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We can imagine a bambilion of speculations, for example showing a mobile phone or a car to somebody from 1000 BC or to somebody from the medieval times. That could actually be dangerous.
Egyptian pharaohs had entire kingdoms with tens of thousands of slaves. Haven't you read the Bible about how Solomon constructed his own giant temple?
Actually it's a lot like the pyramids.Yes but the temple of Solomon is nothing like the Pyramids.
At 30 tons and with the altar stoneThis is OK but what about the pyramid stones who moved them ?
We have Hydogen Bombs, in the hands of human beings...life is already dangerous.We can imagine a bambilion of speculations, for example showing a mobile phone or a car to somebody from 1000 BC or to somebody from the medieval times. That could actually be dangerous.
I suggested that they rolled the stones on logs, pulled by horses maybe when I first heard that we don't know how they moved the stones. That was on an English Heritage tour at the site However I am told all the time it cannot explain the distances involved.This isn't rocket science.
I think the bottom line is that, stone henge isn't particularly complex. It literally is a bunch of stones put into the shape of a circle. And people back then had a variety of ways to move rocks around, just as we do today.I suggested that they rolled the stones on logs, pulled by horses maybe when I first heard that we don't know how they moved the stones. That was on an English Heritage tour at the site However I am told all the time it cannot explain the distances involved.
Nevertheless I am not open to the sciencist/atheism history of the human mind, which says if you show a "caveman" a radio, he would assume it was magic, because I do not believe we can read the minds of the people in the past. We do not know that they would think anything was magic, and when I see things I cannot make sense of, I do not assume it is magic, or God, I either ask if anyone else gets it, or I just accept that I do not know.
If you want the churches to be filling up with people, instead of leaching them, I repeat my basic point about how supporting belief in the preposterous claims of the Bible might serve the purpose better than emptying the church of any actual faith...
Also apple, so you know, Egyptians also had very large wooden ships that they used to transport large stones down the nile.Yes but the temple of Solomon is nothing like the Pyramids.
Stone henge was over land but was much smaller. Egyptians had boats to ship stones along the Nile. Thats why the pyramids are right next to the Nile, just beyond its floodplain.
Sure. There are pyramids in many places. But at the end of the day, much like the Bible describes, they were built with human hands. Shaping the rocks, quarrying. Putting the rocks on boats or skids to slide and to roll them.Don't forget we also have Pyramids in Peru.
But in 6000 years time our technology will be ancient history, and people will be talking about how we didn't know that the universe was really 60,000 years old, or will that be 40 billion years old, or 7 million. Until we get an advance on these really basic designsThese structures, though incredible in their own way, did not require any advanced technology beyond basic boat building or
And there's nothing wrong with that. It's not really an argument that understanding of the cosmos should be stuck in time. People used to think that the Earth was flat and that the solar system was geocentric, and just because things change over time, that doesn't mean that we should argue against things like heliocentrism or a spherical Earth or the ancient age of the Earth.But in 6000 years time our technology will be ancient history, and people will be talking about how we didn't know that the universe was really 60,000 years old, or will that be 40 billion years old, or 7 million. Until we get an advance on these really basic designs
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we just would not know. Perhaps we have had our minds affected by the surrounding cultures. In 6000 years time they will have all noticed how subjective our perspective was.
No one in Galileo's time, for example, would have made the argument that science would discover multiple galaxies, therefore, everyone should reject heliocentrism because things would keep changing over time.But in 6000 years time our technology will be ancient history, and people will be talking about how we didn't know that the universe was really 60,000 years old, or will that be 40 billion years old, or 7 million. Until we get an advance on these really basic designs
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we just would not know. Perhaps we have had our minds affected by the surrounding cultures. In 6000 years time they will have all noticed how subjective our perspective was.
No there is not.And there's nothing wrong with that.
Not really an argument for what?It's not really an argument that understanding of the cosmos should be stuck in time.
I do not believe that many people ever did.People used to think that the Earth was flat
I am arguing that science doesn't work as a test with which we can check to find out if the Bible is true, Moses was one of the brainiest people who ever lived, and that Einstein's math's is worth a look actually.and that the solar system was geocentric, and just because things change over time, that doesn't mean that we should argue against things like heliocentrism or a spherical Earth or the ancient age of the Earth.
What you are missing is still how there is all these tools that are not available in our time. In 10,000 years time when they are analysing the two remaining parts of the International Space Station this will be obvious, to them.And that goes back to the point that, nobody is calling the ancient Egyptians stupid, but there are things that they just weren't aware of, that hadn't been discovered in their time. They worked with the tools that were available to them at that time.
Given that everyone here is Christian, I'm not sure anyone would argue that science could be used to disprove the Bible.No there is not.
Not really an argument for what?
I do not believe that many people ever did.
I am arguing that science doesn't work as a test with which we can check to find out if the Bible is true, Moses was one of the brainiest people who ever lived, and that Einstein's math's is worth a look actually.
What you are missing is still how there is all these tools that are not available in our time. In 10,000 years time when they are analysing the two remaining parts of the International Space Station this will be obvious, to them.
God will still have so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3-16 NIV and without him nothing was made that has been made. John 1-3 This includes your computer, the International Space Station, Stonehenge, the Pyramids and that donkey who carried your Saviour to Bethlehem for His birth.
I agree with you here. However as it happens, for all our modern ability to drop old tin cans all over space, having already spoilt the earth, and that is after getting ourselves cursed in the first place, I do not see all our tools as providing anything more likely either.Especially when the Bible doesn't indicate one way or the other what the age of the Earth is. It's not even as though there is a Biblical position on the topic.
Thank you I enjoyed that.This reminds me of a time travel movie I watched called 'Black Easter'.
Thank you I enjoyed that.
"21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen." Revelation 22-21 NIV
But in 6000 years time our technology will be ancient history, and people will be talking about how we didn't know that the universe was really 60,000 years old, or will that be 40 billion years old, or 7 million. Until we get an advance on these really basic designs
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we just would not know. Perhaps we have had our minds affected by the surrounding cultures. In 6000 years time they will have all noticed how subjective our perspective was.
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