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Your probably right. I just don't know how to deal with pride. I have asked God how I deal with pride and I believe He said that He is the one who humbles me. So go figure since He apparently hasn't humbled me yet.
Hi brinny, to this day I'm not sure if I've been through the job experience, the anger you see I have felt is with myself. I have hurt so many people all for my all selfish gain. All the time I was crying out to god, I don't want to hurt anyone, I'm sorry, I just can't help myself, you see it breaks my heart, when people have gone through real trauma experiences because they deserve to be cared for. As a child I was bullied and my
Parents divorced but I guess when I weigh it up to the pain I've caused people, there is no excuse, see I have had a job experience of pain, maybe? I started of by gambling when I was 12, I was taking drugs at 16, by 19 I was an alcoholic, I rarely ate because my mum couldn't afford food as a child and she used to ration it, so I got used to eating very little, at 21 I started listening to the doors, by 27 I had convinced myself that the lead singer of the doors, was sending me messages through the music, that eventually I decided thatif I caused enough pain in my life, I would be released from my life, but that all depends on how much pain I was willing to inflict on myself, was I ready? How far could I go? how much did I hate myself? It was then I started self harming and taking overdoses, really drinking a lot and taking drugs, I really hurt myself and others, it was really bad then one day, I looked in the mirror I didn't know who I was anymore, I didn't even know what I was drinking, it looked like whiskey, but it was like no drink on earth, I've ever tasted, I said to god, if you start changing my life around you can have it, so I chucked the bottle if whiskey down the drain and chose him, he got on medication and into a good church, they really helped me, the lord got me into college, learning health and social care, now I volunteer at a place that works along side adults with learning disabilites, they are such amazing people, I love them all so very much, I have a nice flat, which is great because at one
Point, I was homeless for two and a half years, I'm on a recovery programme and I'm well under way, I've been on it for three years. But through all of this I do feel bad because I chose to hurt, maybe not at first but I was selfish, but slowly God is working through this, and I'm rebuilding relationships again, I'm sorry if some of this was heavy, I just wanted to say although there is so much more to say, this doesn't even scratch the surface, God is amazingly patient and kind, he waits until we are ready to accept him, and he takes us how we are, Brinny do you think you could tell me a little about yourself, you could pm if that would be ok. God bless
Brinny, thankyou for your posts, God bless You
Brinny, I just wanted you to know that if you ever need to talk, about anything, I'm here, it sounds like we've both been through a lot, may god bless you my sister
Anger toward God must be confronted with truth about God. After all, if we are angry toward a person, the right thing to do is get to the bottom of the matter we are upset about and find the truth rather than just rashly acting against a perceived wrong. That's why we have courts, for instance.
What did God allegedly do to anger you, and how do you know it is God who did it? And how do you reconcile this with the truth that God does not sin against people, but rather, "God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone (James 1:13b)?"
Ultima4257,
I have an equally simple question for you.
Why can't you forgive God for what you feel He has done wrong?
It's a simple thing to do. And it is entirely in your own hands and up to you. Why not give it a try?
I am angry with God because He designed hell to be a place of eternal torment where people are tortured for all eternity. Their is no justice in that to me, it is cruel. If perfect justice demands such, then we as humans should have the full knowledge of how holy God is and how repulsive sin is to Him. Also, people should be judged for their own sins in stead of punishing their families to the third and fourth generation.
1) Everybody's got enough sin on their own record to be damned, he doesn't need to condemn people to the third and fourth generation.
Really? Then why did the son of David and Batsheba die for David's mistake. Doesn't seem like he committed any sin. Furthermore, what of the destruction of the Amalekite children and the children from the flood? Were they punished for their sins or the sins of their father's?
2) Murderers, rapists, and other oppressors are being tormented forever, or at least they will be. I don't have a problem with this. Cruel people deserve a cruel fate.
You can say that all you want, but when it comes down to it I don't think any descent human being could approve of such a horrendous torture as hell for ALL ETERNITY. There would be no end to their suffering, which seems odd because the suffering they caused by their actions were temporary and not felt for eternity.
3) Human beings know enough intrinsically that there is a Creator and Lawgiver, and that they fall well short of moral rightness. We know enough, and those who got more of a visual revelation from God almost all abused the privilege and still sinned against him.
Fair enough. I am not saying that humans don't have ANY idea of what sin is, but their is a big difference between how we view sin and how God sees it. We aren't on the same level of understanding as God, but He feels it is just to punish someone forever in spite of this. If someone in our society wasn'tt fully aware of his actions we wouldn't punish him to the fullest extent of the law would we? If a child doesn't fully understand something the way and adult does, do we punish them the same?
I wouldn't count on anger to lead someone to a more rational concept. Rejecting beliefs about God simply because they make a person upset is a logical fallacy. How one feels about God does not make God exist or cease to exist, nor does it alter God's traits if he does exist. A lot of people who say they don't believe in God anymore forget or ignore that.I'm sorry, but...what? You can be angry at God all you want. In fact, why should it subside? Maybe your anger will lead you away from a BS notion of God to a real understanding of who and what God is.
Fair enough. I am not saying that humans don't have ANY idea of what sin is, but their is a big difference between how we view sin and how God sees it.
We aren't on the same level of understanding as God, but He feels it is just to punish someone forever in spite of this.
You seem to be starting off in your considerations of hell with the idea that God can do, and does, some things imperfectly. But this immediately removes God from the role of God. If God does anything imperfectly, He is not God. The God you are angry at, then, is not God. If He were, His perfection would preclude any anger toward Him - except, perhaps, if you have obtained a misunderstanding of His perfect character and actions, or your own imperfections have prompted such anger. Could it be that the problem isn't with God, but with you? Could it be that your finite, sin-corrupted understanding and nature puts you at odds with the holy, infinite perfection of God? This seems a distinct possibility to me.I am angry with God because He designed hell to be a place of eternal torment where people are tortured for all eternity. Their is no justice in that to me, it is cruel.
We do have such knowledge. God makes this crystal clear in how severely He judges our sin. The horrendous punishment of hell declares the great and awful wickedness of our sin. If the punishment of hell is a perfect response to our sin, our sin must be incredibly vile indeed! Rather than acknowledge this, however, people like yourself would rather condemn God's righteous judgment. How easy we can become with our sin, where we are angry at God for judging our sin rather than at ourselves for committing it!If perfect justice demands such, then we as humans should have the full knowledge of how holy God is and how repulsive sin is to Him.
This is exactly what God does. Every man must give an account for his actions to God. No one will be doing so on behalf of another. Read Ezekiel 18.Also, people should be judged for their own sins in stead of punishing their families to the third and fourth generation.
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