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Is this why we always read whole sections of Scripture-OT, NT, Psalms and Gospel in Liturgy? As well as in daily Prayer? Because it's lip service?
Why do you continue to tell lies about the Catholic Church? Private devotion is not looked kindly upon? The Rosary is a private devotion. The Divine Mercy Chaplet is a private devotion. Daily prayer and scripture reading, which are encouraged, are private devotions.It could be that PRIVATE piety (which of course the Roman Catholic Church doesn't look kindly upon) might be an alternative to organized religion, but that's not what a "nominal" Christian, of any denomination, is doing or what the word means.
No one's pitting anything. I was merely making a factual correction to something you wrote. Most Catholic countries are NOT populated by people who are defined by their faith. In most of them, the people's connection to their church is minimal.
And which Marian apparitions does the RCC tell us we must believe?Officially? hmmm, don't know if the Lady of Akita bled, but I think that is the only RCC official bleeding statue, if it did.
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Private devotions are not considered an adequate alternative to corporate worship, etc. As a supplement, sure, they're encouraged. You really need to stop jumping to extremes when you're looking for some rebuttal.Why do you continue to tell lies about the Catholic Church? Private devotion is not looked kindly upon? The Rosary is a private devotion. The Divine Mercy Chaplet is a private devotion. Daily prayer and scripture reading, which are encouraged, are private devotions.
Private devotions are not considered an adequate alternative to corporate worship, etc. As a supplement, sure, they're encouraged. You really need to stop jumping to extremes when you're looking for some rebuttal.
But since you are unwilling to discuss in a calm and civil manner, this is the end.
There were. We have documents that show it. We've shown it to this thread.
What's a "hair shirt" and why would you wear
such a thing?
Inflicting minor tortures on oneself is sin.
Well Albion, you know if you don't accept their teachings on this matter what awaits you...
What's a "hair shirt" and why would you wear
such a thing?
How does self torture bring one closer to God.I don't know. But it was a form of penance.
Depends on the minor torture. The Bible recommends fasting, which is considered mortification. When done for the purpose of bringing yourself closer to God, it's not a sin.
The same way restraining a violent person is, in a sense, protection for that person.Yeah, I saw that from the definition. I think it's a strange word, but I see no problem with that.
This is what had come to mind when he said mortification, but I wanted to be certain of it first. Exactly how is inflicting pain upon oneself a holy act?
The same way restraining a violent person is, in a sense, protection for that person.
I don't know, but self-sacrifice is always a good thing. For example, I examine myself and see that I've been walking past this same homeless man for a long time and not doing something for him. So I give him part of my lunch every day. And because of my doing so, I go a little bit hungry for part of the day until I get home.
I cannot speak for those who beat themselves. I personally don't get it. But I don't get it when people get every square inch of their chests tattooed, or even one square inch. It's not for me to judge.
God saw fit to preserve Mary's name in sacred scripture and God saw fit to record her obedience and her song of praise and the Lord's respect for her. That is enough.
If that were the [Catholic Church]'s stance, then there could be no argument.
This isn't true of the NT...which is the only place we have God's word actually spoken.Because fortunately Gods Word in written form was around for a lot longer than the RCC....
You'd be surprised
This is what had come to mind when he said mortification, but I wanted to be certain of it first. Exactly how is inflicting pain upon oneself a holy act?
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