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Very good!Quite agreed. But.....it was dangerous just being Christian as well, so that reasoning falls flat on its face.
Both sides had the commands from God that they ignored. Both sides were full of guilt. Once the split was irreversible the Christians, at least, should have let go of their anit-semitism. They didn't. It's still far too prevalent today!! It shames me to no limit!
(I know, it's easy to point a finger today, having never suffered such consequences for my decisions. I cannot say what I would have done, I can only say what I pray I would have done or not done.)
Other than anti-semitism being the core of its rejection, what is wrong with this view? The one main change being moving from a sin offering of an animal,, we now have Yeshua's death and resurrection.
For late First-Century Christians, association with Judaism may have been a little dangerous. Don't you think?
I'm sure they said the same about the mainstream Gentile Christians. It's all a matter of POV.I really don't think anti-semitism has anything to do with this. It's about orthodoxy. Really. The Ebionites were heretics, plain and simple.
We can't just play the anti-semitic card whenever we disagree with the early Christians, or we risk "maxing" the card out.
I'm sure they said the same about the mainstream Gentile Christians. It's all a matter of POV.
Yup, hairy tics! How dare they!
- They regarded Jesus as the Messiah and insisted on the necessity of following Jewish religious law and rites.
- They used only one of the Jewish Gospels, revered James the Just and rejected Paul of Tarsus as an apostate from the Law.
- Their name suggests that they placed a special value on voluntary poverty.
I actually listened to a sermon yesterday online. It was from Moriel Ministries with Jacob Prasch. You can read and listen to it here. It's all about the formation of Christian cults, and I think it would make you think about what you've just asked.
From the standard Christian perspective, what you've just described is no more Christian than Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons, and these are not even standard Christian cults. There are cults within Christianity (Prasch mentions Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin as examples of cult leaders who came from within Christianity - and represent examples of those who are really Christian but also veered off into cult status). He does a good run-down of what makes a cult leader, and I think listening to it was beneficial.
(Mind you, I find his site hard to tolerate, since he advocates keeping Torah specifically for the purposes of evangelizing Jews, which I disagree with.)
May I ask anybody here (who is familiar with whom I am referring to) what their opinion was of Zola Levitt??......
May I ask anybody here (who is familiar with whom I am referring to) what their opinion was of Zola Levitt??......
Boy....just when I thought I was starting to understand a little....
I would like to ask a question....and I am hoping against hope that I will not inadvertently offend anyone or cause anyone in this forum to think about censuring me for asking it......
The world "Christian" originates from the Greek word "Christos," which is the Greek translation of the Hebrew word "Mashiach" (מָשִׁיחַ......
Both words basically mean "anointed one" or "one who is anointed".
"Christian" is the English word we use when describing a person who is a believer in or follower of Christ.
What I would like to ask is, what is the transliterated form of the word "Christian" in Hebrew?
The reason I am asking for a transliteration is because I already know that the word "Christian" written in Hebrew is "נוצרי"......
But, how would I write it or say it transliterated into English?
Minim.
smart alec actually i NEVER heard it applied to christians, well, not in my presence, at least
"....he is not Messianic, but a Hebrew Christian."
Okay, time for Tim to admit his ignorance.....
What is the difference between a Messianic Jew and a Hebrew Christian??
(....and please don't say "about 40 pounds"...)
I thought to be "minuth" you had to be Jewish by blood and meet one or more of five additional qualifications???
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