How do we walking with Yeshua?

[visionary]

Because God is faithful to finish what he started. How can you learn to dance if you don't take those first tentative steps. You'll spin and fall on your face so many times, but he is faithful to put you back on your feet. You'll leap in the air and come down in a terribly painful split, but he is faithful to comfort, heal, and put you back on your feet. One day, in the world (but not of the world) your dance will amaze and enthrall and others will want to learn.....you now know how to teach. You'll never be able to teach what you have not learned by experience because to teach you also need something called "empathy."

Just as an aside:
We have things available to us today that Abraham, Moses, Paul didn't have - CDs, books, and most importantly, the Bible. (Yes, by Paul's day, the Tanakh was written, but it wasn't available to the average person. Usually only one scroll per "book" was available to the average synagogue but they were not in people's homes as personal property - too expensive, too bulky. Can you imagine Paul carrying around 30+ scrolls?)

Now you are ready to tutor them so that they in turn, when they no longer need a tutor, they can tutor others...

 

[Temptinfates]

I agree, Vis. Some really good info.advice posted towards OP from all. It takes time to learn, and then you might wonder if you are doing that right, lol. Gotta cut yourself some slack till you get there, then you learn something new, lol.
Temptinfates

 

[DennisTate]

Where do genuine seekers go to find a safe place to learn? To find a community that follows all of Heavenly father's teachings, laws, requirements. That does not add to or take away from Heavenly father's teachings, laws, requirements.

Is there one community that clearly follows all of these teachings, laws, requirements?

How should try to live our lives in the way of the Messiah. (my question is this way does it include the 613 commandment from the old testament, plus all of the messiah words and then his disciples afterwards?)

I ask for help to find guidance as I have not attended any community in over 10 years.

Personally I just take my wife to any church that she wishes to attend. I church hopped for the decade of the '90's and frankly that was a great experience for me at that time. It is wonderful to meet people who obviously are trying their best to draw close to God in virtually every group that I have attended.

The communities that get the most specific customs or ideas correct often have such rigid ideas on membership that it is very difficult to get along with them. The Apostle Paul was correct....knowledge certainly does tend to puff people up and pride does indeed come before a fall and "only by pride comes contention."

This may sound like strange advice but I am at the point where I worry very little about finding a group that has everything right.....because I would certainly not be good enough or obedient enough to attend with them!!!!!

 

[ronshua]

E-SWORD is great advise , and you can download SISR .


[SIZE=-1]SISR[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Released:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]1998[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Contents:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Old Testament, New Testament[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Source Used:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Institute for Scriptural Research (1998)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Location:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Tyndale House, Cambridge, United Kingdom[/SIZE] There are four purposes for this translation:

1. To restore the Name of the Almighty to its rightful place in the text;
2. To be recognizably Messianic in that it affirms the Hebraic roots of the Messianic belief;
3. To restore the meaning to so many words which have become popular to use, but do not accurately reflect the meaning of the original, e.g., church, glory, holy, sacrifice, soul;
4. To be as far as possible a literal translation, wherever possible rendering key words uniformly.

The titles of the books are transliterations of the names of the books of the Old Covenant and, where appropriate, likewise, of those of the New covenant. The order of the Old Covenant is the traditional Hebraic order of the Tanakh.
The Old Covenant is based on the Massoretic Hebrew and Aramaic text, according to the 1937 edition of Kittel's Biblia Hebraica. The New Covenant is based on the Textus Receptus, being modified with the use of such other texts as the Nestle-Aland and Shem Tob, as seemed appropriate.
The Institute for Scriptural Research (ISR), located in the Republic of South Africa, uses the terms Pre-Messianic Scriptures for the Old Covenant and Messianic Scriptures for the New Covenant.



Sample Verses


[SIZE=-1]Bereshith (Genesis) 1: 1, 2[/SIZE]
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

[SIZE=-1]Yohanan (John) 1: 1 - 3[/SIZE]
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
He was in the beginning with Elohim.
All came to be through Him, and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Most pagan words have been filtered out and sent to where they belong .

Peace .

 

[yedida]

E-SWORD is great advise , and you can download SISR .


[SIZE=-1]SISR[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Released:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]1998[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Contents:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Old Testament, New Testament[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Source Used:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Institute for Scriptural Research (1998)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Location:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Tyndale House, Cambridge, United Kingdom[/SIZE] There are four purposes for this translation:

1. To restore the Name of the Almighty to its rightful place in the text;
2. To be recognizably Messianic in that it affirms the Hebraic roots of the Messianic belief;
3. To restore the meaning to so many words which have become popular to use, but do not accurately reflect the meaning of the original, e.g., church, glory, holy, sacrifice, soul;
4. To be as far as possible a literal translation, wherever possible rendering key words uniformly.

The titles of the books are transliterations of the names of the books of the Old Covenant and, where appropriate, likewise, of those of the New covenant. The order of the Old Covenant is the traditional Hebraic order of the Tanakh.
The Old Covenant is based on the Massoretic Hebrew and Aramaic text, according to the 1937 edition of Kittel's Biblia Hebraica. The New Covenant is based on the Textus Receptus, being modified with the use of such other texts as the Nestle-Aland and Shem Tob, as seemed appropriate.
The Institute for Scriptural Research (ISR), located in the Republic of South Africa, uses the terms Pre-Messianic Scriptures for the Old Covenant and Messianic Scriptures for the New Covenant.



Sample Verses


[SIZE=-1]Bereshith (Genesis) 1: 1, 2[/SIZE]
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

[SIZE=-1]Yohanan (John) 1: 1 - 3[/SIZE]
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
He was in the beginning with Elohim.
All came to be through Him, and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Most pagan words have been filtered out and sent to where they belong .

Peace .

I like The Scriptures well enough, most of the time. If you're going to use it, I would suggest you accompany it with a good dose of CJB, NIV and NASB along with a good lexicon and a Jewish Tanakh.
Actually, when it comes right down to it, (except for posting passages here) I only use the Artscroll Stone Edition Tanakh for study. And I usually use the CJB and NIV for the Ketuvei Shalachim when studying.

 

[geniii]

E-SWORD is great advise , and you can download SISR .


[SIZE=-1]SISR[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Released:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]1998[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Contents:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Old Testament, New Testament[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Source Used:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Institute for Scriptural Research (1998)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-2]Location:[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Tyndale House, Cambridge, United Kingdom[/SIZE] There are four purposes for this translation:

1. To restore the Name of the Almighty to its rightful place in the text;
2. To be recognizably Messianic in that it affirms the Hebraic roots of the Messianic belief;
3. To restore the meaning to so many words which have become popular to use, but do not accurately reflect the meaning of the original, e.g., church, glory, holy, sacrifice, soul;
4. To be as far as possible a literal translation, wherever possible rendering key words uniformly.

The titles of the books are transliterations of the names of the books of the Old Covenant and, where appropriate, likewise, of those of the New covenant. The order of the Old Covenant is the traditional Hebraic order of the Tanakh.
The Old Covenant is based on the Massoretic Hebrew and Aramaic text, according to the 1937 edition of Kittel's Biblia Hebraica. The New Covenant is based on the Textus Receptus, being modified with the use of such other texts as the Nestle-Aland and Shem Tob, as seemed appropriate.
The Institute for Scriptural Research (ISR), located in the Republic of South Africa, uses the terms Pre-Messianic Scriptures for the Old Covenant and Messianic Scriptures for the New Covenant.



Sample Verses


[SIZE=-1]Bereshith (Genesis) 1: 1, 2[/SIZE]
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.
In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

[SIZE=-1]Yohanan (John) 1: 1 - 3[/SIZE]
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
He was in the beginning with Elohim.
All came to be through Him, and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Most pagan words have been filtered out and sent to where they belong .

Peace .

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[DennisTate]

Back in the early 1990's I noticed Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua's question to the Pharisees...."is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good, or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" I had just read the Catholic Bible for the first time and concluded that his question was at least partly based on the situation faced by the Machabees where Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jews on the Sabbath.

I tend to think that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was teaching that it is indeed OK for a Messianic Jew or Messianic Gentile to become either a police officer or soldier and do their best to protect their friends and family and nation and people they are responsible for even on the Sabbath?!

By protect I mean even to the point of using extreme force if necessary.....even to the point of taking lives in the event of.....for example seeing your nation invaded on Yom Kippur?????!!!!

My point is that I feel called into the political realm and in order to accomplish something in that world I am unlikely to become extremely worried about fellowshipping only with the best of the best of the best of the very very best....to the virtual exclusion of all others!!!!!!!

 

[visionary]

Back in the early 1990's I noticed Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua's question to the Pharisees...."is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good, or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" I had just read the Catholic Bible for the first time and concluded that his question was at least partly based on the situation faced by the Machabees where Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jews on the Sabbath.

I tend to think that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was teaching that it is indeed OK for a Messianic Jew or Messianic Gentile to become either a police officer or soldier and do their best to protect their friends and family and nation and people they are responsible for even on the Sabbath?!

By protect I mean even to the point of using extreme force if necessary.....even to the point of taking lives in the event of.....for example seeing your nation invaded on Yom Kippur?????!!!!

My point is that I feel called into the political realm and in order to accomplish something in that world I am unlikely to become extremely worried about fellowshipping only with the best of the best of the best of the very very best....to the virtual exclusion of all others!!!!!!!

If you know the recent history of Israel since 1948, you would know that they did fight and won.. read up on the six day war... majoring in history helps.

 

[yedida]

Back in the early 1990's I noticed Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua's question to the Pharisees...."is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good, or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" I had just read the Catholic Bible for the first time and concluded that his question was at least partly based on the situation faced by the Machabees where Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jews on the Sabbath.

I tend to think that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua was teaching that it is indeed OK for a Messianic Jew or Messianic Gentile to become either a police officer or soldier and do their best to protect their friends and family and nation and people they are responsible for even on the Sabbath?!

By protect I mean even to the point of using extreme force if necessary.....even to the point of taking lives in the event of.....for example seeing your nation invaded on Yom Kippur?????!!!!

My point is that I feel called into the political realm and in order to accomplish something in that world I am unlikely to become extremely worried about fellowshipping only with the best of the best of the best of the very very best....to the virtual exclusion of all others!!!!!!!

To derail for a moment: Is there a reason why you feel it is necessary to explain in every single post, in every single use of "rabbi jesus..." just who this is that you are referring to? If so, why don't you just use whichever name you prefer. Here in this particular forum, we refer to him as Yeshua - that was/is His given name, given to him by his heavenly Father.
Referring to him as "rabbi jesus" is just weird.....

Now to your post - good luck.....

 

[DennisTate]

To derail for a moment: Is there a reason why you feel it is necessary to explain in every single post, in every single use of "rabbi jesus..." just who this is that you are referring to? If so, why don't you just use whichever name you prefer. Here in this particular forum, we refer to him as Yeshua - that was/is His given name, given to him by his heavenly Father.
Referring to him as "rabbi jesus" is just weird.....

Now to your post - good luck.....

Sorry....but 95 % or more of my dealings online are not with Messianic Jews and if some of my old friends were to read one of my posts probably 60% or more of them would not know who I was talking about if I wrote Yeshua????!!!

Thank you for the good wishes for what I attempt to do in the political realm....If you are on Facebook I would love to get some criticism or comments or prayers regarding this:


https://apps.facebook.com/forumforpages/180898612019485/f1d6df2e-9dcf-4f89-9abf-c9067e20e956/0

Ban Intra-cardiac potassium chloride injections on singletons.

I can certainly understand why many women would feel that they should have total control over their own bodies but at this time Canada has absolutely no legislation regarding the treatment of the unborn so doctors are free to take the life of a late term fetus who could possibly survive the attempted abortion.
Their lives are ended by an injection of potassium chloride directly into their heart that incidentally are beating at 120 - 160 beats per minute even before they sense danger.

Cardiotocography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The fetal heart rate is faster that the normal heart rate of an adult. The younger the fetus the faster the rate. In middle and late pregnancy the fetal heart beat can be heard almost anywhere over the uterus depending on the position of the fetus. In the first trimester of pregnancy the fetal heart may be detected with an ultrasound machine. The sound is asynchronous and different from the maternal pulse that may be detected and heard in the nearby arteries (uterine arteries), called uterine souffle.
The normal fetal heart rate ranges from 120 to 160 beats per minute."

I am promoting a bill to "ban intra-cardiac potassium chloride injections on singletons."

 

[ronshua]

Not My Post !!

 

[hypshark]

We are to avoid walking in the sinful ways of the world, but not necessarily withdraw physically from the world to live in a Messianic monastery. How else are we supposed to witness to the world, if we are not among the heathen?

Be in the world, but not of it.

 

[TheAlgierian]

Please check out this great this great book on the various bibles around! "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail A. Riplinger this book will give you great enlightenment on how incomplete and inaccurate the NIV is!

 

[ananda]

Please check out this great this great book on the various bibles around! "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail A. Riplinger this book will give you great enlightenment on how incomplete and inaccurate the NIV is!

Unfortunately all translations have flaws. No translation can completely transfer the complete meaning of the words in the original languages.