How Does This Happen in America?!

[miamited]

Wars and conflicts around the globe means protection to the US. Whether it is against a direct or indirect threat, it's still in effort of the protection of people both here and abroad.

Such an anti-American post with such disrespect for people serving in the military gets you top billing on my ignore list.

Hi jimmy,

That again is your choice. However, I hope that you're wise enough to understand that I am not anti-American. I enjoy and appreciate the life that the Lord has afforded me to be born as a member of this great nation, but...

Neither am I blinded by some patriotic sentiment that causes blindness to the truth because of some love of country. This is a great nation, but there are a lot of things that aren't so great about it either. The fact that thousands upon thousands of people are murdered in our cities and towns every year isn't particularly great. The fact that we tend to pander to many causes and ideas that are in conflict with God's will for us isn't particularly great. But, overall, the United States is one of the better places for people to live out their lives here upon the earth. There are other nations of people that are also great nations. Canada, Great Britain, Japan and many, many other nations are great places for people to live out their lives here upon the earth.

So, feel free to set my name on your ignore list. I'm not much concerned that you read my posts anyway. If you want to fine and we can have dialogue, or you can just go on with your life without any input from me. That's ok with me.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[miamited]

Hi jimmy,

I'll write this for others to read concerning my understanding since you're likely not reading it anyway.

You responded:

Wars and conflicts around the globe means protection to the US.

That just really isn't a true statement concerning all of the conflicts that we embroil ourselves in. I do understand the kind of blind patriotism that makes someone think that way, but it just isn't a true statement. The war in Vietnam is likely one of the greatest examples of that statement not being a true statement. It might be worthwhile for you to update your understanding of how and why the United States got into Vietnam on the first day that we sent military troops to that area of the world. Why did we go into Vietnam. What actually was happening in North Vietnam at the time that directly or indirectly affected the freedom of the citizens of the United States. What was gained by fighting that war which we basically lost? Vietnam won the battle and got to do whatever it was that they wanted to do in the beginning that started the conflict and still, right here in the good ole USofA we are somehow able to live the lives that we do without some interference or backlash or connected consequence from that war. How is that possible if that war was fought to protect some American interest and we lost?

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[RDKirk]

The war in Vietnam is likely one of the greatest examples of that statement not being a true statement. It might be worthwhile for you to update your understanding of how and why the United States got into Vietnam on the first day that we sent military troops to that area of the world. Why did we go into Vietnam. What actually was happening in North Vietnam at the time that directly or indirectly affected the freedom of the citizens of the United States. What was gained by fighting that war which we basically lost? Vietnam won the battle and got to do whatever it was that they wanted to do in the beginning that started the conflict and still, right here in the good ole USofA we are somehow able to live the lives that we do without some interference or backlash or connected consequence from that war. How is that possible if that war was fought to protect some American interest and we lost?

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

A significant thing is that WWII ended with Vietnam being pro-US. Having been a colony of France prior to the war, they had been allies with the Allies against Japan during the war. Believing in all that "independence" stuff they heard about the United States, they were certain that the United States would grant them their independence in return for their alliance.

Didn't happen. Instead, the US decided to return the world to the state it was in prior to the war--returning colonies back to their European masters.

The pro-independence factions in Vietnam were socialist-leaning, but like Castro, they wanted to be in the pocket of the US, not the USSR. They would have been socialists, but they would have been pro-American socialists (and didn't really see why that should bother the US).

So after a whole lot of money and time and blood, they are slowly getting to that position (as will Cuba).

 

[Zoii]

Looks like he got a free meal. Score!

Back in 1973, I got called a "babykiller."

What was that like for you. I mean the war in vietnam if you were from USA...u must have been like...what on earth am I doing here, why am I fighting these people...yet on the other hand u had a job to do.... n then got hammered when u got back home ... must have been very messy for u

 

[Kit Sigmon]

If I witnessed this in person. . .

If I witnessed this in person. . .

I don't know, for some reason it seems staged?

 

[RaymondG]

I don't know, for some reason it seems staged?

It doesn't really matter. The author of this thread is just trying to strengthen your ability to see, feel and point out negativity... for this goal, real and fake content will work interchangeably.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I don't know, for some reason it seems staged?

Could be, but that really doesn't change the conversation here.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

You dont agree with Philipians 4:8 do you?

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Seems like you like trying to get us to see and think negative of people and situations.

You are being silly. The rude woman created a negative situation. And, being rude is negative.

1 Corinthians 13:5 [Full Chapter]
Love is not rude, it is not selfish, and it cannot be made angry easily. Love does not remember wrongs done against it.

Proverbs 9:12
If you become wise, it will be for your own good. If you are rude and show no respect, you are the one who will suffer.

Proverbs 9:7
Criticize a person who is rude and shows no respect, and you will only get insults.

Proverbs 19:25
Punish a rude, arrogant person, and even slow learners will become wiser. But just a little correction is enough to teach a person who has understanding.

Romans 1:30
and say evil things about each other. They hate God. They are rude, proud, and brag about themselves. They invent ways of doing evil. They don’t obey their parents,

 

[marineimaging]

Looks like he got a free meal. Score!

Back in 1973, I got called a "babykiller."

Well, you weren't. We were the product of a satanic overthrow of America and those who did that in those days know better. Unfortunately they can't apologize.

 

[Open Heart]

You had one person who was rude to him, but two people who stepped in not only to give him a discount, but a FREE MEAL.

 

[miamited]

A significant thing is that WWII ended with Vietnam being pro-US. Having been a colony of France prior to the war, they had been allies with the Allies against Japan during the war. Believing in all that "independence" stuff they heard about the United States, they were certain that the United States would grant them their independence in return for their alliance.

Didn't happen. Instead, the US decided to return the world to the state it was in prior to the war--returning colonies back to their European masters.

The pro-independence factions in Vietnam were socialist-leaning, but like Castro, they wanted to be in the pocket of the US, not the USSR. They would have been socialists, but they would have been pro-American socialists (and didn't really see why that should bother the US).

So after a whole lot of money and time and blood, they are slowly getting to that position (as will Cuba).

Hi rdkirk,

I agree. I concur. However, the point was whether or not that conflict was about protecting Americans. As you seem to have clearly shown in your response, it wasn't. Vietnam is still basically a communist nation as is now the area that was once known as South Vietnam. The North Vietnamese ran us out of there and took control of South Vietnam. Yet still, here in the good ole USofA we live a life of pretty much the same free nation that we lived before the Vietnam conflict.

Now, please don't get me wrong. I did support the Vietnam war as it was being fought. But my only point here is that it really had nothing to do with securing or maintaining any American rights or freedoms. It was a war that we fought because we felt some obligation to go to bat for the South Vietnamese. I don't have any problem with that position.

Of course, that is not to say that the conflicts we become embroiled in are never about protecting American freedoms. The Revolutionary war and the Civil war and both of the World Wars were efforts to see to it that we had the freedoms that we enjoyed and that Germany didn't get to take over the world and rob us of those freedoms. Those wars were fought by good soldiers, many of whom gave up their lives, so that we wouldn't be threatened with the loss of our freedoms. Today's wars are also fought by good and brave men and women, many of whom give of their very lives, in these conflicts. But, the end game is often not about our losing our freedoms or nationality.

I hope that no one takes from my comments here that I don't appreciate what our soldiers do for us. I do. I often tell men and women that I see in uniform while out and about, "Thank you for what you do." I just want to be clear and honest in my understanding of the many wars that we become embroiled in and what the real end game in doing so, is. I support most of the things we do militarily as a nation, but I'm also pragmatic enough to know that many of those engagements aren't really about protecting American freedoms. They're more about our being the mighty military strength of the world and using that military strength to fight a lot of other people's battles. I don't have a problem with that.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[J.T.]

Don't get me wrong, I respect soldiers. However I also believe sometimes we put them on pedastools and treat them better then we do God. Of course I have nothing wrong with military discounts of course. The lady needed to get a life instead of asking such a question.

Agree with what you said. The lady needs to get a life.

However, I would just add that people in this country are naive to think that soldiers are protecting us by being in a war in the Middle East. We are not free because a bunch of soldiers are over there killing some other country's soldiers. That's just stupid.

The only people who benefit from these wars are war profiteers and globalists.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If I witnessed this in person. . .

I'm wondering how asking for a military discount can be equated with an act of rudeness. Hmmmm? Hmmmmm? Excuse me everyone while I go into my Winnie-the-Pooh thinking mode to figure this one out.

Or, does one have to be a card-carrying socialist (or Communist) in order for her comment to make sense?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Agree with what you said. The lady needs to get a life.

However, I would just add that people in this country are naive to think that soldiers are protecting us by being in a war in the Middle East. We are not free because a bunch of soldiers are over there killing some other country's soldiers. That's just stupid.

The only people who benefit from these wars are war profiteers and globalists.

Where do you live?

 

[1miraclechild]

If I witnessed this in person. . .

No Jimmy but Praise the Lord that was an Amazing Manager that came up to Register & Refunded the U.S. Military Man's Meal Was It Not?
God bless you & We love you
;-) Rebecca

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

To be fair, there are other groups that get benefits like AARP means you get discounts on things too. Or in my case I have a free diability pass for any american park which gets me in for free. And by park I mean the big ones....well heres what it says:
"The Access Pass is a free, lifetime pass available to United States citizens or permanent residents, regardless of age, that have a permanent disability. The pass can be used at over 2000 Federal recreation sites across the nation, including National Parks, National Wildlife Refuges, and many National Forest lands."

So really lots of people get discounts on things.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

..... Owned!

 

[EdyChristian28]

to be honest America is hitting a new low. it does every 5 or 6 years.

a winner being called a loser
someone being persecuted for trying to improve themselves
or even having shame. that's normal. having shame. it means a person has humanity or a conscience.

Netflix is riddled with anime that has these things called lolies. adult men watch it.
but I enough said.

heres a tidbit to put it in perspective


wear cool clothes to find out
there isn't cool people
"Money is cool"
that isn't a cool statement
japan, no I just found out japan isn't cool
sure lolies, we feed them to the nerds to keep them
in their place

laugh at me for making wise realizations

 

[BrotherDave]

First, a general comment about war and picking our battles....We cannot ignore or compromise with acts of evil. Evil will expand far and fast. It will continue until someone stops the advance or destroys it. Why do we have to wait until the evil reaches American soil to take action? I’m all for protecting our own shores first and not intervening in other countries struggles; but when crimes against humanity continually occur on a mass scale it is our moral duty to step in. One would think other nations would also share in this moral responsibility. When this evil grows and particularly involves weapons of mass destruction the threat to America also increases. One of the prime reasons for testing rockets, missiles, and chemical weapons is to find their weakness and improve them. Give them a longer range, determine how far they can travel until detected or increase their effectiveness. Or maybe the “evil” just wants to see how far it can go until “good” decides to do something… In the case of Syria for example, perhaps Mr Putin is learning from these events? Perhaps the US should have entered the world wars a lot sooner. Millions of lost lives probably would have been prevented.

In regards to the video I applaud the manager and support the soldier. God established a chain of command and appoints rulers and protectors of citizenry. This includes governments, police, and soldiers… (Ro 13). We should respect this distribution of power and “pay tribute” to them as long as they are not forcing us to break the commandments of God.

I bet that lady would have bought the soldier a meal if he had prevented something bad from happening to her just prior to that moment. But I guess it is easy, especially in America, to take things for granted under the blanket of freedom the military provides.