Whenever you feel this way, pray! Whenever you feel guilty, pray! Whenever you want to tell God you're sorry, do! When you want God to take these thoughts away, ask! If you don't seek God immediately, the thoughts will control you. Ask God for miracles, don't just wait for them to happen. Pray and pray, like David did when he was holed up in that cave. As soon as David felt a certain way, he prayed. Allow yourself to despair at the feet of God. Also remember what God wants for you is: Love. Pray for love, tell yourself that you deserve love and a healthy sexuality. Above all, BELIEVE in this. You can have the happiness you want, but you won't find it if you don't believe it exists. Even if a healthy sexuality seems like it's on the other side of a mountain for you, believe that God has it locked away safely for you for that time when you are ready. Pray!
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How I overcome various sexual problems and how you should too!
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I prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed,and prayed and nothing happened. what do you say about that?
Have you wonder if He wants you to try and overcome your problems with the help of others, and not JUST Him?
just a thought
Have you wonder if He wants you to try and overcome your problems with the help of others, and not JUST Him?
just a thought
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I say you're creating an argument that doesn't need to be had. Of course, prayer for personal change is only useful if we are making a concerted effort to listen to the Holy Spirit's suggestions. Why would I be against seeking help from others?
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speaking of prayers. let us encourage everyone. some prayers are answered right away. some prayers are answered through time and lessons learned. sometimes we need to learn other lessons first; or re-learn our old habits into new ways. everyone's trial is different. everyone learns differently. the key with prayer, is to surround yourself with resources that support your decision to stop any behaviors. for some people the bible is their resource. some, prayer and promise alone. some people need accountability partners or programs. some people need counseling. some people need it all.
don't be ashamed of the amount of resources you need. try not to be discouraged when trials don't work out the way you exspect. the Lord has a plan for all of us. you want to get there, and He wants to help you get there.
so, surround yourself with the resources you need. call it your armor. the sword of the spirit; the bible, prayer, your spiritual family, counsel, accountability, etc.
~ love dee
don't be ashamed of the amount of resources you need. try not to be discouraged when trials don't work out the way you exspect. the Lord has a plan for all of us. you want to get there, and He wants to help you get there.
so, surround yourself with the resources you need. call it your armor. the sword of the spirit; the bible, prayer, your spiritual family, counsel, accountability, etc.
~ love dee
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shye, I think what you said is antagonistic to say the least. I am not against people seeking help.
...and prayer isn't a cure, it's a conversation. You are asking God for help and you must still make decisions to change your life.
...and prayer isn't a cure, it's a conversation. You are asking God for help and you must still make decisions to change your life.
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Sorry bro you are wrong, I prayed and the Lord heard my cry for help and set in course a sequence of events which spanned out over many years and which over time led me to more and more freedom (I was struggling with hidden homosexuality). As goldenviolet I was in the process of learning many lessons, both through growing maturity as a man and powerfull direct instruction from the Holy Spirit after I gave my life to the Lord in '94. This was when I really started to break free big time.
1 John 2 v 27
And as for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as the anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and not a lie, and just as it has tought you abide in Him.
This is why it is so paramount for someone to be first "born again in Christ" After this you will get the gift from God of the Holy Spirit who will lead and guide you in all truth. Plus... better still He will remind you of past lessions tought that you might otherwise forget. The Holy Spirit keeps us in rembarance of what He has tought us.
I was just about completely free in the autumn of 95 and it was the best thing ever. Though in fact I had started battling it some years earler - but kinda hit a glass roof until after I gave my life to the Lord. This involved what I was thinking when I gratyfied the flesh. It just felt wrong. I hated thinking/fantazing like this - it took some time to stop. But I did not realise that by stopping doing this I was taking the second step after stopping porn along the long road to freedom from homosexuality, this was even befour I gave my life to the Lord but I am convinced that did not stop God starting His wonderful work on me by giving me a conviction of my sin a few years earler. A conviction of sin is the very first work of the Holy Spirit.
However depite this new found freedom I did not follow it up with truth and stopped attending church which gave the devil a foothold yet again and I was led back into this sin for a time in 06 - paradoxically thought the gateway which heterosexual pornography provided. This is why I try so hard to encourage all those who struggle, of the seriousness of doing ANY type of porn at all. I can even now, like I was Monday still get tempted to look at general heteresexuall porn. My focus over the last eight monthes has been heavily upon beating the other stuff. I would like to expand much more on my the above theme but I'm just so short of time at the moment.
Take heart - HOMOSEXUALITY CAN BE OVER COME! Sorry for shouting - but I was shouting with enthusiasm, excitement, and as a message of hope! It is one of satans biggest lies this sin cannot be beaten.
Trust a Christians opinion on this and not that which comes from the world. Listening to what the world thinks/says on this, is like fighting in the last world war and listening to Lord Horhor "Germany calling etc " you will only get more lies, confusion and plenty of propaganda, thats a fact!
Satan uses the realms of the propoganda for much of the time against the Christian who is battling homosexuality, you will discover this more and more as you get more experienced in fighting the enermy. Each fall is garanteed to genarate the predictable responce "See you are never going to change etc." It really needs a close walk with the Lord, and a determined will to keep pushing forward no matter what, despite that endless raging lust. This is in essance what is is like to be a soldier in real life and fight on the battel field.
It has to be done step by step - as you would taking a journey, or another way to see it, as overcomming it in incramental stages. The first step is beating homosexuall pornography addiction. Due to the highly adddictive nature of this type of pornography drastic measures may often be nessasery. But the growing freedom you begine to feel later on, will make you wonder why you did not start the journey sooner - said with encouragement of course!
God bless you all
Barnabas
P.S. that was meant to be a five line reply. What happened?
should have been done through word as well sorry for the dreadful spelling.
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hey lovely peeps! mod hat needs to be put on. we want you to know that we've had to remove some flames. !!!??? recovery is support. how can it be fruitful while tearing eachother's thoughts up? let's be of one mind. support and recovery. think of it this way; what better way to display the fruits of the spirit.
and, our lovely peeps
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Ephesians 2:20-22
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
closing thread to catch your attention and help us get through the unapproved posts. please be pacient with staff. thank you. ~ love dee
!!!??? recovery is support. how can it be fruitful while tearing eachother's thoughts up? let's be of one mind. support and recovery. think of it this way; what better way to display the fruits of the spirit.and, our lovely peeps
:Ephesians 2:20-22
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
closing thread to catch your attention and help us get through the unapproved posts. please be pacient with staff. thank you. ~ love dee
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Mod Hat on.
Just adding that staff have decided to leave this thread closed. It is important that we keep Recovery free from debates. This area needs to be a safe place for people to come and ask for encouragement and receive it without being concerned about a debate breaking out, or have a helping fellow member feel like an opponent instead.
Ethical discussions and debates can be held in Christian Philosophy and Ethics or in Ethics and Morality.
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