How do YEC date an object?

How do YECs date an object?

Dinner, some wine, maybe a movie. Or do they just go to ice cream socials?

Phred said:

How do YECs date an object?

Dinner, some wine, maybe a movie. Or do they just go to ice cream socials?

Click to expand...

You silly, silly man.

Women are not objects.

Unless you're radiometrically dating them. Then they are definately objects.

I'd really like to hear an answer to this. For all the attacks on scientific dating methods, I've never ever seen a creationist propose an alternative method.

The take some random number X less that 6000 and then subtract that from 6000. Or if it is "post flood," they do the same thing but X is less than or equal to 4000.

The "creation science" approach is merely that there are no valid means to date an object. If it isn't in the Bible it does not exist.

Phred said:

How do YECs date an object?

Dinner, some wine, maybe a movie. Or do they just go to ice cream socials?

Click to expand...

/collapse

Or, you know, they could use radiometric dating on an object and then multiply it by 6000/4500000000.

Or they could discount every year high than 6000.

Why would they bother? The only time I've ever heard a young-earth creationist express interest in a date is when they are trying to disprove the methods used by others, or discussing history. Presumably all the dates for the latter could be obtained from the good book one way or another. And since most other things would be exactly the same age, testing and getting the same result every time wouldn't accomplish a great deal.

Mocca said:

Or, you know, they could use radiometric dating on an object and then multiply it by 6000/4500000000.

Click to expand...

Wouldn't that result in a lot of human history having happened last year?

It would be interesting to see a complete YEC timeline that takes into account all of known history - I doubt they could produce one that isn't self-contradictory.

I haven't any need to determine tlhe age of things and I know of no objective way to do so. Whereas, the evolutionist hasn't any choice but to beg and borrow as much time as possible. In the desperate search to establish the lie of Satan the evolutionists fail to recognize the flaws in their thinking. Nevertheless, it seems to me that, deep down inside his heart, the evolutionist is fully aware of his foolishness and is afraid of God, the Bible and the Christian. The abject fear they must be contending with never fails to reveal their unbidden acknowledgement that their theorizing is vain. It is evident in their scoffer's position, their desperately expressed need to outnumber opposition (which they emotively accept as evidence of the correctness of their viewpoint), their glee at having governmental support (without which they would be ignored for the insignificance of their hypothesis), and their refusal to be objective. They crudely mock others, they put words in people's mouths and then ctriticize what they say, and seldom fail to be accusatory (as is their master). I find that I must spell out everything for them since, it appears that they are not, either willing, or possibly not able to reason objectively.
The evolutionists express an expectation that eveyone should be as gullible as they are and overlook the fact that most of their reasonings are flawed and their tactics deceitful.
I have been given any reason by the evolutionists on this site to respect the evolutionists intellect, integrity nor hypothesis. Their intellect is voided by the foolishness of their beliefs and so they remain blind to the truth. They act like their spoiling for a fight but when challenged they immediately resort to others for "their" defense of the HoE.

When I look at the world around me I see it is as the Bible describes it. I find no compelling evidence, nor flawless reasoning that refutes the word of God.
This fact confirms the truth of God's word in my thinking. I have listened to what God has said and compared that with what I know of the world I live in, and I see that what God has said is indeed true.
One day the evolutionists knees will knock as loudly as Belshazzar's did.

Joman.

Joman, you can bash evolutionists all you want but creationists are just as guilty of the things you say evolutionists do.

f U z ! o N said:

Joman, you can bash evolutionists all you want but creationists are just as guilty of the things you say evolutionists do.

Click to expand...

Not as guilty. Infinitely more guilty.

I mean, look at this:

Joman said:

They crudely mock others, they put words in people's mouths and then ctriticize what they say, and seldom fail to be accusatory (as is their master).

Click to expand...

"You guys are always accusing people of ridiculous things! You're just like Satan, whom you worship!"

Joman =

Joman, it is people like yourself who make any discussion in this area completely meaningless. So long as you hold on to your absolute falsehood that evolution is in some way the same as atheism you are going to consistantly find yourself at odds with just about everyone around you.

There are many more Christians, globally, who accept evolution as God's method of creation than there are YECs.

I work with quite a few theists of different faiths who have no problem in accepting evolution. This from theistic geneticists who know that Goddidit as an answer is not satisfactory to any salient line of enquiry in the scientific field.

When I was a Christian I, and everyone I knew, accepted an old Earth and evolution. My reasons for deconversion had absolutely nothing to do with science or anything like that.

As someone who is now an outsider, I can tell you this. The biggest threat to Christianity today is fundamentalists who want to drive society back by about 800 years. This is the philosophy that causes most consternation to non-believers. Ironically you do more damage to your own cause than the theory of evolution ever could, even if that were its objective. Which it isn't.

Phred said:

Dinner, some wine, maybe a movie. Or do they just go to ice cream socials?

Click to expand...

Is this your object or a method that you use to obtain your object?

ebia said:

It would be interesting to see a complete YEC timeline that takes into account all of known history - I doubt they could produce one that isn't self-contradictory.

Click to expand...

Written history began about 6000 years ago, what would be so difficult about coming up with a timeline for the last 6000 years?

JohnR7 said:

Written history began about 6000 years ago, what would be so difficult about coming up with a timeline for the last 6000 years?

Click to expand...

Because writing something down isn't the only way to know something, Johnny.

Nathan Poe said:

Because writing something down isn't the only way to know something, Johnny.

Click to expand...

If you do not write something down and post it, then I would not even know that you exist. Do you have a new way of teaching now where writing something down is not a part of the equation?