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how does it "lessen" her role?

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Many on here have attempted to explain it many times.




A woman who is known by a man, is no longer physically pure. If you cannot comprehend this, then you cannot comprehend Mary's role.

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Why may I ask are they not physically pure? This is how God created us to be from the beginning. He blessed them and said it is GOOD. Now someone comes along and says that being married makes us physically impure? Now where in scripture do you find this? We married women are as pure as any virgin. For it is Christ alone that makes us Pure. Not what we do or don't do.
 
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Many on here have attempted to explain it many times.




A woman who is known by a man, is no longer physically pure. If you cannot comprehend this, then you cannot comprehend Mary's role.

Love,
Christina
you basically are calling impure what God called good, and pure.

strange, that.
 
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you basically are calling impure what God called good, and pure.

strange, that.

It is interesting how a secular dictionary defines pure differently than you do.


pure


pure
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/pyʊər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pyoo
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r] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective, pur·er, pur·est. 1.free from anything of a different, inferior, or contaminating kind; free from extraneous matter: pure gold; pure water. 2.unmodified by an admixture; simple or homogeneous. 3.of unmixed descent or ancestry: a pure breed of dog. 4.free from foreign or inappropriate elements: pure Attic Greek. 5.clear; free from blemishes: pure skin. 6.(of literary style) straightforward; unaffected. 7.abstract or theoretical (opposed to applied): pure science. 8.without any discordant quality; clear and true: pure tones in music. 9.absolute; utter; sheer: to sing for pure joy. 10.being that and nothing else; mere: a pure accident. 11.clean, spotless, or unsullied: pure hands. 12.untainted with evil; innocent: pure in heart. 13.physically chaste; virgin. 14.ceremonially or ritually clean. 15.free of or without guilt; guiltless. 16.independent of sense or experience: pure knowledge. 17.Biology, Genetics. a.homozygous. b.containing only one characteristic for a trait.
 
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Definition: Virgin

Virgin

Adjective

1. Being used or worked for the first time; "virgin wool".
2. In a state of sexual virginity; "pure and vestal modesty"; "a spinster or virgin lady"; "men have decreed that their women must be pure and virginal".
And when they marry a virgin somehow the woman becomes impure? I don't get it.
 
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Definition: Virgin

Virgin

Adjective

1. Being used or worked for the first time; "virgin wool".
2. In a state of sexual virginity; "pure and vestal modesty"; "a spinster or virgin lady"; "men have decreed that their women must be pure and virginal".
right. A virgin is pure.

I'm not arguing that.

I'm arguing that a woman who is faithful to her husband is not impure.

not that a virgin is not.
 
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It is interesting how a secular dictionary defines pure differently than you do.


pure


pure
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r] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective, pur·er, pur·est. 1.free from anything of a different, inferior, or contaminating kind; free from extraneous matter: pure gold; pure water. 2.unmodified by an admixture; simple or homogeneous. 3.of unmixed descent or ancestry: a pure breed of dog. 4.free from foreign or inappropriate elements: pure Attic Greek. 5.clear; free from blemishes: pure skin. 6.(of literary style) straightforward; unaffected. 7.abstract or theoretical (opposed to applied): pure science. 8.without any discordant quality; clear and true: pure tones in music. 9.absolute; utter; sheer: to sing for pure joy. 10.being that and nothing else; mere: a pure accident. 11.clean, spotless, or unsullied: pure hands. 12.untainted with evil; innocent: pure in heart. 13.physically chaste; virgin. 14.ceremonially or ritually clean. 15.free of or without guilt; guiltless. 16.independent of sense or experience: pure knowledge. 17.Biology, Genetics. a.homozygous. b.containing only one characteristic for a trait.

more prooftexting.

you take one definition of Pure (and by which, the dictionary will give what some will use it to mean) and ignore alot of the rest. A woman who is not a virgin but faithful to her husband is untainted with evil, innocent, pure in heart, free of guilt, free of contamination, etc...

you've highlighted my point, not yours.
 
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more prooftexting.

you take one definition of Pure (and by which, the dictionary will give what some will use it to mean) and ignore alot of the rest. A woman who is not a virgin but faithful to her husband is untainted with evil, innocent, pure in heart, free of guilt, free of contamination, etc...

you've highlighted my point, not yours.

Spiritually, a married woman can be these things . . . it is simply harder. Harder in the fact that when one is married, as Paul states, it is more difficult to think of the things of God and how to please Him.



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Christina
 
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pot meet kettle.

all you guys ever do is proof read. proof reading are the building blocks of sola scripture.
do you know what it even means?

obviously not.


A prooftext is when you take one verse and "prove" your point with it, ignoring context and intent.

Show me where I've prooftexted, please, or retract your statement.

(more anti-Sola Scriptura venom is duly noted.)
 
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do you know what it even means?

obviously not.


A prooftext is when you take one verse and "prove" your point with it, ignoring context and intent.

Show me where I've prooftexted, please, or retract your statement.

(more anti-Sola Scriptura venom is duly noted.)
You need to chill, man.
 
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We wouldn't be having this arguement if people realize the English translation has flaws. You want to understand the Bible in it's full context? Learn Greek, then learn ancient or Koine Greek, then read the Bible. Learn the Greek culture, and how they use word's that even if you can translate it, it will make no sense, and only make sense to people who actually grew up in the culture.

And also, learn that yunaika, does not mean wife....
 
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God's seed?

Well yes- He is Gods own Son.
Anyway i just had a quick look at the scriptures and came up with this.

11 "Now the parable is this: the seed is the word of God.

2TIM 2
9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.

1PET 1
22 Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere[20][Lit unhypocritical ] love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart,
23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.
24 For, "ALL FLESH IS LIKE GRASS,
AND ALL ITS GLORY LIKE THE FLOWER OF GRASS.
THE GRASS WITHERS,
AND THE FLOWER FALLS OFF,
25 BUT THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER." And this is the word which was preached to you.


JN 1
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the[12][Or unique, only one of His kind ] only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 John testified about Him and cried out, saying, "This was He of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.' "
16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.
17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
 
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