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How did these life evolved out?

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There is no "want" attached to this. That's what people keep trying to tell you.

I do believe, if evolution is true, fishes "want" to live on land. That is what people strongly suggested. If they didn't want, why did they DO that?
 
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Evolutionists:

Why would these animals want to evolve into this place where there is no sunlight, hot (300°C+) and crushing (~2000 atm) ?
Want?

That is stupid. They did not want to evolve.

This is ridiculous.
 
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I do believe, if evolution is true, fishes "want" to live on land. That is what people strongly suggested. If they didn't want, why did they DO that?
This is wrong. Other posters have lol'd at you because it is like saying Jesus wanted to be crucified: it's about as wrong as that would be.
 
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Why didn't life run away from the active volcanic environment? They do have enough time to escape, no matter now slow they crawl.
Because maybe the hot spots were created BY the fast movement of the continents?
 
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Deep sea life presents a similar question. Why were they there at the first place.
Assuming they didn't start there, deep sea life is there because slightly less deep sea life developed characteristics that enabled them to survive in deeper water. So they did. As I said, exactly the same as life everywhere else.
Deep sea life found around mid-ocean volcanic vent is one level above that. It is a special niche which has no reason to host any life migrated from outside.
"No reason to host any life migrated from outside"? What does that mean? Clearly, life can live there. That's a reason for life to live there.
We do not find normal deep sea life similar to those at the oceanic ridge.
No, we find life that very closely related to normal deep sea life. The worms are related to other worms, the shrimp are related to other shrimp, the fish are related to other fish. In other words, exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to see if other sea life had migrated there. On the other hand, there's no reason at all for a creator to make all of the organisms at hydrothermal vents look like close relatives of organisms that live in waters away from the vents, is there?
Crabs and shrimps, for example, occurred at both there and here, present a big problem for evolution (speciation).
If it presents a problem for evolution, I don't know what it is, and you certainly haven't articulated it in this thread.
 
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I do believe, if evolution is true, fishes "want" to live on land.
You may believe that, but your beliefs about evolution appear to have no connection to evolutionary biologists as it is known to scientists.
If they didn't want, why did they DO that?
I already told you: some of the them developed characteristics that let them live on land, at least a little. So they did. Why wouldn't they?
 
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I do believe, if evolution is true, fishes "want" to live on land. That is what people strongly suggested. If they didn't want, why did they DO that?
Fish don't want. Some fish got the ability to survive outside of water, and the ones that occasionally got out had plenty of food. Soon the best survivalists weren't the ones most willing, but the most able, as they all were willing. Then they started developing better lungs, etc. boom you have reptiles.

As for the bacteria, they seek food and flee heat. Some of them were better able to handle heat, so they continued to seek food in ares where the other bacteria didn't like to go. So there was more food. Probably some chemical coming from the vent, I'm not a marine biologist so I don't know. Eventually they started getting closer as they found more rock to cling to that wasn't taken. Those that could tolerate heat better could get to the open ground further into the vent.
 
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Assuming they didn't start there, deep sea life is there because slightly less deep sea life developed characteristics that enabled them to survive in deeper water. So they did. As I said, exactly the same as life everywhere else.

If so, why is there no fish there? Why is there no clams there?
 
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You may believe that, but your beliefs about evolution appear to have no connection to evolutionary biologists as it is known to scientists.

I already told you: some of the them developed characteristics that let them live on land, at least a little. So they did. Why wouldn't they?

Why did they "want" to develop that strange characters?
You want money. Do you know what does "want" mean? That is the essence of evolution.
 
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I already told you: some of the them developed characteristics that let them live on land, at least a little. So they did. Why wouldn't they?

Why do they want to develop that character? If they don't want, it won't happen.

Why would a shrimp "want" to live in a pitch dark bottom of sea? Why would a cold water shrimp "want" to approach boiling water in a volcanic area? I don't believe an evolutionist have a good reason for that.
 
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If so, why is there no fish there? Why is there no clams there?
Wikipedia is your friend:

"Chemosynthetic bacteria and archaea form the base of the food chain, supporting diverse organisms, including giant tube worms, clams, limpets and shrimp."

"The chemosynthetic bacteria grow into a thick mat which attracts other organisms, such as amphipods and copepods, which graze upon the bacteria directly. Larger organisms, such as snails, shrimp, crabs, tube worms, fish (especially eelpout, cutthroat eel, ophidiiforms and Symphurus thermophilus), and octopi (notably Vulcanoctopus hydrothermalis), form a food chain of predator and prey relationships above the primary consumers."
 
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Why did they "want" to develop that strange characters?
They didn't want to do anything. That question does not make any more sense if you ask it over and over again.
You want money. Do you know what does "want" mean? That is the essence of evolution.
Yes, I know what "want" means, and I know quite a lot about evolution, and I know that the two have nothing to do with one another. I don't know how you got the bizarre idea that wanting has anything to do with evolution, but your belief has nothing to do with reality.
 
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Why do they want to develop that character? If they don't want, it won't happen.

Why would a shrimp "want" to live in a pitch dark bottom of sea? Why would a cold water shrimp "want" to approach boiling water in a volcanic area? I don't believe an evolutionist have a good reason for that.
Remember what you have said in the past juvy; there are no bad teachers, only bad students. Someone is trying to teach you something in this thread.
 
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Why do they want to develop that character? If they don't want, it won't happen.
Your understanding of the world is so foreign to a scientific view that it is difficult to communicate here. Perhaps you should start analyzing your own views. Why do you think an organism has to want something for mutations to happen in its offspring? Do you think wood wants to burn? Do you think trees want to fall down when a hurricane hits? Do you think winds want to blow?
 
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