How long has man been created.

[GenemZ]

Just interested if anyone has tell me how long since Adam was created, according to the Bible....I believe this can be worked out.

I know it is close to 6000 years....but exactly how many years, was what I was interested in.

There are scholars who have learned that in the geneologies that are given in the Bible will skip a generation here and there. Because, only pre-eminent ancestors (notorious or noble) were to be mentioned. It was the custom. Given that men could live easily to be hundreds of years old in the earlier history, it has been estimated that man as we now know him may have walked the earth anywhere between 10,000 - 30,000 years. God always knew that certain men was destined to discover this factor, because with faithful diligent study a more accurate understaning would emerge. My pastor who was a historian, and a Hebrew and Greek scholar showed us this. He told us that we can not be certain by simply using what we find in the genealogies alone.


Grace and peace, GeneZ

 

[An Arch Angel]

60,000 at the earliest, to around 120,000 years ago.

Feel privileged that you were chosen to lead the way. Be honored you will allow the next line to exist.

 

[GenemZ]

Haha, I know many of you don't WANT to hear this but Homo sapien sapiens have walked the earth for nearly 500,000 years. This overlapped with cro-magnon subspecies, Homo heidelbergensis and neanderthal man (not of our same species). Before then was Homo erectus/ergastor. Before that, Homo Habilis, and before that (appx. 5 mya) the autralopithecenes. Adam represented the first hominid of God's elect people and was the first created in the image of God to the greatest degree. As far as trying to pinpoint the exact time the quintessential "Adam" was created through biblical geneological studies, or any other for that matter, is simply wishful thinking in my opinion. Enjoy the cognitive dissonance this post creates.

You speak not of this current creation with those types.

Those were humanoids you speak of, not homo sapien. Adam was the first homo sapien and of this current creation. Those humanoids lived during prehistoric creations.


If you wish to become a person of superior knowledge, don't stop with only half the facts.

Look here: Without Form and Void - Frontpage


Having half the facts makes one no better than having no knowledge at all.


In Christ, GeneZ

 

[fwwid]

You speak not of this current creation with those types.

Those were humanoids you speak of, not homo sapien. Adam was the first homo sapien and of this current creation. Those humanoids lived during prehistoric creations.


If you wish to become a person of superior knowledge, don't stop with only half the facts.

Look here: Without Form and Void - Frontpage



Having half the facts makes one no better than having no knowledge at all.


In Christ, GeneZ

genez, haha, so I see your "because I said so" doctrine still hasn't escaped your brain. You obviously need to brush up on your science. I love how you continue to assert authority as the all around arbitrator of what is fact and what is half-truth; psssht, your hubris is nauseating. "homo sapiens" have been around for a long time. Our exact species, Homo sapien sapiens, has been around for merely 500,000 years, whether you believe Adam represents the commencement of our species or not - although we might need to make an exception for you if your profile pic is legitimate, haha.

 

[GenemZ]

genez, haha, so I see your "because I said so" doctrine still hasn't escaped your brain.

Mirror... mirror..

On his wall..

Show this man what happens

before a man falls.
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You obviously need to brush up on your science. I love how you continue to assert authority as the all around arbitrator of what is fact and what is half-truth; psssht, your hubris is nauseating.

What an informative post you always present us.

"homo sapiens" have been around for a long time. Our exact species, Homo sapien sapiens, has been around for merely 500,000 years, whether you believe Adam represents the commencement of our species or not - although we might need to make an exception for you if your profile pic is legitimate, haha.

Humanoid is a creature that has features resembling Adam.

Adam was created in God's image. Its the soul that makes one a man, not a similar body.

Now, for that link I gave you? That is knowledge of God's Word that will tell you that other creations preceded this one. Humanoids, included.

Why are you so antagonistic to knowledge that would make you free to see why such fossils do exist? It would seem that you truly want to believe the falsehoods that now are being used to feed your ego, so you can maintain a sense of having a secure position of needing to see yourself as being superior to us low life Christians who know God's Word will always be proven true once it is properly understood.


Without Form and Void - Frontpage


Run away from it?

Matthew 16:25
"For whoever wants to save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for me will find it."




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[An Arch Angel]

There are scholars who have learned that in the geneologies that are given in the Bible will skip a generation here and there. Because, only pre-eminent ancestors (notorious or noble) were to be mentioned. It was the custom. Given that men could live easily to be hundreds of years old in the earlier history, it has been estimated that man as we now know him may have walked the earth anywhere between 10,000 - 30,000 years. God always knew that certain men was destined to discover this factor, because with faithful diligent study a more accurate understaning would emerge. My pastor who was a historian, and a Hebrew and Greek scholar showed us this. He told us that we can not be certain by simply using what we find in the genealogies alone.


Grace and peace, GeneZ

"How long have humans existed on Earth?

Human have existed for roughly half a million years, but this answer depends on the exact definition of "human". Fossil evidence shows that several human-like lineages developed during the past million years or so. >From fossils, the appearance of Homo sapiens is dated at about half a million years, and of anatomically modern Homo sapiens at about a hundred thousand years, values that are also supported by genomic evidence. Another data point, although not something you asked directly, is that the recent complete sequencing of the genome of the chimpanzee, which is the closest living relative of humans, suggests that chimps and humans diverged from their common ancestor about 6 million years ago. Of the many intermediate related species that have existed since then, only chimps and modern humans survive today. "

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist
June 12, 2006

 

[fwwid]

Mirror... mirror..

On his wall..

Show this man what happens

before a man falls.
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What an informative post you always present us.






Humanoid is a creature that has features resembling Adam.

Adam was created in God's image. Its the soul that makes one a man, not a similar body.

Now, for that link I gave you? That is knowledge of God's Word that will tell you that other creations preceded this one. Humanoids, included.

Why are you so antagonistic to knowledge that would make you free to see why such fossils do exist? It would seem that you truly want to believe the falsehoods that now are being used to feed your ego, so you can maintain a sense of having a secure position of needing to see yourself as being superior to us low life Christians who know God's Word will always be proven true once it is properly understood.


Without Form and Void - Frontpage


Run away from it?

Matthew 16:25
"For whoever wants to save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for me will find it."




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Excuse me Genez, if I chose to not interpret everything you say as doctrine. As much as you try to portray yourself a prophet of God, your fruits of personal attacks and misconceived judgements indicate that you are false indeed, sorry - that's just the way it is, and has always been since I've known you. Haha, it's just so funny how you post a link and get offended that I don't think it's as important as you think it is. Calm down please. Show the distinguishing characteristic of discipleship - for your own sake.

 

[GenemZ]

Excuse me Genez, if I chose to not interpret everything you say as doctrine. As much as you try to portray yourself a prophet of God, your fruits of personal attacks and misconceived judgements indicate that you are false indeed, sorry - that's just the way it is, and has always been since I've known you. Haha, it's just so funny how you post a link and get offended that I don't think it's as important as you think it is. Calm down please. Show the distinguishing characteristic of discipleship - for your own sake.

That's all you have to offer now. Fine.

Next..

 

[Adoniram]

Well, all I have to say is that fossils are dated based on radiometric dating of the layers of rock they're found in. The same system of dating that dated newly formed rocks that spewed forth from Mt. St. Helens in 1986 to between 290,000 and 3.4 million years.

 

[An Arch Angel]

Well, all I have to say is that fossils are dated based on radiometric dating of the layers of rock they're found in. The same system of dating that dated newly formed rocks that spewed forth from Mt. St. Helens in 1986 to between 290,000 and 3.4 million years.

This is not totally correct.
Radiometric dating is used for a lose time frame. They use index fossils to narrow down the time frame of what happened first, second, and so fourth. They also use what they know about deposition rates as a “Clock” so to speak to. When you put these three pieces together you get a lose time line of what happened when.

 

[GenemZ]

This is not totally correct.
Radiometric dating is used for a lose time frame. They use index fossils to narrow down the time frame of what happened first, second, and so fourth. They also use what they know about deposition rates as a “Clock” so to speak to. When you put these three pieces together you get a lose time line of what happened when.

But he made a point. One you failed to address. You digressed. How could something so new, be shown to be so old? That was his point. You failed to address that point.

 

[An Arch Angel]

But he made a point. One you failed to address. You digressed. How could something so new, be shown to be so old? That was his point. You failed to address that point.

How new is it? Lava is only melted rock, it is not new “stuff”. The radio isotope is what they measure. They then can compare relative abundance of these radioisotopes to get an Idea of how old the magma may be. The isotopes only give you the range of how old those groups of atoms are. And, as they pointed out, it is not the best method but it is all they have at times.

My point was they do not rely on radiometric deting alone. Good science relies on multiple sources of evidence that compliment each other.

 

[GenemZ]

How new is it? Lava is only melted rock, it is not new “stuff”. The radio isotope is what they measure. They then can compare relative abundance of these radioisotopes to get an Idea of how old the magma may be.

And, there's the answer. You supplied it yourself. That is why this creation we now live in is not as old as the material it was made from. For there were older creations that once existed and were replaced by God with newer ones. That is why we can not find those elusive "missing links." We only find excuses and weak attempts to produce something that appears to maybe fit the bill.

Please, try the link and see that the Bible teaches that this planet (and universe) is very old. Its only this current creation we now find ourselves living in that is relatively new in comparison.

I hope you keep an open mind. And, I hope that Young Earth Creationists take note and stop muddying up the waters which is hindering a better understanding of God's Holy Word.

Without Form and Void - Frontpage



Grace and peace, GeneZ




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The isotopes only give you the range of how old those groups of atoms are. And, as they pointed out, it is not the best method but it is all they have at times.

My point was they do not rely on radiometric deting alone. Good science relies on multiple sources of evidence that compliment each other.
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[fwwid]

And, there's the answer. You supplied it yourself. That is why this creation we now live in is not as old as the material it was made from. For there were older creations that once existed and were replaced by God with newer ones. That is why we can not find those elusive "missing links." We only find excuses and weak attempts to produce something that appears to maybe fit the bill.

Please, try the link and see that the Bible teaches that this planet (and universe) is very old. Its only this current creation we now find ourselves living in that is relatively new in comparison.

I hope you keep an open mind. And, I hope that Young Earth Creationists take note and stop muddying up the waters which is hindering a better understanding of God's Holy Word.

Without Form and Void - Frontpage



Grace and peace, GeneZ




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The isotopes only give you the range of how old those groups of atoms are. And, as they pointed out, it is not the best method but it is all they have at times.

My point was they do not rely on radiometric deting alone. Good science relies on multiple sources of evidence that compliment each other.

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haha, genez, genez, genez. GEEZ, the fact that you continue to use jargon like "missing link" fundamentally proves that you have no idea what science is about. There's no such thing as the proverbial "missing link". There are only slight morphological changes expressed in species, but spread out of thousands and/or millions of years, depending. Any lack of fossils can be explained by the relatively new/recent interest and technology available to explore this huge planet and the fact that early homonid species weren't exactly large populations like ours today. Nevertheless, miraculously, many fossils have been found - and they will continue to be found. Consequently and inevitibly, you will just flinch each time they are found because you arrogantly refuse to believe what is staring at you in the face. (i.e. pride has bound and set limits on the knowledge your mind can potentially make available to you - so sad.)

 

[GenemZ]

Well.. So be it. You are getting it. Because you just used projection which contained a highly accurate description of the real problem.


Nice to have rekindled your acquaintance. Its once again getting to be too much of a good thing.

Enjoy what you wish, while it can last. Who am I, to try and get in the way of your area of pleasure?



Want to buy some wood, hay and stubble? For cheap?

 

[UnhandledException]

Modern humans have been around for approximately 200,000 years or so.

If you're trying to calculate the "age" of man from a literal reading of Genesis it adds up to somewhere betweeen 4,000 and 6,000 years. They get this number by adding up the ages of the various people and tracing it through the genealogies.

It's interesting when people come up with these big numbers, like 200,000 years.

So, man sat around in his cave for 198,000 years and did nothing. Then, all of a sudden, he decided to start keeping history records.

The 6000 year mark makes much more sense to me, logically speaking.

 

[GenemZ]

It's interesting when people come up with these big numbers, like 200,000 years.

So, man sat around in his cave for 198,000 years and did nothing. Then, all of a sudden, he decided to start keeping history records.

The 6000 year mark makes much more sense to me, logically speaking.

There were humanoid creatures in prior creations. That's why they think its evolution. Most likely, from what we can see from the fossil records, these humanoid creatures had the highest level of intelligence of all the prehistoric creation. But, it was not until this creation when God gave Adam a soul that had been created in God's image, do we see history records being kept. Man is not a high order of animal like the humanoid creatures of prehistory. God decided to give Adam dominion over the earth. It was no longer under the dominion of Satan and his angels who utterly destroyed the function of the prior creation.

That is why dominion was defaulted back to Satan after Adam fell.

Satan had won back his right to be prince of this world.

Matthew 4:8-10
"Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain
and showed him all the kingdoms of the world
and their splendor.
"All this I will give you," he said,
"if you will bow down and worship me."

Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan!

For it is written:

'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"


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God created Adam to originally have dominion over this present creation.
When Satan spoke to Jesus in the temptation we can see that, that was no longer the case.


If interested to learn how the Hebrew and Greek reveals there has been prior creations, look here:


Without Form and Void - Frontpage



In Christ, GeneZ

 

[Dark_Lite]

It's interesting when people come up with these big numbers, like 200,000 years.

So, man sat around in his cave for 198,000 years and did nothing. Then, all of a sudden, he decided to start keeping history records.

The 6000 year mark makes much more sense to me, logically speaking.

Or, intelligence and communication finally developed enough such that it was possible to begin keeping history records.

6,000 years seems logical--until you think about it logically.

 

[johnd]

Don't be so sure about what is accepted as dating in the scientific community by peer pressure and liberal bullying. Take the formation of the major mountain ranges... listen here:

http://static.icr.org/i/radio/mp3/sss-1044.mp3

Dating methods:
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http://static.icr.org/i/radio/mp3/sss-0973.mp3
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[johnd]

What really happened in the Grand Canyon?

http://static.icr.org/i/radio/mp3/sss-1081.mp3
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