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How do science explain this phenomenon?

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My son calls that a chi energy, he studied it in martial arts. You can photograph it with a Kirlian Imaging Devise. It is not the power of suggestion as some suggest, although I am sure that sort of thing goes on also.

Source? By the way, if chi energy was that massive with influence more people would utilize it.

That picture looks like a leaf modified in photoshop.

I'll look into the Kirlian Imaging Devise, sounds like fun.
 
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Source? By the way, if chi energy was that massive with influence more people would utilize it.

That picture looks like a leaf modified in photoshop.

I'll look into the Kirlian Imaging Devise, sounds like fun.
Actually most anyone in the health and healing profession could be photographed to have Chi Energy or a healing energy. Although my brother is a doctor and he claims he does not have any energy or natural ability to be able to heal people. But to answer your question it has to do with time. My dad use to say he could perform surgery without anesthesia but it would just take to long. Back when he was building up his practice he would accept invitations as a guest speaker to give a demonstration on hypnosis. He claimed he could hypnotise the whole audience. Most of the people if you asked them they would say that they had been hypnotised.

The Kirlian camera has been around a lot longer then photoshop.
 
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Jazer said:
My son calls that a chi energy, he studied it in martial arts. You can photograph it with a Kirlian Imaging Devise. It is not the power of suggestion as some suggest, although I am sure that sort of thing goes on also.

*annoyed*

Chi energy isn't physically real, it is an oriental metaphysical concept. What is happening here in the video is pure psychology.
 
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Jazer said:
Actually most anyone in the health and healing profession could be photographed to have Chi Energy or a healing energy. Although my brother is a doctor and he claims he does not have any energy or natural ability to be able to heal people. But to answer your question it has to do with time. My dad use to say he could perform surgery without anesthesia but it would just take to long. Back when he was building up his practice he would accept invitations as a guest speaker to give a demonstration on hypnosis. He claimed he could hypnotise the whole audience. Most of the people if you asked them they would say that they had been hypnotised.

1. This "healing energy" stuff in healthcare was disproved in like the 90's. By a 10-year old. Youngest published author ever in the New England Journal of Medicine.

2. If your dad thought he could hypnotize entire audiences from the podium, he had a terribly flawed understanding of the limitations of hypnosis.
 
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*annoyed* Chi energy isn't physically real
Yes of course nothing is real, it is all an illusion and none of us really exist.

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Yes of course nothing is real, it is all an illusion and none of us really exist.

Feel free to provide scientific sources for your claim that chi is a physical thing anytime now. I realize Creationists arent big on science, but since we aren't talking about that now, could you at least TRY to provide evidence for your wild assertions rather than just flinging bizarre claims out and demanding we just believe them for no reason at all?
 
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If your dad thought he could hypnotize entire audiences from the podium, he had a terribly flawed understanding of the limitations of hypnosis.
He had 17 degrees and diplomas hanging on the wall of his office and hypnosis was one of them. Did he have a flawed understanding into believing he was a medical doctor also?
 
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He had 17 degrees and diplomas hanging on the wall of his office and hypnosis was one of them. Did he have a flawed understanding into believing he was a medical doctor also?

17 degrees? Appeal to authority. Also somewhat doubtful.

There is no such thing as a degree in hypnosis.

And yes, your father's understanding was flawed, I'm guessing he didn't pay attention to his general psychology courses in undergraduate and med school.
 
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Feel free to provide scientific sources
I am going to give you the bottom line here. God can fix ANYTHING, science can not. Period the end. If people are looking for God then in His time He reveals Himself to them. If they are not looking for God then He will pretty much leave them alone to their own devises. It is not up to me to do your research for you. Only you can discover truth for yourself. I can not do it for you.
 
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I'm guessing he didn't pay attention to his general psychology courses in undergraduate and med school.
He was a big fan of Dr Fraud and Dr Spook. He use to even correspond with Dr Spook. My brother has all of that now.

Appeal to authority.
Here is an authority for you on Tai Chi or the study of Chi energy.
He is BTW also a Christian. I have seen him on TBN.

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Actually most anyone in the health and healing profession could be photographed to have Chi Energy or a healing energy. Although my brother is a doctor and he claims he does not have any energy or natural ability to be able to heal people. But to answer your question it has to do with time. My dad use to say he could perform surgery without anesthesia but it would just take to long. Back when he was building up his practice he would accept invitations as a guest speaker to give a demonstration on hypnosis. He claimed he could hypnotise the whole audience. Most of the people if you asked them they would say that they had been hypnotised.

The Kirlian camera has been around a lot longer then photoshop.

I've read quite some about hypnosis and I find it interesting. It is possible to hypnotize audiences but it will most likely not be possible for most of the audience in such a short time. Some will get hypnotized and some will feel the peer-pressure and act along.

The "resistance" to hypnosis is individual and it is not uncommon to take months before successfully hypnotizing someone. Tricks like instant hypnosis is planned ahead of time.

Regarding the Kirlian camera, I know it is older than PS but that leaf looks a tad to sharp.
 
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17 degrees? Appeal to authority. Also somewhat doubtful.

There is no such thing as a degree in hypnosis.
He said "17 degrees and diplomas". Nothing about "17 degrees".

Edit: Huh, one of the degrees was apparently hypnosis. That's strange...
I googled "degree in hypnosis" and stumbled upon:
"link" minnesota-institute-of-advanced-communication-skills "link"


There are no accredited hypnosis degrees available (yet) anywhere in the United States. If such a degree is available overseas, it is extremely unlikely that it would be considered an accredited degree in America.
 
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Actually most anyone in the health and healing profession could be photographed to have Chi Energy or a healing energy. Although my brother is a doctor and he claims he does not have any energy or natural ability to be able to heal people.

Chi energy/healing energy is junk. No one in the medical profession talks about that stuff, like how they don't talk about making a sacrifice to Asclepius before every operation.
 
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If looks could kill. Focus your vision through the eyewhites... And build up a world for the victim. Hypnosis when it is as darkest, because it can only be used to destroy and kill.
Why through the eyewhites?
You're not serious in this post, are you?
 
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You learn to appriciate the music. It is clean, it is pure, without blemish, without defilement.

Read the bible, the bible teaches that narrow is the way, it teaches that we should be beware of false prophets and false apostles. Always ask "is this love" if you feel love you are on the right place if searching for a communion.
 
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Serpents doesn't hypnotize with their eyes, if you refer to the swaying motion often portrayed in movies that comes from the snakes themselves being charmed by moving objects, like flutes etc.

Edit: The closest thing snakes come to hypnotizing prey is luring them by moving a small part, making it look like food. Some theories are that other snakes uses the reflex of the prey to stun them in place before killing them. Note that this is two separate techniques.
 
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