle preventing invading armies from the north coming down into Israel and bringing destruction. When this river dries up, the green light is given for the Kings FROM the East to bring Divine Destruction.

Like the angel ascending from the East bringing the seal of God, and the lightning of Jesus coming from the east to the west, the Kings from the East are heavenly Visitors. God the Father, and Jesus:

"They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!​

( I wouldn't be waiting for Hal Lindsey's Asian army to be marching through the Euphrates Riverbed. LOL)

But Divine Destroyers came from the north.

Nebuchadnezzar came down from the north and wiped out Jerusalem.

"For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction." ... Set up the banner in Zion: come together, do not delay: for I bring evil from the north wind, .​

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"Then the LORD said, "This means destruction will break out from the north on all ... cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you; For smoke comes from the north, .​

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"Egypt is like a very fair heifer, but destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north.​

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"Then the LORD said to me, "Out of the north the evil will break forth on all the inhabitants of the land.​

And notice during a time of restoration God removes the northerner:

“I will remove the northerner far from you, and drive him into a parched and desolate land, his vanguard into the eastern sea,​

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Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[tailgator]

Jesus can be King, and Mighty God, over the whole world. But in the context of Revelation 16, He's one of the Kings from the East.

It says kings FROM the east, not OF the east.

"The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the east.​

Due to the earth's rotation, when visitors come from heaven, they appear to be coming from the east. Remember Jesus saying like lightning shinning from the east and to the west?

"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.​

And the angel ascending from the east with the seal of God?

"And I saw another angel ascending from the east, with the seal of the living God.​

And the news from the east alarming the stern faced king in Daniel 11?

The drying up of the Euphrates is also symbolic language for destruction coming from the north.

Destruction always comes from the north.

King of the north, the Assyrian, is symbolic language for King of destruction, the son of perdition.

It's the same concept as the drying up of the great river Euphrates.

The Euphrates river was a large natural obstacle preventing invading armies from the north coming down into Israel and bringing destruction. When this river dries up, the green light is given for the Kings FROM the East to bring Divine Destruction.

Like the angel ascending from the East bringing the seal of God, and the lightning of Jesus coming from the east to the west, the Kings from the East are heavenly Visitors. God the Father, and Jesus:

"They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!​

( I wouldn't be waiting for Hal Lindsey's Asian army to be marching through the Euphrates Riverbed. LOL)

But Divine Destroyers came from the north.

Nebuchadnezzar came down from the north and wiped out Jerusalem.

"For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction." ... Set up the banner in Zion: come together, do not delay: for I bring evil from the north wind, .​

​

"Then the LORD said, "This means destruction will break out from the north on all ... cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you; For smoke comes from the north, .​

​

"Egypt is like a very fair heifer, but destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north.​

​

"Then the LORD said to me, "Out of the north the evil will break forth on all the inhabitants of the land.​

And notice during a time of restoration God removes the northerner:

“I will remove the northerner far from you, and drive him into a parched and desolate land, his vanguard into the eastern sea,​

​

Peaceful Sabbath.

Assyria isn't the king of the north

Assyria does not have a great fleet of ships
That would be the United States of America that has a great fleet of ships.
This will be the third time the United states invades the middle east and it will be the last.

Daniel 11
40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood

 

[tailgator]

Hi all,
So how many 2024 predictions have already failed this year?

I'm also aware that another very big contributor to this forum only has a few years for a temple to appear in Israel for his timetable to pan out (AOD in 2026 apparently - but hello? Where's the temple?)

As an Amil who sees Revelation as John's letter of comfort to fellow Christians suffering in his generation - I'm always amazed at the proliferation of futurist timetables and endless, heartfelt, heated debates about which futurist timetable is right.

And any time people put dates or even sequences of events on them - they fail.

Looks like my 2024 prediction has been fulfilled.
I will make a 2025 prediction soon.

 

[Jipsah]

Looks like my 2024 prediction has been fulfilled.

But of course! Did it happen in Heaven, or was it just too spiritual for regular folks to detect? That's the wat that failed "prophecies" usually work.

I will make a 2025 prediction soon.

I prediect that they'll all be as phony as your 2024 prognostications were. That's been the lesson of history: "End Times "prophecies" "revealed" to "End Times Prophets"never happen. It's reall easy to claim to be a "prophet", but apparently well-nigh impossible to actually predict amything that can be objetively proven or disproven.

 

[tailgator]

But of course! Did it happen in Heaven, or was it just too spiritual for regular folks to detect? That's the wat that failed "prophecies" usually work.

I prediect that they'll all be as phony as your 2024 prognostications were. That's been the lesson of history: "End Times "prophecies" "revealed" to "End Times Prophets"never happen. It's reall easy to claim to be a "prophet", but apparently well-nigh impossible to actually predict amything that can be objetively proven or disproven.

My 2024 prediction was that Donald Trump would be reelected

My prediction has been fulfilled.