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Depressing ?That's depressing.
Somehow, believing in God is more difficult than believing that He loves me.
All things are possible for the one who believes, but what happens when you can't find faith?
The Bible says that salvation through faith is a gift from God, and this speaks to me. I don't feel that faith and belief is a conscious choice that I can make; my belief comes from what I know to be true, based on what I have seen, heard, and felt. Without the work of God, we could not believe in the gospel to be saved. I feel no more able to choose to believe in God than I could choose to believe that I will not see the sun set today. Yet, the gospels condemn those without belief. I pray that God might open my mind to the truth of the matter, while sustaining my patience and persistence.
What is the path for those that do not believe, but want to? What is the response to those who have tried for years without success?
It sounds to me that you already believe, at least in part, what you want to believe. If you didn't, then why would you want to? why do you fear the condemnation of the gospels? why do you pray that God would open your mind? You show qualities of some kind of belief, even if it isn't saving faith in Christ. You believe Christ, but you are struggling with believing in Christ, am I wrong?
I don't fear condemnation. I don't believe in hell. I like the idea of a loving God, and the idea is one that seems like it would bring some peace. I started my spiritual journey in college, where I was (and still am) surprised to find people that have dedicated their life to God and to helping others find that God loves them. I have seen God (even if it is only the idea of God, their belief in a God) make a difference in the lives of others, I have seen communities of people brought together by a common faith. I have been in a room of people moved to tears by worship and sermons. I would love for my children to be raised in a church family, and I would love to tell them that there is a God who created them with a purpose and who loves them.
But, I'm a skeptic to a fault. I don't believe that. I've never seen or read or heard or felt anything that makes me think that it's true. I believe wholeheartedly that it could be true, that there could be a God out there, and that possibility has driven me to try to figure it out. When I ask others why they believe, I'm looking for reasons to believe myself - but I've never found it. I'm not asking for a sign, but I fear that without one I'm just not capable of believing in something that logically, emotionally, and otherwise seems so far-fetched. My journey, spiritual and not, has led me to be more willing to put myself into the shoes of others, and more patient, and to love others. I don't believe in all the moral themes that are prevalent in the Bible, but a lot of them make sense to me. My last pastor told me that although I may not believe in Christ, he sees Christ in me. And maybe that's true, but I do what I do because it feels right, not because Jesus said so.
Elle12, what do you doubt about the existence of God?
I doubt the existence of God. I doubt the truth of the Bible, and the life of Jesus Christ. All of it.
Is there any particulars for why you doubt his existence?
You will die one tomorrow...It's like asking why in particular I don't believe I'll die tomorrow...
You will die one tomorrow...
You don't/can't know which one it will be.Am I missing your point?
I have never found any type of evidence to suggest it. Believing in God without any logical argument isn't something I would consider myself likely to do. It's like asking why in particular I don't believe I'll die tomorrow - it could happen, but with no logical, physical, or emotional basis to indicate that being the case, I'm not about to believe it.
You don't/can't know which one it will be.
The evidence is all around you, you just refuse to accept it. The kind of "evidence" you want is something out of the ordinary, which if it is out of the ordinary it wouldn't be shown over and over again. The world in which you live in is intelligently designed, that includes and is not limited to the human being. Matter of fact, you are the greatest evidence that there is God. The irony is that the greatest evidence that there is God is the greatest atheist in all of creation.
Faith comes by hearing God. Hearing doesn't just mean reading the Bible, understanding and the applying what He is saying. A Christian is supposed to be able to grow into a communion with God and learn all the many ways He speaks. Throughout my life I understood that we go through seasons with God. Just like love and companionship in a relationship, in our relationship with God, although the love is the same, it is expressed in different ways. It is our responsibility to identify how He is speaking to us. You can start by asking Him the season you are in and how He is speaking to you in that season. For example, I am a seer and I get seasons when I hear Him more through Dreans and Visions, but when He changed the season for the first time I had less dreams. I started panicking because my relationship with Him was through Dreams and Visions, I thought He wasn't speaking to me or I became spiritually deaf, but then I realized He was speaking to me more in that new season through His written word, so I started reading and meditating more in the Word. I always read the Bible, but this time it felt different. I was seeing things for the first time or with a different perspective. Another season I've had was silence, so I learned to just be in silent, knowing He was there with me.All things are possible for the one who believes, but what happens when you can't find faith?
The Bible says that salvation through faith is a gift from God, and this speaks to me. I don't feel that faith and belief is a conscious choice that I can make; my belief comes from what I know to be true, based on what I have seen, heard, and felt. Without the work of God, we could not believe in the gospel to be saved. I feel no more able to choose to believe in God than I could choose to believe that I will not see the sun set today. Yet, the gospels condemn those without belief. I pray that God might open my mind to the truth of the matter, while sustaining my patience and persistence.
What is the path for those that do not believe, but want to? What is the response to those who have tried for years without success?
Church Bus Crash in Gainesville, FL (Jan, 2019)
It isn't a matter of if you are going to die, just when. There are no guarantees for the latter.It happens, but should I be blowing my savings account because it's marginally possible that I may die in a freak accident tomorrow? I don't understand how your point relates.
That we or the world exists isn't evidence that we were created. Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it possible that we weren't? Yes. There isn't really too much evidence in either direction - God is as irrefutable as He is provable. The kind of evidence that I want is as simple as a kind that makes sense to me. It doesn't have to be angels singing from the heavens or telling me what my life's purpose is; but I can't dedicate my life to a character in a book or a concept without something more than, 'it would be nice if it were true.'
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