How do we know that the earth is a rotating globe ?

[RamiC]

"Smarter" is not a suitable word. Let us rather call it "more advanced".

Even though the intelligence is probably still roughly the same, we know much more, now.

We assume this.

But we cannot even work out how this got where it is, and the people who were there must have known what happened themselves. Stonehenge link with video explaining.

 

[Apple Sky]

Am I an early church father who lived in 300AD? Saint Augustine wouldn't have known anything about Australia.

No but God did & I'm sure he wouldn't have plonked it upside down.

 

[Job 33:6]

No but God did & I'm sure he wouldn't have plonked it upside down.

Again, God didn't write Genesis. Moses, inspired by God, wrote Genesis. And Moses didn't know of Australia.

Moses was an ancient Israelite and he described ancient Israelite cosmology. Not modern astronomy:

 

[trophy33]

We assume this.

But we cannot even work out how this got where it is, and the people who were there must have known what happened themselves. Stonehenge link with video explaining.

No, its not an assumption. Its a very obvious fact.

 

[Apple Sky]

We assume this.

But we cannot even work out how this got where it is, and the people who were there must have known what happened themselves. Stonehenge link with video explaining.

Plus they can't even work out how they built the pyramids & why.

 

[Job 33:6]

We assume this.

But we cannot even work out how this got where it is, and the people who were there must have known what happened themselves. Stonehenge link with video explaining.

I don't think Stonehenge, a bunch of rocks put in a circle, is comparable to something like the international space station.

 

[trophy33]

Plus they can't even work out how they built the pyramids & why.

You cant even work out how your radio or internet work. Or cars. Or planes. Or GPS. Or the display you are gazing at right now. Or even the bulb above your head.

I am pretty sure you understand basically nothing we commonly use and if you were not so used to those things, you would think they are miracles or magic.

 

[RamiC]

I don't think Stonehenge, a bunch of rocks put in a circle, is comparable to something like the international space station.

The point is we have no idea how the rocks got where they are...please watch the video I linked to. It is not the sophisticated design of a circle I am talking about, there is a transportation issue.

 

[Apple Sky]

I am pretty sure you understand basically nothing we commonly use and if you were not so used to those things, you would think they are miracles or magic.

There were miracles in the Bible pretty big ones too such as Moses parting the sea & Joshua stopping the sun. I'd like to see them try this today.

 

[Job 33:6]

The point is we have no idea how the rocks got where they are...please watch the video I linked to. It is not the sophisticated design of a circle I am talking about, there is a transportation issue.

I'm pretty sure that if people can build sky scrapers today, people back then could move a few rocks around. I'm not sure why you find this far fetched.

 

[Job 33:6]

Here are a couple ways that people can move large stones. In the second example, it only took about a dozen people and some wooden beams to move a 12 ton stone. And the people weren't even particularly strong. Just average people. At their rate of movement, they could move a stone of that size 20 miles in just 3 months. Or perhaps nearly 100 miles in a single year. Let alone the centuries that Stonehenge was actually constructed over.

 

[RamiC]

I am pretty sure you understand basically nothing we commonly use and if you were not so used to those things, you would think they are miracles or magic.

No, I would think that I do not know.

Let's say someone from 1820 is suddenly transported to now, and after dark one evening, someone turns on a light. They would say "How is your candle working like that?" not "Ooh it is a miracle."

 

[Apple Sky]

Here are a couple ways that people can move large stones. In the second example, it only took about a dozen people and some wooden beams to move a 12 ton stone. And the people weren't even particularly strong. Just average people. At their rate of movement, they could move a stone of that size 20 miles in just 3 months. Or perhaps nearly 100 miles in a single year. Let alone the centuries that Stonehenge was actually constructed over.

This is OK but what about the pyramid stones who moved them ?

 

[trophy33]

There were miracles in the Bible pretty big ones too such as Moses parting the sea & Joshua stopping the sun. I'd like to see them try this today.

Those are just stories, letters printed on a paper. The display you are looking at right now is something you can actually experience and touch. And you have no understanding of how it works.

 

[RamiC]

I'm pretty sure that if people can build sky scrapers today, people back then could move a few rocks around. I'm not sure why you find this far fetched.

`That is because you are not loking at the links. You already missed a post in which I linked to three entirely modern science articles from respected scientific sources, and one church reference to relative time, which is a concept from Einstein by missing the whole lot to tell me some irrelevant thing about how old geologists think rocks are. Relative time provides for the possibilty of rocks aging millions of years in a week, it is not magic...unless you think Einstein was a magician.

 

[trophy33]

No, I would think that I do not know.

Let's say someone from 1820 is suddenly transported to now, and after dark one evening, someone turns on a light. They would say "How is your candle working like that?" not "Ooh it is a miracle."

We can imagine a bambilion of speculations, for example showing a mobile phone or a car to somebody from 1000 BC or to somebody from the medieval times. That could actually be dangerous.

 

[Apple Sky]

Those are just stories, letters printed on a paper.

I see, so the Miracles performed by Moses & Joshua are just stories ? Okay .................

 

[trophy33]

I see, so the Miracles performed by Moses & Joshua are just stories ? Okay .................

Yes, we have nothing more than the letters on a paper. The miracles of technology around you are very real, though.

You decided to reject the reality around you and to take everything you read in the Bible literally.

 

[Job 33:6]

`That is because you are not loking at the links. You already missed a post in which I linked to three entirely modern science articles from respected scientific sources, and one church reference to relative time, which is a concept from Einstein by missing the whole lot to tell me some irrelevant thing about how old geologists think rocks are. Relative time provides for the possibilty of rocks aging millions of years in a week, it is not magic...unless you think Einstein was a magician.

And I've shared a link with you, that you haven't watched, showing people moving giant stones around, simply by putting them on logs:

This isn't rocket science.

 

[Job 33:6]

This is OK but what about the pyramid stones who moved them ?

Egyptian pharaohs had entire kingdoms with tens of thousands of slaves. Haven't you read the Bible about how Solomon constructed his own giant temple?

1 King 5:13-18 NRSVUE
[13] King Solomon conscripted forced labor out of all Israel; the levy numbered thirty thousand men. [14] He sent them to the Lebanon, ten thousand a month in shifts; they would be a month in the Lebanon and two months at home; Adoniram was in charge of the forced labor. [15] Solomon also had seventy thousand laborers and eighty thousand stonecutters in the hill country, [16] besides Solomon’s three thousand three hundred supervisors who were over the work, having charge of the people who did the work. [17] At the king’s command, they quarried out great, costly stones in order to lay the foundation of the house with dressed stones. [18] So Solomon’s builders and Hiram’s builders and the Gebalites did the stonecutting and prepared the timber and the stone to build the temple.

Stonehenge rocks could have been moved merely with a few dozen people.

But large scale rock moving like that of the Egyptians pyramids would have taken many thousands, and so it is recorded.

Again. If people can build complex sky scrapers today, I'm pretty sure that Egyptians with tens of thousands of slaves, could stack some rocks in a big triangle.

This is how big things were made back then. And that's why Moses wanted to escape and to free his people.