How do you view birthcontrol?

[JCFantasy23]

The question is in the title though I would also add what do you think (those who have any issue with birth control) of someone who is on birth control for medical reasons and not for contraception per say. Is she still "sinful"?

I have no issues with birth control whatsoever, and have never seen anything in the bible stating it is wrong in the eyes of God. Nor have I ever received personal conviction from the Holy Spirit on the matter. I have read a few passages that people support their anti-bc choices with, but I do not agree with them.

Either way it's no big deal to me. I have no issues with those who are anti-bc, or those that believe in the usage.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

I have no issues with birth control whatsoever, and have never seen anything in the bible stating it is wrong in the eyes of God. Nor have I ever received personal conviction from the Holy Spirit on the matter. I have read a few passages that people support their anti-bc choices with, but I do not agree with them.

Either way it's no big deal to me. I have no issues with those who are anti-bc, or those that believe in the usage.

Onan being struck down because of practicing coitus interuptus?


I think we must also remember; that the tradition that says BC is a mortal sin is the same tradition that put together the NT...

 

[Chajara]

Onan being struck down because of practicing coitus interuptus?


I think we must also remember; that the tradition that says BC is a mortal sin is the same tradition that put together the NT...

I'm pretty sure he was struck down because God told him to do something and he pretended to do it while actually weaseling out of it. As if God wouldn't know.

I don't think tradition is necessarily a good reason to do something either. Tradition in parts of Africa says that the genitals of little girls must be mutilated because if they grow up with their [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] intact they are unfit to wed and their babies will die. That's a barbaric tradition.

Besides, you're not addressing what the OP asked, which is about birth control for medical reasons. I don't know if your wife has PMDD or even just severe PMS and terrible cramps but I can tell you right now that it's not fun. It's not fun at all. I tried going off my birth control for a couple of months a few years ago and as soon as it wore off I was like "What was I thinking, this was a bad idea, I went on this stuff for a reason!" and went right back on it. It's nice to not have to come home from school or work because you're, for lack of a better term, bleeding like a stuck pig or in so much pain you have to stop and double over every 5 minutes.

Birth Control has its uses.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

I'm pretty sure he was struck down because God told him to do something and he pretended to do it while actually weaseling out of it. As if God wouldn't know.

I don't think tradition is necessarily a good reason to do something either. Tradition in parts of Africa says that the genitals of little girls must be mutilated because if they grow up with their [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] intact they are unfit to wed and their babies will die. That's a barbaric tradition.

Besides, you're not addressing what the OP asked, which is about birth control for medical reasons. I don't know if your wife has PMDD or even just severe PMS and terrible cramps but I can tell you right now that it's not fun. It's not fun at all. I tried going off my birth control for a couple of months a few years ago and as soon as it wore off I was like "What was I thinking, this was a bad idea, I went on this stuff for a reason!" and went right back on it. It's nice to not have to come home from school or work because you're, for lack of a better term, bleeding like a stuck pig or in so much pain you have to stop and double over every 5 minutes.

Birth Control has its uses.

actually I did address BC for medical reasons in a previous post.

 

[Chajara]

actually I did address BC for medical reasons in a previous post.

Welp. Sorry about that, I somehow missed that this thread is much longer than the 2 pages I thought it was. Apologies, I should probably get some coffee before engaging in debate this early.

 

[JCFantasy23]

Onan being struck down because of practicing coitus interuptus?


I think we must also remember; that the tradition that says BC is a mortal sin is the same tradition that put together the NT...

Yes that is the passage I meant, can never remember the man's name, terrible memory and all that. I don't think this passage is addressing birth control per se.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

Yes that is the passage I meant, can never remember the man's name, terrible memory and all that. I don't think this passage is addressing birth control per se.

Well since they didn't have the pill back then they did coitus interuptus to prevent birth. Not as effective, but that is what was considered birth control at the time.

we have to remember that the early church fathers condemned it too, since they had poisons developed during that time to induce abortion. Tertullian describes the procedure even.

I don't think the pill is sinful in itself(since it can be used for other medical reasons).. however some reasons why the pill is used is what is the sinful part(to have fornication while cutting off the God-given nature of procreation, which disconnects God in the act).

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Well since they didn't have the pill back then they did coitus interuptus to prevent birth. Not as effective, but that is what was considered birth control at the time.

we have to remember that the early church fathers condemned it too, since they had poisons developed during that time to induce abortion. Tertullian describes the procedure even.

I don't think the pill is sinful in itself(since it can be used for other medical reasons).. however some reasons why the pill is used is what is the sinful part(to have fornication while cutting off the God-given nature of procreation, which disconnects God in the act).

They also thought that demons would be able to come into contact with sexual juices and demons would be formed from it.

I at least know I'm safe..I'm on it for PCOS only..haha.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

They also thought that demons would be able to come into contact with sexual juices and demons would be formed from it.

I at least know I'm safe..I'm on it for PCOS only..haha.

where did they say this? I have the whole 38 volume set of the Early Church Fathers and have never read such a statement.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

where did they say this? I have the whole 38 volume set of the Early Church Fathers and have never read such a statement.

I've read it but I think its an earlier Jewish sentiment/Old Testament thing.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Jesus is Lord.com

Answers.com

Wikipedia (gods help me for using this resource..and may the university forgive me)

Wikipedia again - Lilith

Keep in mind its been forever since I've researched Lilith and consequently this. Many people believe she is mentioned as Adam's first wife, though not by name though that is open to interpretation.

 

[mpok1519]

Birth control is a gift from God.

 

[wanderingone]

I view birth control as a private decision that I have no business interfering with. I think it absolutely hilarious that people can claim that "natural" birth control, abstaining is "okay" but everything else is not. It's still about control no matter what... you're still attempting to control when or if you become pregnant.

Now if you won't use certain forms of birth control because you believe they are abortificants knock yourself out and don't use them, but if you go to pharmacy school please start your own pharmacy or work for one that publicly acknowledges it does not sell the stuff, don't go get a paycheck from CVS and then grandstand when some one comes in with a prescription by refusing to fill it.

 

[Sammy615]

Well me for example..I'm on it for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome to help even out my hormones. Now I have regular periods, have become mellower, have almost no acne, have less excess hair growth, etc. I'm not having sex so my prescription never had anything to do with contraceptive and as far as I know I'm already infertile though that hasn't been confirmed. Just sharing that there is more reason to be on the pill than heavy periods.

ETA: I'm not goading you or anything, just explaining.

I suppose this is entirely off topic from the OP, but I also have PCOS and I don't know how to determine whether I can have children or not. Everything I have found on the internet has been useless in that department. Ideas?

 

[Trashionista]

For me, a necessity. For all, a personal choice.

 

[Ave Maria]

I view birth control as a good thing. If birth control usage were more widespread, we wouldn't have nearly as many unwanted teen pregnancies and unwanted pregnancies in general.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

I suppose this is entirely off topic from the OP, but I also have PCOS and I don't know how to determine whether I can have children or not. Everything I have found on the internet has been useless in that department. Ideas?

No idea thus far. No one in my family has had issues conceiving but that doesn't mean I will follow their example. I think your OB/GYN may be able to run some tests but I don't feel able to discuss such things with my doctor at this time so I'm not sure. Definitely talk to your doctor though.

 

[LoisGriffin]

Many women with PCOS can have children. It does make it a lot harder though. My PCOS gives me really irregular periods. If I actually wanted to have children then lack of periods would make it pretty hard to get pregnant.

 

[a.d.ivNonasNovembres]

I wouldn't use birth control. But I am not the right person to tell someone else what they should do since I am neither a doctor or a priest, and thus have neither the moral authority or the medical knowhow to be of advice.

 

[rosenherman]

Originally Posted by CreedIsChrist

However using BC for the sole intent of having sex is a mortal sin. Vasectomy is also a mortal sin and I don't see any medical conditions that would require a vascectomy.
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Is a mortal sin one that will kill you? Like a mortal illness is one that can/will kill you?

You still haven't answered the question above.

Why are their different kinds of sin? My Bible says ALL fall short. Sin is sin and the kind doesn't matter. Lying is a bad as murder and hating is as bad as stealing. And as far as I know there is no injunction in the bible against birth control which would make it, as far as I can tell, not a sin at all.