How is it Good News ? ? ?

[Grapefruit]

I am told that the good news is that God loves me and forgives me for the wrongs I have done.

But what difference should it make to me that God has love in his heart? If God has love in his heart, that may be good news for him, but how is it good news for me? I might be sympathetically happy for him, as I might be if I heard that a famous movie star had a heart of gold -- but why should it be more directly relevant to me? If he hated me, I might pity him and do what I could to help him be rehabilitated, but how could it distress me? Whether, in God's opinion, he loves rather than hates seems to be more properly his private concern and not mine.

I'm finding it hard to get excited about the fact that God forgives me. Please let me know what I'm missing, THX!!!

 

[JacktheCatholic]

GOOD NEWS

The Good News is that when your body dies you can begin a glorious eternal life and not die. It is salvation from death and freedom from sin.

That is the Good News.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

But what difference should it make to me that God has love in his heart? If God has love in his heart, that may be good news for him, but how is it good news for me?

Greetings. Perhaps you need to focus on the Good-News YHWH sent His Christ JESUS with.

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, and He in like manner did partake to the same, that thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death--that is, the Devil

Revelation 20:10 and the Devil, the one deceiving them, was cast into the lake of the fire and of brimstone/qeiou <2303>, the-where also the wild-beast and the false prophet.

 

[Grapefruit]

GOOD NEWS

The Good News is that when your body dies you can begin a glorious eternal life and not die. It is salvation from death and freedom from sin.

That is the Good News.

This doesn't look right... The good news has something to do with God, and you explained it without mentioning God at all. Your explanation can't be right.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This doesn't look right... The good news has something to do with God, and you explained it without mentioning God at all. Your explanation can't be right.

I believe He was close as YHWH says to the Israelites in Hosea 13:14 which my bro Paul quoted.

The Good News is indeed Life from Death.

Hosea 13:14 "From hand of sh@'owl I shall release/rescue them; from Death I shall Redeem them. Where plagues of you Death?. Where sting of you sh@'owl? Regret shall be hidden from My eyes." [1 Corin 15:55]

Corinthians 7:23 Of value/honor ye are bought/hgorasqhte <59>, no be ye becoming! bond-servents of men.

Reve 5:9 And they are singing a song, new, saying: "Worthy Thou are to be receiving the scrollet and to open-up the seals of it. That Thou was slain/slaughtered and did purchase/hgorasaV <59> to the God [*of us] in the blood of Thee, out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation". [Hosea 13:14]

 

[ticker]

I am told that the good news is that God loves me and forgives me for the wrongs I have done.

A lot of people are told that...but it's only half the good news.

The other half is that apart from the blessings of forgiveness (and thus eternal life and acceptance) you receive from Christ's death, you also have the blessings of an abundant life you receive from Christ's life (...which includes being made more into His image and developing His heart).

You do know that you have the life of Christ now don't you, brother?

Peace

 

[MoNiCa4316]

Brother, God doesn't just love you "in His heart", but in His actions as well, by dying on the Cross for you. And because of this, you can know Him and live forever. If God didn't love us, we wouldn't exist..it's His love that brought us into existence..and it's His love that will bring us into everlasting life. There is no other way. Our whole life depends on God's love. And also, His love is the surest thing there is, even if the everyone we hold dear would stop loving us and leave us, He would not.. He is our Best Friend as well as our Lord. So His love and mercy is our hope, and also our joy and consolation. God bless

 

[sfodz]

You do know that you have the life of Christ now don't you, brother?

That's what I've heard, but it isn't something that I feel, you know? I guess for me personally, maybe I don't understand or comprehend what it really means when God says that I'm forgiven and so on ... I don't think that it's something that I've ever really experienced...

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

I am told that the good news is that God loves me and forgives me for the wrongs I have done.

But what difference should it make to me that God has love in his heart? If God has love in his heart, that may be good news for him, but how is it good news for me? I might be sympathetically happy for him, as I might be if I heard that a famous movie star had a heart of gold -- but why should it be more directly relevant to me? If he hated me, I might pity him and do what I could to help him be rehabilitated, but how could it distress me? Whether, in God's opinion, he loves rather than hates seems to be more properly his private concern and not mine.

I'm finding it hard to get excited about the fact that God forgives me. Please let me know what I'm missing, THX!!!

The good news is more than just that.

The good news, or gospel (Gr. &#949;&#965;&#945;&#947;&#947;&#949;&#955;&#953;&#959;&#957;/euangelion, meaning both good news and gospel) originally meant the announcement that a new emperor had risen to the throne in Rome. When, say, Tiberius succeeded Augustus as emperor of Rome, emissaries of the emperor (&#945;&#960;&#959;&#963;&#964;&#959;&#955;&#959;&#962;/apostlos, meaning emissaries, ambassadors, or apostles) would go out throughout the empire and announce that a new emperor had risen 'to the purple.'

That's precisely what the apostles were doing. They were sent out by our Lord Jesus Christ once he had won back his throne through his crucifixion, resurrection, and especially his ascention (notice that 'ascension' both means 'going up' and 'winning a throne'). So the apostles, ambassadors for the king, thus went out throughout his empire (the whole world, in Christ's case) to announce that there was a new king in town.

The good news, or gospel, is that Christ is king, and he is a good king, and amazing king! He is such a good king, that to win the throne, he died for us, he gave his life in battle against the enemy so that we could all be his subjects and enjoy the fruits of his kingdom. That is the extend of this love of God of which you speak.

The good news? Jesus is Lord! Hallelujah!

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

A lot of people are told that...but it's only half the good news.

The other half is that apart from the blessings of forgiveness (and thus eternal life and acceptance) you receive from Christ's death, you also have the blessings of an abundant life you receive from Christ's life (...which includes being made more into His image and developing His heart).

You do know that you have the life of Christ now don't you, brother?

Looks like you got the emphasis on Christ before I got there (see above). Bravo.

Brother, God doesn't just love you "in His heart", but in His actions as well, by dying on the Cross for you. And because of this, you can know Him and live forever. If God didn't love us, we wouldn't exist..it's His love that brought us into existence..and it's His love that will bring us into everlasting life. There is no other way. Our whole life depends on God's love. And also, His love is the surest thing there is, even if the everyone we hold dear would stop loving us and leave us, He would not.. He is our Best Friend as well as our Lord. So His love and mercy is our hope, and also our joy and consolation. God bless

Exactly right (see above for my scholarly way of putting which you said so much more elegantly). God's love is not static- it is borne of and through his actions.

Like the great theologian Karl Barth said, echoing the words of the Nicene Creed, God is never just or primarily God-in-himself, but is always and must always be 'God for us,' God for us and for our salvation.

 

[ticker]

That's what I've heard, but it isn't something that I feel, you know? I guess for me personally, maybe I don't understand or comprehend what it really means when God says that I'm forgiven and so on ... I don't think that it's something that I've ever really experienced...

Hey bro...

I think what we feel about ourselves may often times confuse what God wants to tell us through His word (...because how we see ourselves is a fleshly pattern carried over from our old, fallen sinful nature). And even though God tries to tell us how we are forgiven, accepted, and new righteous creations in Christ, we have an Ademic habit of wanting to "cover ourselves with leaves" still.

But that's not needed anymore, 'cause the gospel tells us that Christ has given us His life so that we can live accepted and loved before God. Now...all we gotta do is believe it.

Peace

 

[MamaZ]

well Good news is this.. Christ came to save us from our sin.. Now it depends on whether one likes darkness better than light if it is Good news.. For those whom like darkness instead of light like to walk in a life of sin.

 

[squint]

I am told that the good news is that God loves me and forgives me for the wrongs I have done.

But what difference should it make to me that God has love in his heart? If God has love in his heart, that may be good news for him, but how is it good news for me? I might be sympathetically happy for him, as I might be if I heard that a famous movie star had a heart of gold -- but why should it be more directly relevant to me? If he hated me, I might pity him and do what I could to help him be rehabilitated, but how could it distress me? Whether, in God's opinion, he loves rather than hates seems to be more properly his private concern and not mine.

I'm finding it hard to get excited about the fact that God forgives me. Please let me know what I'm missing, THX!!!

You're right in many of your observations. Why should it make any difference to YOU as in individual what some other 'Being' thinks, says or does?

And as another 'being' myself, I agree. What you think, say or do for the most part remains apart from my 'personal subjectivity.'

Now you or I can say in our individual forms of personal subjectivity that none of this matters or that all of it matters. That contemplation is an open range for each of us to roam in. For example, you may think that nothing the 'government' or 'governments' do affect you, and I may think that 'everything' the government(s) do affects me. Again, personal subjectivity as to 'relationship.'

Are those 'affects' then 'real,' 'imaginary' or 'irrelevant?'

The differences are defined by how we as individuals RELATE to the matters in question and that is an INDIVIDUALLY SUBJECTIVE RELATIONSHIP.

In the economy (general methodologies) of God none of our own individually personally subjective methodologies will matter one whit. If God chooses to draw you into a relationship with Himself, then that will be done. If God chooses to draw out resistance in you with a relationship with Himself, then that that will be done.

And all the while you may not realize one way or the other what is transpiring.

As a (personally subjective) believer I do know some things that I (again personally subjectively) view as 'universal' in construct. For example if I don't agree that the law of gravity has any effect on me, it really doesn't matter one whit. Certain things of these natures remain facts whether or not we acknowledge them or how 'we' individually subjectively' view them.

1 Corinthians 6:20
For ye are bought with a price

1 Corinthians 7:23
Ye are bought with a price

From this believers perspective, God will do with you exactly as HE pleases, whether you know it or not, realize it or not, relate to Him or His workings or not, try to outguess those moves or not. Whatever transpires in you will be exactly as He has determined and whatever transpires SERVES HIS EXACT PURPOSES with 'you' and also with 'all things.'

Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Your individual 'subjectivity' is a pleasure to God no matter what your individual 'subjectivity' consists of. HE will extract HIS PLEASURE from all of these things.

enjoy!

squint

 

[BrotherDave]

I am told that the good news is that God loves me and forgives me for the wrongs I have done.

But what difference should it make to me that God has love in his heart? If God has love in his heart, that may be good news for him, but how is it good news for me? I might be sympathetically happy for him, as I might be if I heard that a famous movie star had a heart of gold -- but why should it be more directly relevant to me? If he hated me, I might pity him and do what I could to help him be rehabilitated, but how could it distress me? Whether, in God's opinion, he loves rather than hates seems to be more properly his private concern and not mine.

I'm finding it hard to get excited about the fact that God forgives me. Please let me know what I'm missing, THX!!!

God created us in his image to live forever with him. But He gave us rules to live by and tells us if we sin we will die physically and spiritually. Every single human being has sin in his life and we are all guilty and deserve God’s wrath.

Now out of God’s love and mercy he chooses to forgive those he wants to (Eph 1:4-13,1 Peter 2:9) and Christ came to assume the guilt of those people and die on their behalf because the price had to be paid. When Christ died on the cross Satan was also bound and evil restrained, if it was not who knows what kind of world this would have become. If God had no love in his heart the whole human race would be doomed.

It’s not about how we feel for him. By our nature we do not love him as he defines love (Rom 3:10). We lust after sin and God hates sin and the sinner (Psalm 5:5, Psalm 11:5).

If Christ paid for all the sins of a person then God loves that person and will bring him closer to himself through the gospel. That person will find an increasing desire to know about God and begin searching and reading scripture, praying and then God will give that person a new soul or heart. From that point on that person truly does good works, loves God and truly repents. He grows in grace and understanding and feels deeply disturbed when falling into even the smallest sin (1 john 2:3).

The fact is most people in the world love sin and will not get excited about the love of God. They also are not concerned about eternity, maybe they have heard God loves everyone, maybe they were baptized with water and figure everything is good. Unfortunately this all out of the minds men and will not result in salvation (2 Tim 4:3).

Just as we are born into this world through no action on our part so are we born into the kingdom of God. God does all the work. It is hard to image a love so great as His. Christ had to assume the death penalty for every person God gave him (John 6:37).

The wonderful thing is anyone can be one God’s elect. If someone finds an increasing desire to understand God and his salvation plan God may be working in the life of that individual. The best thing that person (or anyone for that matter) can do is spend time reading the bible and praying for understanding. This is the environment in which God will reveal his love (Romans 10:17, Ro 8:16).

 

[Grapefruit]

I see what you are saying, but I think that if God stopped loving me and started hating me; if he stopped blessing me and started cursing me -- I think I would get over it. If his hatred can mean so little to me, then how could his love mean more?

Value remains, whether God loves Jacob or hates Esau. Virtue remains whether God blesses the blind man or curses the fig tree. That seems like better news than the news that God is willing to forgive me rather than count my sins against me.

What would be really good news is that I myself had love rather than hatred in my heart.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

Grapefruit, we do not know how it's like to be hated by God, because He has never hated us. If we were hated by Him, we would probably die.. it is God who keeps us and the whole world in existence.

What would be really good news is that I myself had love rather than hatred in my heart.

well brother all love has its ultimate origin in God, and the more we know Him and His love, the more loving we become towards others Christ said that His followers would be known by their love, He also said that we can't do anything apart from Him..put the two together..
it's precisely because God has so loved us, that we're ABLE to love Him back, or love others in the same way.

God bless

 

[spiritman]

It has been good news for many!

Orphans, brought into the family of God through the blood of Jesus Christ. We are now brothers and sisters who work together to fulfill our Father's purpose.​

Click Here: Listen to the Gospel that saved us

 

[ticker]

Let's put it this way....it's in no way bad news.