How did we get here?

[mzungu]

Er, no. You don't hear me complaining about electrical engineering and plasma physics research do you? FYI, the term "satan" comes from the root word "adversary". It essentially describes the human "ego" when it sees itself (thinks of itself) as being "separate from/independent of" God. It's not a disembodied entity.

OK Lucifer then!

It is typical of creationists to cherry pick what suits them and discard what does not. Well I have news for you; Science does not work that way. Your insistence on SS and your other crackpot theories mixed with religion is not and never shall fall in the domain of science!

 

[SkyWriting]

How did we get here? THe question has been asked by many but answered by few. Creationists will tell you that we are offspring of Adam and Eve. Evolutionists will say that we evolved upward from some distant apelike hominid somewhere in the past. I want to go back further. For Creationists, the answer is easy- God made Adam and Eve. That case is closed. But for evolutionists the answer is not so easily put forth. Evolutionists always seem to respond with something along the lines of "ToE doesn't deal with origins..." But I want to know what evolutionists actually think about the matter. Where did that supposed common ancestor come from? If all life shares this supposed CA (common ancestor), where did it come from?
I know that evolutionists first response will be "ToE doesn't deal with that..." I want to say rubbish. You must have some theory, idea, guess, or hypothosis of everything came from and how every life form got started and I would like you to share that.
(This thread is not for a regular old rehash of Creation v Evolution. I simply want to know where evolutionists believe it all started at.)In Christ, GB

I'd like to know what caused life to happen, given that we don't see new life happening anywhere.

 

[JustMeSee]

You first.

I was sure you /thread from here. You can't resist derailing?

 

[Blayz]

I'd like to know what caused life to happen,

It was uncaused, or followed naturally from base principles, which is kind of the same thing.

given that we don't see new life happening anywhere.

In the red corner, a bacteria that has spent 4000 million years adapting to survive in this world. In the blue corner, a cell that formed yesterday.

Anyone that would put money on the blue corner, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[SkyWriting]

It was uncaused, or followed naturally from base principles, which is kind of the same thing.

Hmm. Things that have no cause.
I just can't find that list:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Things+that+have+no+cause.&rlz=1C1CHMO_enUS497US497&sugexp=chrome,mod=15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



I've not yet read about these base principals!
They would be fun to work with in the lab.
What are they? We should be able to find
them at work everywhere.
I'll search for these principles.

No Google results found for "the base principles that form life".

No results found for "base principles that form life".

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No results found for "base principles for life".

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[Blayz]

Hmm. Things that have no cause.
I just can't find that list:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Thi...sugexp=chrome,mod=15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Well, google-fu is a skill. Have a look for, and a read around, "quantum mechanics" Which is a host of examples of "uncaused events", others include things like radioactive decay and electron shell energy transitions.

I've not yet read about these base principals!

Lots more reading for you then

They would be fun to work with in the lab.

Most things are.

We should be able to find
them at work everywhere.

Well, I don't see how that follows.

I'll search for these principles.

Good to hear.

No Google results found for "the base principles that form life".

No results found for "base principles that form life".

Keep trying, they are out there!

 

[Stephen Kendall]

Closed? Where the heck did God come from???????


What is life? We only know it as a part of the void. The tiny daylight between glimpses of darkness. So naturally God is supposed to be like our thoughts and observations. However, how do you comprehend things that you have no observation of? Reasoning and logicalness do not work when you haven't observed things that don't have beginnings or endings! Isn't that comforting to those of faith in Christ. It should be.

Since our existences most likely are the tiny daylights between our known deaths (the befores and afters), then how could life be known, except that we are observing it in the brief? That only proves our lack of knowledge and not knowledge of the unknown things that exist despite what we think that we know.

Yet, does our opinion mean anything beyond the grave. Absolutely not, since its power only affects our short excursion. Any body daring enough to give room for the unknown? Intelligence, I believe, begins with respect towards the truth. Anyone patient and honest enough to say those forever words in our glimpse of things will be remembered: "I don't know!" Dare to be what this world is not humble and respecting. Isn't this akin to loving and caring?

Have a good day.

 

[JustMeSee]

How did we get here? THe question has been asked by many but answered by few. Creationists will tell you that we are offspring of Adam and Eve. Evolutionists will say that we evolved upward from some distant apelike hominid somewhere in the past. I want to go back further. For Creationists, the answer is easy- God made Adam and Eve. That case is closed.

But for evolutionists the answer is not so easily put forth. Evolutionists always seem to respond with something along the lines of "ToE doesn't deal with origins..." But I want to know what evolutionists actually think about the matter. Where did that supposed common ancestor come from? If all life shares this supposed CA (common ancestor), where did it come from?

I know that evolutionists first response will be "ToE doesn't deal with that..." I want to say rubbish. You must have some theory, idea, guess, or hypothosis of everything came from and how every life form got started and I would like you to share that.


(This thread is not for a regular old rehash of Creation v Evolution. I simply want to know where evolutionists believe it all started at.)



In Christ, GB

I am far less concerned with where we came from than where we are going. Never really cared to give it much thought.

 

[good brother]

I am far less concerned with where we came from than where we are going. Never really cared to give it much thought.

How can you know where you're headed if you don't know where you're coming from?

 

[HitchSlap]

How can you know where you're headed if you don't know where you're coming from?

Wherever you go, there you are.

 

[good brother]

Wherever you go, there you are.

Clint Black, right?

 

[JustMeSee]

How can you know where you're headed if you don't know where you're coming from?

I know the road I have traveled.this is about life on earth and humanity.I don't need to know that answer personally.

 

[Jamin4422]

Wherever you go, there you are.

Wherever you go God is there.

 

[Shemjaza]

Wherever you go, there you are.

Buckaroo Banzai?

 

[mzungu]

Nothing exists but the atoms and the void (Democritus 460 BC).

I am made up of atoms and my atoms will forever exist, so no amount of going or praying will change the fact that I am essentially made up of the same stuff all life and non life is made of.

Where we come from is important to science (especially medicine and biology) and as a result is important to our daily life.

All life originated from a common relative; namely a primitive single celled organism. How that organism came to be will in time be answered and as far as I am concerned Heraclitus was basically right when he said: "This cosmos was neither made by God(s) nor man. It has existed and shall exist like the eternal flame"

 

[pgp_protector]

Wherever you go, there you are.

 

[mzungu]

How did we get here? One thing is for certain; We did not get here through theistic creation:

The Days of Genesis | Watch Free Documentary Online

 

[sfs]

Buckaroo Banzai?

Laugh while you can, monkey boy.

 

[good brother]

How did we get here? One thing is for certain; We did not get here through theistic creation:

The Days of Genesis | Watch Free Documentary Online

Oh, some random guy on the internet said the Bible is false? Well, I guess that settles it. I'm off to inform my fellow churchgoers some random guy on the internet said it was wrong. Guess all those fulfilled prophecies were lucky guesses since some random guy from the internet said it wasn't true.

This will certainly free up my Sundays and my need to follow any kind of moral compass. Thanks again.

Sarcasm hat off.

Really? That's your argument?

 

[Michael]

How did we get here? One thing is for certain; We did not get here through theistic creation:

That is a statement of faith on your part, and it depends entirely upon how one defines 'theistic creation'.