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How diffrent races came to exist

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Br. Max said:
On the 6th day God created man - male and female and told them to populate the EARTH. Then he rested. THEN We find God creating Adam in EDEN - populating the garden with animals and THEN creating Eve. They mannage to sin and end up kicked out of the garden to earth.
So are you saying that God created humans before Adam and Eve?

The Bible never states that.
And that is a rather big thing to leave out.

Isn't it more reasonable to assume that CH-1 is an overview and CH-2 is a detailed account of the craetion of humankind?

And that Adam and Eve had many more children then merely 3 in their lifetimes?
That they had many more in fact and that the Main three are the ones mentioned?
 
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Atlantians said:
So are you saying that God created humans before Adam and Eve?

The Bible never states that.
And that is a rather big thing to leave out.

Isn't it more reasonable to assume that CH-1 is an overview and CH-2 is a detailed account of the craetion of humankind?

And that Adam and Eve had many more children then merely 3 in their lifetimes?
That they had many more in fact and that the Main three are the ones mentioned?
Chapter one is the recreation of life on earth. Chapter 2 is the creation of life in the Garden of Eden. Notice that there is not only a different order of creation in the two chapters - but different locations. :)
 
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Br. Max said:
Chapter one is the recreation of life on earth. Chapter 2 is the creation of life in the Garden of Eden. Notice that there is not only a different order of creation in the two chapters - but different locations.

Recreation? What was the first creation? The Bible mentions one creation. Two craetions is a massive detail to just casually leave out.

Eden is on earth my friend.
Chapter One is an overview of the creation of the universe, earth, and life on earth.
Chapter two is a detailed description of the creation of life on earth, mainly the Garden of Eden. Specifically the creation of Human kind.
 
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Atlantians said:
Recreation? What was the first creation? The Bible mentions one creation. Two craetions is a massive detail to just casually leave out.

Eden is on earth my friend.
Chapter One is an overview of the creation of the universe, earth, and life on earth.
Chapter two is a detailed description of the creation of life on earth, mainly the Garden of Eden. Specifically the creation of Human kind.

Eden is on earth? Where? I'd like to take a trip there to see the Angel with the flaming sword standing at the gate. OH and maybe I could get a pic of the tree of life or the tree of knowledge . . . .:thumbsup:
Eden was and remains separate from the earth.

Did you ever once wonder why God commands that a male child is to be circumcised on the 8th day of his life? Why do we worship on the 8th day? Why did Christ rise on the 8th day?


NOW as for recreating - let me guess - you are a young earther?

Get a bible out and go over the hebrew of gen 1:1 and 1:2.
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth BECAME without form and void . . . .
 
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Br. Max said:
Eden is on earth? Where? I'd like to take a trip there to see the Angel with the flaming sword standing at the gate. OH and maybe I could get a pic of the tree of life or the tree of knowledge . . . .:thumbsup:
Eden was and remains separate from the earth.

Did you ever once wonder why God commands that a male child is to be circumcised on the 8th day of his life? Why do we worship on the 8th day? Why did Christ rise on the 8th day?


NOW as for recreating - let me guess - you are a young earther?

Get a bible out and go over the hebrew of gen 1:1 and 1:2.
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth BECAME without form and void . . . .
Eden was on earth. It probably was destroyed by the flood. And or it died of other causes. I highly dought that the Angel was/is visable.

I am an Old Earth creationist my friend. I have stated so in the past day I believe.
And the Bible says God created life... not recreated life.

The Bibe says 'the earth was without form and void'. I have no idea where you got 'the earth became without form and void'.
That verse is not in the Bible.
'The earth was without form and void' is correct.

Jesus rose on the third day from friday(Sabath day), IE: Sunday.
Not the eighth day.
Modern Judaism and Christian Seventh Day Adventists worship on the seventh day. Most Christians worship on the First day.
What in the world is your point?:confused:

And again, finally, Eden was on earth. It was a physical place on earth. Where else would it have been? The moon?! Mars?! Adromeda Galaxy?!:doh:
 
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Atlantians said:
Eden was on earth. It probably was destroyed by the flood. And or it died of other causes. I highly dought that the Angel was/is visable.
HUH? Talk about making things up. There is nothing anywhere in scripture to even begin to support this notion. NOR is there anything that might suggest that God would allow what was perfect - that which he cast Adam and Eve out of so that it would remian untainted - be destroyed.
I am an Old Earth creationist my friend. I have stated so in the past day I believe.
And the Bible says God created life... not recreated life.
In the beginning - God created the Earth - the earth with dinosaurs. Satan is cast down to earth - dinos are destroyed - the earth is without form and void - and God recreates the earth as we now know it.
The Bibe says 'the earth was without form and void'. I have no idea where you got 'the earth became without form and void'.
That verse is not in the Bible.
'The earth was without form and void' is correct.
I got it from studying the hebrew. WAS is a mistranslation - hâyâh - the hebrew word in question here means to become. :)

Jesus rose on the third day from friday(Sabath day), IE: Sunday.
Not the eighth day.
The Sabbath is the 7th day - one more than 7 is?? 8! :)
Modern Judaism and Christian Seventh Day Adventists worship on the seventh day. Most Christians worship on the First day.
You must not have ever read the church fathers. We worship on the 8th day. :)
What in the world is your point?:confused:

And again, finally, Eden was on earth. It was a physical place on earth. Where else would it have been? The moon?! Mars?! Adromeda Galaxy?!:doh:
My point is that you are thinking in the box. God does not exist in a box. :)
 
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Br. Max:
HUH? Talk about making things up. There is nothing anywhere in scripture to even begin to support this notion.
*cough* Great Flood *cough*
;)

NOR is there anything that might suggest that God would allow what was perfect - that which he cast Adam and Eve out of so that it would remian untainted - be destroyed.
Adam and Eve were perfect and they were tainted and died.
Eden was protected from re-entry.
The flood happened. Eden was destroyed.
Or Eden was removed from the earth,
which makes less sense.:thumbsup:

In the beginning - God created the Earth - the earth with dinosaurs. Satan is cast down to earth - dinos are destroyed - the earth is without form and void - and God recreates the earth as we now know it.
Ahem? The Bible never says recreated. All of what you just said is contrived speculation at best.:doh:

I got it from studying the hebrew. WAS is a mistranslation - hâyâh - the hebrew word in question here means to become.
It also means 'come into being'.
So the Earth 'came into being' void and without form.
^_^

The Sabbath is the 7th day - one more than 7 is?? 8!
Weeks are base 7 math. There is no eighth weekly day.
Most Christians worship on the 1st day of the week, Sunday.
The rest worship on the traditional Sabath day.

You must not have ever read the church fathers. We worship on the 8th day.
They were wrong, if you are even citing them correctly.
We worship on the 1st day of the week. There is no eighth day of the week.:doh:


My point is that you are thinking in the box. God does not exist in a box.

[BIBLE]
4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [b] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- 7 the LORD God formed the man [e] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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Now, if you would notice, this says Adam was created on earth and went east into the Garden, which was on earth.
 
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Br. Max said:
not CAME into being - COME to BE - or BE-COME. :)
I was translating it into proper grammar.

It became void and without form. It was coming into being void and without form.

It become void and without form is not proper grammar. The word is past tense. It happened already.

There is no evidence that it existed before then.

It came into being void and without form.

There is no evidence in scripture or otherwise that earth existed beforehand, or had creatures existing on it beforehand.
If it was made void and without form after it was created, why have creatures that existed since the dinosaurs existed, remained on earth?
Early sharks, those bug like things that are still around, ect.

If the earth was destroyed why do we have no evidence for that happening?


This all leads to the conclusion that the earth was created void and without form. Then God formed it for the first time.:thumbsup:
 
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Br. Max said:
No race is not a myth - the notion that there are different races of MAN is a myth. There may be physical characteristics that are indicative of a specific limited gene pool, but those differences are too small to constitute different races of man. There are wto types of people who hold fast to the race myth: those who benefit from the myth and those who fear those who appear different.
Since you refuse to support your post with facts, data, or standard definitions (which i even posted for you) I think I’m gonna exit this thread.
 
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Since you refuse to support your post with facts, data, or standard definitions (which i even posted for you) I think I’m gonna exit this thread.
I posted a very standard definition of race. I posted the origins and history of race theory. Just because you do not lik ethe facts I presented does not mean that I did not post facts.

:wave: God bless.
 
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Hi I was just wondering how different races came to exist from adam and eve thanks:thumbsup:


Look up aig.org. I think that is the address. It is answers in Genesis. I believe that Ken Ham has a book called Races where did they come from, or something like that. He has good answers on the subject.
 
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Some very "interesting" beliefs here. Many seem to be based on tradition, or very shaky biblical theories.

Basically different parts of the earth ended up with different looking people. But we are all still people.

The bible is really not clear on how these differences came to be. It seems to me to be most obviously a case of migration and then seperation. It obviously is a genetic thing.

I have heard of the tortured reasoning that the "adamic" cooresponds to the 10 lost tribes before. The people I have heard espouse this are white supremicists.

Based purely on Genesis, we are all descended from Noah and his wife. The Shemites (semites ??) settled the middle east, the Hamites the south and the Japhethites the north is one conjecture...but what about the asiatic peoples? I really just give up on this point. The bible doesn't explain it so I leave it to the geneticists to explore.
 
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JVD said:
Some very "interesting" beliefs here. Many seem to be based on tradition, or very shaky biblical theories.

Basically different parts of the earth ended up with different looking people. But we are all still people.

The bible is really not clear on how these differences came to be. It seems to me to be most obviously a case of migration and then seperation. It obviously is a genetic thing.

I have heard of the tortured reasoning that the "adamic" cooresponds to the 10 lost tribes before. The people I have heard espouse this are white supremicists.

Based purely on Genesis, we are all descended from Noah and his wife. The Shemites (semites ??) settled the middle east, the Hamites the south and the Japhethites the north is one conjecture...but what about the asiatic peoples? I really just give up on this point. The bible doesn't explain it so I leave it to the geneticists to explore.
Migration went eastward, northeastward, to alaska and north america. Thus explaining the similarities between the asian, eskimo, and north american indian.
 
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