How do you apply the Sabbath Day in the modern busy world?...

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It's not surprising. This is a well known fact since the beginning of Christianity. Most Christians understand this already with a handful who are mislead and confused.

Surprising you're wrong ! ?
Not how you think though - oh no.... because Yhwh did not make a saturnday holy , no;
Yhwh honored the seventh day and made it holy, yes.
And so do we, all the believers following Jesus love to do as Jesus does.
He shows us how (most people cannot show anyone).
We in fact will follow Jesus wherever He goes, whatever He says.

 

[ewq1938]

Surprising you're wrong ! ?

No, you said I was right but it was no surprise. You remain wrong that Christians should honor the Saturday Sabbath. That is confusing two different religions and practices and confusion is always wrong.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Again, the Saturday Sabbath is not part of the new covenant. It is not something Christians should be practicing.

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

I do not wonder which laws Jesus is talking about it is the ten commandments. In order to be one of his people

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
He did not say keep nine of my commandments he said all.

If you say you love Jesus and do not keep all of his commandments what are you,
Matthew 5:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[ewq1938]

I do not wonder which laws Jesus is talking about it is the ten commandments.

Not the 4th commandment. That is never promoted by Christ and even he and the disciples broke the Sabbath. Are you going to insult my ability to understand English a third time? I was shocked you didn't use a personal attack in this latest post.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Not the 4th commandment. That is never promoted by Christ and even he and the disciples broke the Sabbath. Are you going to insult my ability to understand English a third time? I was shocked you didn't use a personal attack in this latest post.

Jesus never broke the Sabbath, because if he did as you state then he would have sinned, which he did not as he is without blemish. I question your understanding of the character of Jesus Christ if you believe he sinned, as the verse says below he knew no sin. Do you believe the Bible to be the true word of GOD?
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Jesus broke the man made laws that the pharisees had added to the Law of God.
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

You post about insulting you is not meant for me as I have not insulted you. Read the previous posts.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus never broke the Sabbath, because if he did as you state then he would have sinned, which he did not as he is without blemish.

Not so.

I question your understanding of the character of Jesus Christ if you believe he sinned, as the verse says below he knew no sin. Do you believe the Bible to be the true word of GOD?

Breaking the Sabbath was not a sin.

You post about insulting you is not meant for me as I have not insulted you.

You have and it was petty and what you said was not even true which is typical of the use of an ad hominem.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Not the 4th commandment. That is never promoted by Christ and even he and the disciples broke the Sabbath. Are you going to insult my ability to understand English a third time? I was shocked you didn't use a personal attack in this latest post.

Every time Jesus said "Commandments" he promoted the Sabbath as it is the fourth commancment

 

[ewq1938]

Every time Jesus said "Commandments" he promoted the Sabbath as it is the fourth commancment

Nope.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Not so.



Breaking the Sabbath was not a sin.




You have and it was petty and what you said was not even true which is typical of the use of an ad hominem.

Okay now I am done responding to you as when you cannot defend you position in a conversation with scripture you change the subject and go to personnel attacks.

God be with you

 

[ewq1938]

Okay now I am done responding to you as when you cannot defend you position in a conversation with scripture you change the subject and go to personnel attacks.

God be with you

This is common strategy. You attack me personally, I mention that you have done it and you deny and deny, then you accuse me of making a personal attack when you are the only one who has done such a thing.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

This is common strategy. You attack me personally, I mention that you have done it and you deny and deny, then you accuse me of making a personal attack when you are the only one who has done such a thing.

read posts 23 tru 27 and who sent them if you give a hoot about who you attack

 

[OutOfPlace_Christian]

Okay WHOA! I appreciate everyone's take on this and help me get a better understanding (more or less) but there is no need to attack one another. May you both find it in your hearts to forgive each other and/or yourself and move on with love.
May the peace of Jesus be upon you and may God bless you

 

[Meowzltov]

I'm a Jewish Christian, a Hebrew Catholic. I kind of get a double whammy of Sabbath, because as a Catholic I am obligated to attend Mass and not labor on Sunday. Sunday is my day to be with friends and family. I'll call my kids. I watch Hallmark TV movies. I cook easy comfort foods.

As a Jew I delight in doing Jew stuff, and so I keep the law out of sheer love for God. From Friday Sundown til Saturday sundown I'm in shutdown mode, SERIOUSLY. I light the Shabbat candles and say the blessing just before sundown on Friday and eat a wonderful hot meal I cooked in advance. Maybe once a month I'll go to synagogue to pray with my Jewish friends. But for the most part, I just put on my pajamas and don't take them off until Saturday night. I unplug my phone. I sleep in. I read books. I do not cook or clean or do any work from the office. I don't go out shopping or out to restaurants (I don't go out at all). I listen to music. I study the Bible and stuff. I come onto CF. I'm surprised how much I sleep -- it's like all the stress from the week just catches up with me. Shabbat is a day of joy and peace for me.

 

[Meowzltov]

Hi Can someone (or people) help me understand how to apply the Sabbath day in today's busy world? And on which day of the week is it? Saturday or Sunday? I really want to understand this concept and very important commandment but I do not know how we are supposed to have an ENTIRE day of "rest" (and personal time with God?) when we will probably most definitely be required to do some sort of "work". :/

This is my personal recommendation to you, based on my guess that you are a typical Gentile believer. The council of Jerusalem decided that Gentile believers did not need to become Jews and keep Jewish laws, like keeping a Saturday Sabbath. The Church decided to keep "The Lord's Day" (Sunday) instead: a day for prayer, fellowship, the Word, and Breaking Bread.

Find a church you can attend on Sunday. Make that day your special day for the Lord. If you can avoid going to work on that day, do so. I don't believe you will go to hell or anything if you "break the Sabbath." But I think that if you make Sunday "The Lord's Day" you will be blessed. So try to do your chores on Saturday, or whatever other day of the week you have off. It's easier if you ORGANIZE AND PLAN. It's worth it. For example, I stop at the store on my way home from work to do the shopping. You will get out of it however much you put into it. But for heaven's sake don't stress over it, okay? Good luck.

 

[OutOfPlace_Christian]

Thank you Open Heart

 

[Mark51]

Christians are not subjected to the Mosaic Law (i. e. Sabbath). Christ abolished the Law and instituted a new covenant. Compare Matthew 22:39, 40; John 13:34; Romans 7:6; 10:4; Colossians 2:13-16.

In stead of commonly using one day(Sunday) to reflect on God, we should be reflecting on spiritual matters every day. Compare Deuteronomy 6:4-7.

 

[Meowzltov]

Christ abolished the Law

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law Matthew 5:17

It always amazes me that some Christians will say that Christ abolished the law in exact contradiction with Scripture.

The question is rather, what law are we to follow? The Mosaic Law is clearly for Israel, not Gentiles.

 

[ewq1938]

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law Matthew 5:17

It always amazes me that some Christians will say that Christ abolished the law in exact contradiction with Scripture..

There is no contradiction. He didn't come to abolish it but he did fulfill it which means it is no longer in effect. It's just a clever way to avoid the fact that the law would eventually be no longer in effect. Paul used a similar tactic when dealing with accusations from the Jews about the law.