how does God fight our battles?

[hhodgson]

God has already won. One is either for God or against God, can't be both. God is the victory. All else fails.

This says it best...

God already has fought our battles, the battle IS won we just have to believe that.

He watches over His Word, and when He sees "believing faith"... He will perform it. Jeremiah 1:12

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[Fmontanay2]

HHodgson

This is just my opinion after breaking down chapters 1-2 only…Please share your opinions…. I would love to hear them… I love to learn

In Jeremiah 1:17 God was preparing Jeremiah to be a prophet by telling him “But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.”

Next in Jeremiah 1:9 we see God touching Jeremiah “Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.”

Now after this passage in Jeremiah 1:10 Jeremiah says that God told him he set him over nations and kingdoms to root out, pull down, destroy, throw drown, build and to plant.

Jeremiah 1:11 God asked Jeremiah what seest thou? Then we move to the passage you brought to our attention.

Jeremiah’s response was the rod of an almond tree. Then God’s response to Jeremiah was:

Jeremiah 1:12 “Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.”

However, I do not believe this was said in or as a result of faith. I believe Jeremiah said this was because God touched him and revealed it to Jeremiah because he had a journey for him to take, a job for him to do, a purpose on his life.

If we look back Jeremiah did not approach God with an inquiry and had to wait in faith for an answer. I say this because in the very next passage Jeremiah 1:13 God continues and this time it is followed with his explicit instructions/mission along with Jeremiah’s guarantee for safety and punishment if he doesn’t do it. So he has no choice in the matter, he can’t say oh, choose somebody else I don’t feel up to it. Case in point (Jeremiah 1:17) God says he will be confounded in front of them.

In Jeremiah 1:17-19:

17: Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee:be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them. 18: For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land. 19: And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the Lord, to deliver thee

This is just my interpretation of this scripture. Is God fighting Jeremiah’s battle for him? Yes, however, technically though it’s really God’s battle, because God was the one was the one who was offended and then he called Jeremiah to fight and then gave him the tools to fight the battle.

Once again this just my interpretation after I break down each verse. I would love to hear your expounded opinion on this scripture. I believe we can learn from each other, as that is what Christianity is all about, God’s people learning from each other.

 

[hhodgson]

HHodgson. This is just my opinion after breaking down chapters 1-2 only…Please share your opinions…. I would love to hear them… I love to learn

In Jeremiah 1:7 God was preparing Jeremiah to be a prophet by telling him “But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.”

Next in Jeremiah 1:9 we see God touching Jeremiah “Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.”

Jeremiah 1:11 God asked Jeremiah what seest thou? Then we move to the passage you brought to our attention. Jeremiah’s response was the rod of an almond tree. Then God’s response to Jeremiah was:

Jeremiah 1:12 “Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.”

Welcome to our forum...

(At first)... Jeremiah was not able to "see" his future clearly. He was a very dubious and faithless candidate for God to use. His boldness and clarity didn’t come until God removed his fear, doubt, and his excuses. We are always so eager to make excuses of why we are not qualified to accept the call of God on our life. We point out our sin, weaknesses, and lack of training, skill, and failures as Jeremiah said (I'm too young). But... God’s loving persistence with Jeremiah gave him skill and understanding to develop his prophetic (eyes to see) vision and his (ears to hear) the word of the Lord through faith.

God knew through his foreknowledge that Jeremiah had doubts and lacked faith and confidence in his abilities. God had to be persistent with Jeremiah to get him to believe and act in faith for his calling. "Then the Lord reached out his hand and touched my mouth and said to me, ‘Now, I have put my words in your mouth" (Jeremiah 1:9). Did God touch him on the mouth to get him to believe? I believe it's quite possible in this case which could be a faith builder for Jeremiah (perhaps) similar to doubting Thomas. ..."Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe." God wakened their faith, both Jeremiah and Thomas believed after their encounters with God.

Shortly after God "touched" his mouth... his "eyes were opened" and he saw the branch of an almond tree and the Lord was pleased with him for... He said, "You have seen well, for I am watching over My word to perform it.” Jeremiah 1:12. God was pleased because of Jeremiah's faith.

In other words (until you have seen correctly) God is not obliged to perform His word. You can therefore be able to quote the whole bible from Genesis to Revelation and still not have anything to show for until you are able to see yourself in it. Can you see what is written? It takes faith for those who "see" and "believe."

Another way to look at this... for instance, John 10:10b promises (everyone) in Christ abundant life; So do we "see" ourself in that light? The word of God becomes active when we begin to "see" ourself as it is. We "see" through the eyes of faith.

However, I do not believe this was said in or as a result of faith. I believe Jeremiah said this was because God touched him and revealed it to Jeremiah because he had a journey for him to take, a job for him to do, a purpose on his life.

I hope what I have written clears this up a bit. Remember this... the only way to please God is your faith in action. "For without faith, it is impossible to please God." Hebrews 11:6 I believe we have demonstrated Jeremiah's faith in action after God touched his mouth.

If we look back Jeremiah did not approach God with an inquiry and had to wait in faith for an answer. I say this because in the very next passage Jeremiah 1:13 God continues and this time it is followed with his explicit instructions/mission along with Jeremiah’s guarantee for safety and punishment if he doesn’t do it. So he has no choice in the matter, he can’t say oh, choose somebody else I don’t feel up to it. Case in point (Jeremiah 1:17) God says he will be confounded in front of them.

Remember... God chose Jeremiah to be His prophet. I quoted earlier that God knew through foreknowledge (the end from the beginning) of what He had to do to stir up Jeremiah's faith. God also knew that Jeremiah would come around when He "touched" him.

But... to say he had no choice in the matter? Hmm... Didn't they have "free will" back then? He could have said NO! Again... God knew he wouldn't though, (foreknowledge) but He knew He had to be persistent with him until he finally opened his (eyes to see) and (ears to hear) in which he did. All of this was in God's plan all along to stir up Jeremiah's faith. (Just my opinion).

As far as the branch of the almond rod that God showed Jeremiah, may be symbolic that God was "awake" and watching over what He said (His Word) what would happen to Jerusalem if they departed from Him. The almond rod (one thought) is to be a symbol of discipline that God used to allow the king of Babylon to destroy them. (Gill's Exposition)

Once again this just my interpretation after I break down each verse. I would love to hear your expounded opinion on this scripture. I believe we can learn from each other, as that is what Christianity is all about, God’s people learning from each other.

God is the author and finisher of our faith. He sees the end from the beginning. And yet all of these great men of faith had circumstances where their faith was tested, including Jeremiah. They had been given a word from God that spoke of promise to them.

It is believed that the prophet Jeremiah was one of the people listed in the "faith tested" chapter who suffered “chains and imprisonment” (Hebrews 11:36; compare Jeremiah 37:15-16). Jeremiah’s captors not only imprisoned him, but they lowered him into a “dungeon”—an abandoned cistern that was deep with mud at the bottom (Jeremiah 38:6). This was the third time Jeremiah was imprisoned and the most harsh. His situation was so dire that he nearly died (Jeremiah 38:10).

I am not a scholar, so this is the best I could come up with. Perhaps others may have some comments. With some research, I did learn more about Jeremiah.

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[yesyoushould]

This says it best...

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He watches over His Word, and when He sees "believing faith"... He will perform it. Jeremiah 1:12View attachment 162826

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God says it best, sorry for offending you.

"Trust in the LORD, and lean not on thy own understanding. In all thy ways, acknowledge HIM...".

 

[now faith]

Welcome to our forum...

(At first)... Jeremiah was not able to "see" his future clearly. He was a very dubious and faithless candidate for God to use. His boldness and clarity didn’t come until God removed his fear, doubt, and his excuses. We are always so eager to make excuses of why we are not qualified to accept the call of God on our life. We point out our sin, weaknesses, and lack of training, skill, and failures as Jeremiah said (I'm too young). But... God’s loving persistence with Jeremiah gave him skill and understanding to develop his prophetic (eyes to see) vision and his (ears to hear) the word of the Lord through faith.

God knew through his foreknowledge that Jeremiah had doubts and lacked faith and confidence in his abilities. God had to be persistent with Jeremiah to get him to believe and act in faith for his calling. "Then the Lord reached out his hand and touched my mouth and said to me, ‘Now, I have put my words in your mouth" (Jeremiah 1:9). Did God touch him on the mouth to get him to believe? I believe it's quite possible in this case which could be a faith builder for Jeremiah (perhaps) similar to doubting Thomas. ..."Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe." God wakened their faith, both Jeremiah and Thomas believed after their encounters with God.

Shortly after God "touched" his mouth... his "eyes were opened" and he saw the branch of an almond tree and the Lord was pleased with him for... He said, "You have seen well, for I am watching over My word to perform it.” Jeremiah 1:12. God was pleased because of Jeremiah's faith.

In other words (until you have seen correctly) God is not obliged to perform His word. You can therefore be able to quote the whole bible from Genesis to Revelation and still not have anything to show for until you are able to see yourself in it. Can you see what is written? It takes faith for those who "see" and "believe."

Another way to look at this... for instance, John 10:10b promises (everyone) in Christ abundant life; So do we "see" ourself in that light? The word of God becomes active when we begin to "see" ourself as it is. We "see" through the eyes of faith.


I hope what I have written clears this up a bit. Remember this... the only way to please God is your faith in action. "For without faith, it is impossible to please God." Hebrews 11:6 I believe we have demonstrated Jeremiah's faith in action after God touched his mouth.


Remember... God chose Jeremiah to be His prophet. I quoted earlier that God knew through foreknowledge (the end from the beginning) of what He had to do to stir up Jeremiah's faith. God also knew that Jeremiah would come around when He "touched" him.

But... to say he had no choice in the matter? Hmm... Didn't they have "free will" back then? He could have said NO! Again... God knew he wouldn't though, (foreknowledge) but He knew He had to be persistent with him until he finally opened his (eyes to see) and (ears to hear) in which he did. All of this was in God's plan all along to stir up Jeremiah's faith. (Just my opinion).

As far as the branch of the almond rod that God showed Jeremiah, may be symbolic that God was "awake" and watching over what He said (His Word) what would happen to Jerusalem if they departed from Him. The almond rod (one thought) is to be a symbol of discipline that God used to allow the king of Babylon to destroy them. (Gill's Exposition)


God is the author and finisher of our faith. He sees the end from the beginning. And yet all of these great men of faith had circumstances where their faith was tested, including Jeremiah. They had been given a word from God that spoke of promise to them.

It is believed that the prophet Jeremiah was one of the people listed in the "faith tested" chapter who suffered “chains and imprisonment” (Hebrews 11:36; compare Jeremiah 37:15-16). Jeremiah’s captors not only imprisoned him, but they lowered him into a “dungeon”—an abandoned cistern that was deep with mud at the bottom (Jeremiah 38:6). This was the third time Jeremiah was imprisoned and the most harsh. His situation was so dire that he nearly died (Jeremiah 38:10).

I am not a scholar, so this is the best I could come up with. Perhaps others may have some comments. With some research, I did learn more about Jeremiah.View attachment 162925

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God uses the foolish to confound the wise, that is if I could tell you why or how he chooses his Prophets, Judges ,Apostles, Kings.

Remember Gideon?
He was to deliver Israel in their time of destruction,yet he needed a sign from of all things a blanket on the ground.

Personally I can not think of a Man of God in the Bible that would live up to mankind's standards for being qualified to do the amazing tasks that God had given them.

If I were to Bring this forward in time,since God does not Change we would look at modern day great men of God:
William Seymour.
Kenyon.
Lake.

And one of the best examples in my opinion is Smith Wigglesworth.

A man who had little education,couldn't read until his wife Polly taught him.
Then he only would read the Bible,and was a faith giant in the 20th century.

We often look at God's Word for what happened many years ago,our mistake is not realizing He is the God of all time.

God today can even use a tough hard core Marine to teach a kind,loving message about the love of God.

 

[hhodgson]

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[hhodgson]

God today can even use a tough hard core Marine to teach a kind, loving message about the love of God.

Perhaps John, you forgot about my experience when I went to Yuma, Arizona when our C-130 cargo plane went through some rough stuff that I quoted earlier...

Being a tough Marine, I was only slightly scared.

Just a little fear.
Had no place to run so I remained calm

As I remained "tough" and shed only a few tears. I maintained composure. The plane was rocking back and forth and I admit I got a little dizzy. And then this... ​

He can also use "one" that is a little chicken!

Be Blessed to be a BLESSING...

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[now faith]

Where in this world did you get smilies that hurl?
hhodson you never cease to amaze me=-O

 

[hhodgson]

God says it best, sorry for offending you.

"Trust in the LORD, and lean not on thy own understanding. In all thy ways, acknowledge HIM...".

Hey "yesyoushould"... Glad I finally caught this. There was no offense, so no apologies necessary. Welcome!

Be Blessed to be a BLESSING...

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