How did apes evolvle into humans?

Nathan Poe · Jul 6, 2005

A4C said:
Even the shredder doesn't obliterate the evidence that the copy actually existed.
Neither did the Flood

The evidence wasn't "obliterated," it was tossed into a landfill the size of the planet.

Find the fossils, and you find the copy.

A4C · Jul 6, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
To her credit, it took 8 pages before she threw in the towel.

It could be arranged that we could bring out the "big stick" in the OP if you would prefer.

nvxplorer · Jul 6, 2005

I'm curious, Carico.

Do you ever tire of regurgitating the same nonsense over and over and over...?

Are your posts written down? Your responses are so similar to each other, word for word, in every thread you start, here and at other forums, that it appears you think of nothing else. Is your day consumed by thoughts of inter-species reproduction? Are you confounded by evidence before there were "witnesses?" Do you daydream about hairless giants, chihuahuas and great danes?

What is your purpose here? You bring nothing original or logical to this board. Do you get satisfaction out of wasting the time of sincere people? Is ignorance, arrogance and stubbornness a Christian value? Are you here to sow anger?

I'm not a Christian, but as a human being I have a genuine concern for you. I hope you find what you're looking for, but if what you're looking for involves harming others, however trivial that harm may seem to you, I beg you to take your act elsewhere.

john crawford · Jul 6, 2005

random_guy said:
Well, I suggest before you even ask people for the answer, you should first learn what evolutionary theory states. Populations evolve, individuals don't. Understand this concept and the rest follows.

Populations don't evolve if individuals don't since mutations first occur on an individual basis.

Any theory of human evolution is racist since the first premise of human evolution is that the first African people closely resembled non-human ape-like creatures from Africa.

john crawford · Jul 6, 2005

Jimmy The Hand said:
populations evolve, not individuals.

That's the second time you've been told in this thread.

And about the 2000th time you've been told overall.

If individuals don't evolve, how can populations follow, despite your evolutionist rhetoric?

pantsman52 · Jul 6, 2005

john crawford said:
Populations don't evolve if individuals don't since mutations first occur on an individual basis.

Any theory of human evolution is racist since the first premise of human evolution is that the first African people closely resembled non-human ape-like creatures from Africa.

It is the mixing of genes in the population that does this though John. A population is going to evolve, not just an individual.

Hurr hurr RACISM!! EVOLUTION REFUTED!!

A4C · Jul 6, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
The evidence wasn't "obliterated," it was tossed into a landfill the size of the planet.

Find the fossils, and you find the copy.

Amazing that it takes 200 years and millions of dollars paid to a multitude of "highly educated " people to rummage through the "landfill" and come up with nothing
Why? Because there is nothing to find . The 100 missing "transitional" copies never existed . The photo copier just kept churning out copies of the originals and it is only copies of the originals that keep turning up at the landfill.

Nathan Poe · Jul 6, 2005

A4C said:
It could be arranged that we could bring out the "big stick" in the OP if you would prefer.

The "big stick" of "God is gonna get you" In the OP?

I'd really actually prefer that. It would save a lot of reading if I knew right away that a topic needs threats of damnation to keep it afloat.

Better still, just put "Believe me or go to Hell" in the thread title, and I can just laugh and move on...

nvxplorer · Jul 6, 2005

john crawford said:
Any theory of human evolution is racist since the first premise of human evolution is that the first African people closely resembled non-human ape-like creatures from Africa.

Oh dear.

I'm an atheist/agnostic and I'm begging, "Save me Lord!"

Nathan Poe · Jul 6, 2005

A4C said:
Amazing that it takes 200 years and millions of dollars paid to a multitude of "highly educated " people to rummage through the "landfill" and come up with nothing

Well, the Earth is a pretty big place. That's a lot of ground to cover.

Why? Because there is nothing to find .

Well thank you, Mr. Optimist. Aren't you a ray of sunshine?
We're just going to give up on that cure for cancer research too, while we're at it...

The 100 missing "transitional" copies never existed . The photo copier just kept churning out copies of the originals and it is only copies of the originals that keep turning up at the landfill.

And you'll notice that those copies look slightly different from one another. When you make a copy of a copy -- well, you know the rest.

john crawford · Jul 6, 2005

mikeynov said:
Read what I wrote. Keep rereading till it sinks in.

What you suggest here is rote learning, dogmatic repetition and propagandistic mind-control on the same level Madison Avenue sells American enterprise or the ex-Soviet Communists used to indoctrinate people.

Lighten up, will ya' and try to think with your own brain instead of someone else's for a change.

A4C · Jul 6, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
And you'll notice that those copies look slightly different from one another. When you make a copy of a copy -- well, you know the rest.

The photo copier that I use must have been designed by a creationist. You put in the original and you get multple copies of the SAME document
You must have one of those "evolution" designed ones then.

Natro · Jul 6, 2005

A4C said:
The photo copier that I use must have been designed by a creationist. You put in the original and you get multple copies of the SAME document
You must have one of those "evolution" designed ones then.

Thats improbable unless you have the Holy copier of perfection and the holy ink of the holy copier of perfection, because slight variations in the ink would make every copy different though tiny the change may be.

Osiris · Jul 6, 2005

A4C said:
The photo copier that I use must have been designed by a creationist. You put in the original and you get multple copies of the SAME document
You must have one of those "evolution" designed ones then.

What you are suggesting is that the species that lived millions of years ago are the only ones doing the reproduction. I think several people told you that organisms don't live forever. What is your excuse for this kind of reasoning now?

If you want to give an example with the copy machine, you have to put an original and then you get copy_1...

since organisms don't live forever , the original copy would now be discarded.
copy_1 will be put in the copy machine and copy_2 will come out...
copy_2 will be put in the copy machine and copy_3 will come out...
keep repeating this process and there will be a difference between the copies.

L'Anatra · Jul 6, 2005

Carico said:
Sorry, but your explanations are contradictory and blindsighted. But I guess you'll have to wait until you die to find out who created man. And I guarantee the experience won't be a pleasant one.

Sometimes I wonder if that "experience" would indeed be more pleasant than having to read and respond to the ravings of Carico.

Granted, I consider eternal hellfire to be illogical and unsupported by the Bible.

A4C · Jul 6, 2005

Of course I was speaking figuratively
No change in the "signature" of the original
No change in the "signature" of the copy

john crawford · Jul 6, 2005

pantsman52 said:
It is the mixing of genes in the population that does this though John. A population is going to evolve, not just an individual.

Hurr hurr RACISM!! EVOLUTION REFUTED!!

No individual evolution = no evolution.

pantsman52 · Jul 6, 2005

john crawford said:
No individual evolution = no evolution.

John, you know very well what I said.

Pete Harcoff · Jul 6, 2005

john crawford said:
Populations don't evolve if individuals don't since mutations first occur on an individual basis.

You need to look at it from the perspective of the gene pool. It's the gene pool which is made up of individuals. Over time, the gene pool will undergo variation. This is evolution.

It's counterintuative at first, but you need to think about the population and the effect on the overall gene pool as individuals in the population reproduce.

john crawford · Jul 6, 2005

nvxplorer said:
Oh dear.

I'm an atheist/agnostic and I'm begging, "Save me Lord!"

The Lord saves all unbelievers who ask for His help, as He did me.

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