An omnipotent god needs time to do something? Why wouldn't that god just start out creating people that way, instead of setting up a hell for the first, flawed version of humans? Seems horribly immoral.
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Assuming there's a process that takes time for God to create such beings, who's to say He's not doing that right now?
go figure, you get away with wrongfully claiming things about others all the time, but in this case, all I said is that you seemed to be misrepresenting again, no wrong accusation in that.Showing me how I have "twisted" another person's argument is against the rules, but wrongfully claiming that I have done so isn't against the rules?
What have I wrongfully claimed? What have I misrepresented? Either demonstrate the misrepresentation or retract your claim and apologise.go figure, you get away with wrongfully claiming things about others all the time, but in this case, all I said is that you seemed to be misrepresenting again, no wrong accusation in that.
we can say all kinds of things, but the quote you are responding to pointed out that scripture says that God created hell for Satan and his demons. It's a pretty straight forward comment, a bit hard to misunderstand I would think.
Why would it be any more immoral than evolution for example, where we keep reinventing life so to speak? Or any more or less immoral than aborting babies or killing cops because some black punk got killed trying to avoid arrest? I don't get your claim here is another way to say the same thing. God isn't about morality, we talked about that, He is about justice. If justice is allowing for an evolution of humanity, how would that be immoral in any way?An omnipotent god needs time to do something? Why wouldn't that god just start out creating people that way, instead of setting up a hell for the first, flawed version of humans? Seems horribly immoral.
what about all the atheists turned christian? Like our friend from church? I don't see any connection between the quoted poster and your comment, please explain the connection so we can follow your argument
way old news, already forgivenWhat have I wrongfully claimed? What have I misrepresented? Either demonstrate the misrepresentation or retract your claim and apologise.
agreed, it is off topic, but my only comment was to correct what was said with what scripture clearly says. Anything else about hell is off topic and not open for debate here which is why I didn't answer the one question you asked about Satan and choice.Agreed.
The atheist will ask "Why would an all loving God create a place of never ending torment?" It's a good question and we need to have the right answer. I'm still questioning the right answer because there are many different ways to interpret the scripture that say 'eternal punishment' and what that was really intended to mean.
Not the appropriate thread for this discussion, maybe another time we can discuss it
thanks, that helps, so who do you think you were getting an answer from?The poster had talked about praying to god. As a Christian, I prayed to god. Now I realize that I had no reason to believe that I was actually getting an answer from a god.
That's the connection.
since this seems to be intended to goad me into some flaming war, it is being ignored.What's already forgiven?
An omnipotent god needs time to do something? Why wouldn't that god just start out creating people that way, instead of setting up a hell for the first, flawed version of humans? Seems horribly immoral.
I'm still waiting for your apology. You claimed that I "twisted" something, and that I misrepresented something. You can't back up those claims up now, so I'm expecting an apology. There is no goading, since that would obviously accomplish nothing. All I'm asking you to do is to substantiate your claims about my alleged misrepresentations of others or apologise for making such a claim against me.since this seems to be intended to goad me into some flaming war, it is being ignored.
Why would a any government that created prisons as threat to stop people or make them think twice from doing bad things that affect the lives of the innocent, be worthy of pledging allegiance too?
agreed, it is off topic, but my only comment was to correct what was said with what scripture clearly says. Anything else about hell is off topic and not open for debate here which is why I didn't answer the one question you asked about Satan and choice.
So, big G God, meaning a real God not a man made god...give me a moment to review the question so I am sure to answer it and not how I remember it...you asked...It read there, clearly.
Why would it be any more immoral than evolution for example, where we keep reinventing life so to speak?
Or any more or less immoral than aborting babies or killing cops because some black punk got killed trying to avoid arrest?
I don't get your claim here is another way to say the same thing. God isn't about morality, we talked about that, He is about justice. If justice is allowing for an evolution of humanity, how would that be immoral in any way?
thanks, that helps, so who do you think you were getting an answer from?
All non-evidenced claims are equal. So I can say "you're wrong about all your god claims" and it holds the same weight as your god claims.
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