How do you not be gay?

Antoninus Verus · Jan 26, 2005

kdet said:
LOL...I'm 42 years old and I have been around homosexuals my whole life. I've known women who have been sexually abused by their fathers and chose to have lesbian relationships, I've known men who were sexually assaulted at a young age by older men and were convinced that they were homosexual, and I've seen and talked with and know MANY that God has delivered out of that sexual bondage and have saved from that spiritual and physical death sentence.

http://www.pfox.org/Testimonials.asp

Ok...all these "testimonials" have one centric thing in common, atleast the ones I looked at. "My life got so horrible so became gay/lesbian thinking it would help! But then it just got WORSE!!! BUt then I accepted my sins and I was aaaaaallllll better!" That seems to be the central script in the ones I saw

kdet · Jan 26, 2005

EPHESIANS 4:21-25 If so be that you have heard Him, and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus. That you put off concerning the former conversation of the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind, And that you put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true Holiness, Wherefore putting away lying speak every man truth with his neighbor; for we are members one of another.

ROMANS 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin

Eve_Sundancer · Jan 26, 2005

kdet said:
And ANY person trapped in sin could say the same, but God calls us to CHANGE to no longer be slaves to our flesh but to become new creature in Him.

Technically, wouldn't any sexual person be guilty of this. Or, anyone who enjoys physical pleasures of any kind? (a nice meal, a backrub, a funny t.v. show after a long day of work, etc.)

Antoninus Verus · Jan 26, 2005

Ok...you can copy and paste, dyou want a cookie? Bible quotes hold very little weight in this kind of argument, ESPECIALLY since the bible does not (Atleast as far as I am aware) Have a How-To guide to stop being gay.

Thirst_For_Knowledge · Jan 26, 2005

solomon said:
Perhaps not sexual in a mature sense, but children are intrinsically sensual. They actively seek contact with people, and the people that they seek contact with are sexual.

Yes, this is what I mean by nosexual. When kids are first born, I don't think that have a sexual preference towards one gender or the other. I think that this starts at around five or six. (At least that is when a type of sexual preference started for me. Errr, it was actually more of a sexual curiosity of the opposite sex.)

kdet · Jan 26, 2005

Eve_Sundancer said:
Technically, wouldn't any sexual person be guilty of this. Or, anyone who enjoys physical pleasures of any kind? (a nice meal, a backrub, a funny t.v. show after a long day of work, etc.)

No, because the flesh we are to die to involves impure, immoral things...not a nice meal or tv...

Thirst_For_Knowledge · Jan 26, 2005

Antoninus Verus said:
Ive met PLENTY of girls who go "Oh Im bisexual" but the second a girl even looks twice at her, that "bisexual" atitude disapears mighty fast. Met ALOT of those, but NEVER have I met an ex-gay.

LOL, that made me chuckle.

Eve_Sundancer · Jan 26, 2005

I suppose I was focusing more on the "slaves to our flesh" bit there. Sorry about that.

Thirst_For_Knowledge · Jan 26, 2005

kdet said:
Well, I know I am happy and that my testimony is true. And I know others also
http://www.pfox.org/

Out of pure interest, how exactly did they go about with your "conversion".

kdet · Jan 26, 2005

thirstforknowledge said:
Out of pure interest, how exactly did they go about with your "conversion".

Who is they??? God is the only one that can change anyone.

http://www.ifca.org/Testimony/

Thirst_For_Knowledge · Jan 26, 2005

Errr, I misunderstood you.

Eve_Sundancer · Jan 26, 2005

I believe he means to ask how you were converted from homosexual to heterosexual. Did you do councilling? Prayer? How did it all happen exactly?

Antoninus Verus · Jan 26, 2005

Eve_Sundancer said:
I believe he means to ask how you were converted from homosexual to heterosexual. Did you do councilling? Prayer? How did it all happen exactly?

I doubt youll get an answer that coherant.

All this makes me glad. Im not bisexual, Im not homosexual, Im not heterosexual, Im.....TECHNOSEXUAL!

Lithium Hobo · Jan 26, 2005

Asking someone to stop being gay is just plain silly. Being gay is not a choice, it's a genetic thing. A guy doesn't wake up one day and say "I'm gonna be gay for here on in!" and there ya go. It's a physical attraction that is different from the natural one of males to females.

No one can stop being gay. If you're gay, you're gay, forever and ever. Though many will deny and ignore it.

*Starlight* · Jan 26, 2005

Homosexuality therapies doesn't seem to cure homosexuality, but lead people to depression and suicide. I can't understand why Christians deliberately cause so much harm!

Please look here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exod1.htm

I don't know, maybe some people like kdet weren't really homosexuals, but they thought that were homosexual because of some painful experience in the past?

In some other threads I've read that homosexuality is considered to be a sin because of a mistranslated Bible. So maybe there's no point in trying to cure it, if it isn't wrong?

Riddick · Jan 26, 2005

joebudda said:
My father tried his very best to live what Christians assume to be the “good Christian life”. But it didn’t fix him, all it did was make him miserable. Today he just accepts that he is gay and he lives a very happy life.

I am glad he dropped this idea that Christianity can make you happy and found happiness on his own.

i'm glad that he found his happiness...and additionally, i hope he finds his happiness in the next life.

Madcoil · Jan 26, 2005

Antoninus Verus said:
I doubt youll get an answer that coherant.

All this makes me glad. Im not bisexual, Im not homosexual, Im not heterosexual, Im.....TECHNOSEXUAL!

And I expect you use the technicolor-dream-condom for protection?

Me, I'm a trisexual:

WhoeverLovesGod01 · Jan 26, 2005

I can be attracted to alot of things that have nothing to do with genetics. You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. The point is, if people can do it, doesn't mean they should.

Thirst_For_Knowledge · Jan 27, 2005

Middlemoor said:
I can be attracted to alot of things that have nothing to do with genetics. You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. The point is, if people can do it, doesn't mean they should.

Interesting. I'm only atttracted to one thing....

Eve_Sundancer · Jan 27, 2005

For clarification, what kinds of attraction are we talking about?

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