How Homophobic Are You?

[KCKID]

To marksman315,
I wouldnt worry about being homophobic from what you have said, I am sure I am by dictionary definition anyway despite the questionaire. As long as one loves homosexuals its good to be homophobic.

I find it hard to believe that one's aim is so good that a Christian can target 'the sin' without hitting the 'sinner' with the same arrow.

 

[Sitswithamouse]

6 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic."

 

[brightmorningstar]

To KCKID,

I find it hard to believe that one's aim is so good that a Christian can target 'the sin' without hitting the 'sinner' with the same arrow.

But thats what a Christian is, one who knows this is possible because they have had their sin forgiven and they have the hope of Glory. Take 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as an example on this very issue.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

To marksman315,
I wouldnt worry about being homophobic from what you have said, I am sure I am by dictionary definition anyway despite the questionaire. As long as one loves homosexuals its good to be homophobic.

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

To KCKID,
But thats what a Christian is, one who knows this is possible because they have had their sin forgiven and they have the hope of Glory. Take 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as an example on this very issue.

Luke 6:41

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Checkmate.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To EnemyPartyII,

Luke 6:41

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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Checkmate.

In what way?
I am talking about a Christian knowing they have had their sin forgiven through repentance and faith in Christ, and they have the hope of Glory with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as an example on this very issue.

Surely Luke 6:41 is about self righteousness of expecting someone else to repent and not oneself to.

 

[Andreusz]

I got a 10 -- same as RegularGuy. I notice that quite a few STRAIGHT people got lower (more non-homophobic) scores than I did -- I don't know what this says!

I don't buy this "love the sinner, hate the sin" thing, at least, not with regard to homosexuality. Our sexual desires are deeply ingrained into us, and are extremely important parts of our personalities.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

To EnemyPartyII,
In what way?
I am talking about a Christian knowing they have had their sin forgiven through repentance and faith in Christ, and they have the hope of Glory with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as an example on this very issue.

Surely Luke 6:41 is about self righteousness of expecting someone else to repent and not oneself to.

Read Luke 6:42... it pretty clearly tells us not to go around pontificating on the sins of others before we've sorted out our own sinfulness.

So, you sinned today? If so, you got no place telling anyone else about what you consider to be their sins. The Bible says so.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To EnemypartyII
Then you should not do so, you should practice what you preach. All I am doing is talking about what the Bible calls sin and talking about a Christian knowing they have had their sin forgiven through repentance and faith in Christ, and they have the hope of Glory with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as an example on this very issue. If you have others in mind then say who you think they are and what the plank and specks are. We are called to restore other believers from sin Galatians 6.

So, you sinned today? If so, you got no place telling anyone else about what you consider to be their sins. The Bible says so.

I am not telling anyone else what I consider to be their sins, I am referring to what God’s word says about a certain sin.

 

[D.W.Washburn]

To marksman315,
I wouldnt worry about being homophobic from what you have said, I am sure I am by dictionary definition anyway despite the questionaire. As long as one loves homosexuals its good to be homophobic.

The dictionary definition of homophobia is ": irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

It is impossible to be a dictionary homophobe and "love homosexuals."

There is nothing "good" in irrational fear, aversion or discrimination.

 

[brightmorningstar]

The dictionary definition of homophobia is ": irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

It is impossible to be a dictionary homophobe and "love homosexuals."

I agree you are correct with the definition, this does seem to be the usual definition.
However homosexuality from the same dictionary also includes
erotic activity with another of the same sex
Such activity is error and quite natural to have an aversion to it, so although overall I agree with you except that I must have an element of homophobia.

There is nothing "good" in irrational fear, aversion or discrimination.

yes there is something, an aversion to erotic activity between men is healthy and good because it shows one knows it is error.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

There is fear based squarely on rational thought. Such is the aversion to homosexuality. Until the rise of Humanism's influence on the educational system to indoctrinate youth (students) into a secular perspective on everything, gay sex was not pop culture except in very seedy places. Avoidance of seedy places is based squarely on rational fear. Avoidane of people that teach seedy sexual practices is also a good choice based on rational thought.

We now have perversion taught as a civil right. Oddly enough, that is the Biblical position on the subject. But the two sides (secular humanism and Christian reality) are moving in far different agendas.

 

[Zaac]

Read Luke 6:42... it pretty clearly tells us not to go around pontificating on the sins of others before we've sorted out our own sinfulness.

So, you sinned today? If so, you got no place telling anyone else about what you consider to be their sins. The Bible says so.

15. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 1 Cor. 2:15


The Bible says no such thing. God has called His people to RIGHTEOUSLY judge all things. There's no need to pontificate on sins because they are what they are.

And if someone is committing a sin, we are called of God to point it out, Ezekiel 3:18, unless we are guilty of committing THE SAME(not just any other) sin.

 

[D.W.Washburn]

I agree you are correct with the definition, this does seem to be the usual definition.
However homosexuality from the same dictionary also includes
erotic activity with another of the same sex
Such activity is error and quite natural to have an aversion to it, so although overall I agree with you except that I must have an element of homophobia.

yes there is something, an aversion to erotic activity between men is healthy and good because it shows one knows it is error.

Actually an aversion to same sex erotic activity, coupled with an attraction to members of the opposite sex, shows that one is heterosexual in orientation. It doesn't show anything about a knowledge of error.

And when one feels a similar aversion to erotic activity with members of the opposite sex, coupled with attraction to the same sex, it shows that they are homosexual in orientation.

Orientation is a given, and, the best research indicates that it is determined before birth. Orientation in and of itself is morally neutral. It is neither good nor bad. Sexual acts have a moral component and ethics comes into play here.

I also firmly believe that it is not good to be irrationally afraid or averse to anything. There are rational fears and aversions. Homophobia is, by dictionary definition, not one of them.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Such activity is error and quite natural to have an aversion to it, so although overall I agree with you except that I must have an element of homophobia.

It is indeed natural for YOU to have an aversion to it. You are heterosexual. Just as it is quite natural for me to have an aversion to thoughts about being sexually intimate with any woman. (no offense, ladies. I think you rock!)

However, please do not project your aversion to sexual activity with another male on me or onto any other gay man. For us, it's totally natural - just as God designed it.

The more one thinks about it, it becomes clearer that the "aversion to homosexuality" is more an ego trip for insecure straight males than anything else. Prideful and arrogant in the extreme.

"There is nothing "good" in irrational fear, aversion or discrimination."
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yes there is something, an aversion to erotic activity between men is healthy and good because it shows one knows it is error.

Convoluted "reasoning"...once again...in the extreme.

Does this mean that my aversion to sex with women is healthy because it shows me that "it is in error?"

 

[marksman315]

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[KCKID]

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Would you care to repeat that?

 

[Avatar]

Actually an aversion to same sex erotic activity, coupled with an attraction to members of the opposite sex, shows that one is heterosexual in orientation. It doesn't show anything about a knowledge of error.

And when one feels a similar aversion to erotic activity with members of the opposite sex, coupled with attraction to the same sex, it shows that they are homosexual in orientation.

Orientation is a given, and, the best research indicates that it is determined before birth. Orientation in and of itself is morally neutral. It is neither good nor bad. Sexual acts have a moral component and ethics comes into play here.

I also firmly believe that it is not good to be irrationally afraid or averse to anything. There are rational fears and aversions. Homophobia is, by dictionary definition, not one of them.

And what about me? I have an aversion to any PDAs by other folks regardless of orientation. Is two guys making out something I'd rather not see? Uhuh. Guy and a girl too, equally. Just me. And I guess that's why I scored a 13 instead of a zero. I could care less what someone's orientation is - just don't want to see tonsil hockey from anyone, lol.

The only other thing that makes me uncomfortable with gay folk is when you initially learn their gay. There is a moment there where he/she is wondering how you'll react and I know at that time I'm under scrutiny to see if I'm a homophobe or not. I don't like that, I don't do well when I think someone is trying to figure me out - I'm all awkward. There's no way around it - it's a reality in our society - since the prejudice exists people are on guard for it. Once we get past that moment, all is good.

I started work at a new workplace 2 months back, and at first you know nobody. But I've made a goodly number of friends there, and 2 really good ones in my estimation. One of the two is gay, and I really like this woman. The 'oh, you're gay' bump in the relationship passed super smooth, she knew right away I wasn't a phobe. And now sharing workspace and breaks with her makes work all the more enjoyable.

 

[KCKID]

And what about me? I have an aversion to any PDAs by other folks regardless of orientation. Is two guys making out something I'd rather not see? Uhuh. Guy and a girl too, equally. Just me. And I guess that's why I scored a 13 instead of a zero. I could care less what someone's orientation is - just don't want to see tonsil hockey from anyone, lol.

The only other thing that makes me uncomfortable with gay folk is when you initially learn their gay. There is a moment there where he/she is wondering how you'll react and I know at that time I'm under scrutiny to see if I'm a homophobe or not. I don't like that, I don't do well when I think someone is trying to figure me out - I'm all awkward. There's no way around it - it's a reality in our society - since the prejudice exists people are on guard for it. Once we get past that moment, all is good.

I started work at a new workplace 2 months back, and at first you know nobody. But I've made a goodly number of friends there, and 2 really good ones in my estimation. One of the two is gay, and I really like this woman. The 'oh, you're gay' bump in the relationship passed super smooth, she knew right away I wasn't a phobe. And now sharing workspace and breaks with her makes work all the more enjoyable.

Good post. I'm sure there are any number of us who can relate to the above.

As much as I might be anti 'anti-gay', I don't feel comfortable with those of either sexual pursuasion putting on a public display of their feelings that might, perhaps, be better a private affair. But, that's MY problem, I guess, and not theirs.

 

[Zaac]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/etc/quiz.html

19 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic."

Well I tried desperately to get a 100 and finally did. This little survey does nothing but show the prejudice of gay people against those who agree with God's Word about the sin of homosexual acts.

If we replaced every instance of gay or homosexual with something else, would it make people phobic of that thing too?