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That's funny, since what I said is only based on what you said about God. So, I guess that would make sense
You said both you and God wanted what I wanted... I wanted you to answer the question.
Based on what you said, do please try and be accountable for what you just said, you will be going against what God wants if you don't.
So, will you answer?
Examine the claims of Christ and of the Dalai Lama. Come to your own conclusions.
I can't. I still have no spiritual method of determining truth from falsehood.I have no way of knowing. How do you know?
Your inability to answer the question says otherwise.I never said it was hard, in fact, I anticipated you saying exactly what you have.
Utter nonsense and avoidism. Explain how you know you're not deluded, or concede defeat.In response, I will simply tell you that if you do not believe you can know if you are delusional or not, you need to be concerned about yourself and the very real possibility that you are delusional and not concerned with questioning other people's beliefs.
If you are not willing to hear the truth, then no one can tell you. And you really do not want me to answer the question because the answer given will not be to your liking. That is why you act as if I have not answered you already when I have.
Yes. If you refuse to answer the question, the only conclusion is that you cannot answer the question, thus proving what we already know.Concede defeat?
Because this is a public forum and I will post as often as I like until the mods say otherwise. If you want to be left alone, then stop posting.See how stupid and silly this conversation is? Why not just understand that I am not going to answer your question to your liking and leave me alone?
38 pages and nothing but special pleading and circular reasoning.
Is that really all anyone has?
So there is something God cannot do (i.e., lie)? Then how is he omnipotent?
God can only do that which is consistent with His nature. He can't stop being God but He can do anything He sets out to do. This is a true meaning of omnipotence - the ability to do anything that one sets out to do.
It is part of His nature. God has a nature and His attributes operate within that nature, as does anything and everything else. God cannot do the logically impossible (Ie...make a square circle, ect...).
As The Messianic Manic pointed out, if omnipotence means that a being can only do that which is consistent with his or her nature and cannot do things which are not consistent with his or her nature, then you and I are also omnipotent.
I like easing human pain and suffering, education, meaningful experiences with loved ones, good food, art, music, and self reflection. You don't. at the end of the day, you're right. We all become worm food. You're born, then you die. What you do in between those two points in time is what matters. Life is beautiful and it's great to be alive. I pity those of you who hold such a despairing view of life.And then the question can be asked (with my atheist / relativist hat on)....
Who cares?
You lack belief in God, another person believes in God.
If there actually is no God and we as by-products of a blind evolutionary process are left to determine for ourselves what is meaningful, what is moral, what is ethical, what is desirable....
Then who cares?
You like roast beef, I like London Broil....
You like Pancakes, I like waffles..... at the end of the day all we are doing is trading and exchanging our opinions and preferences about certain subjects.....
You like Beethoven, I like Bach. At the end of the day we both die and become food for the worms.
What difference does it really all make?
I like easing human pain and suffering, education, meaningful experiences with loved ones, good food, art, music, and self reflection.
You don't. at the end of the day, you're right. We all become worm food. You're born, then you die. What you do in between those two points in time is what matters. Life is beautiful and it's great to be alive. I pity those of you who hold such a despairing view of life.
Yes, it's called religious oppression, and it's why I'm a humanist, and you are a nihilist. I pity your position.Some people like inflicting harm on others and making people suffer. Some people like raising their children by making them toil under hard labor and minimal to no education. Each culture does what it does based on what they value and if I am to speak as a consistent atheist and a consistent relativist I have to affirm that at the end of the day, their way of living is objectively and ultimately no better or worse than the culture that values easing human suffering and pain and good education.
Yes, it's called religious oppression, and it's why I'm a humanist, and you are a nihilist. I pity your position.
That is wonderful.
You like steak, I like chicken.
I pity you for liking steak. You pity me for liking chicken.
But either way, its just preference. You prefer (A) I prefer (B).
All we can do as consistent atheists and relativists is exchange opinions.
Which is better for humanity? Battery acid or chicken?
And then the question can be asked (with my atheist / relativist hat on)....
Who cares?
You lack belief in God, another person believes in God.
If there actually is no God and we as by-products of a blind evolutionary process are left to determine for ourselves what is meaningful, what is moral, what is ethical, what is desirable....
Then who cares?
You like roast beef, I like London Broil....
You like Pancakes, I like waffles..... at the end of the day all we are doing is trading and exchanging our opinions and preferences about certain subjects.....
You like Beethoven, I like Bach. At the end of the day we both die and become food for the worms.
What difference does it really all make?
As The Messianic Manic pointed out, if omnipotence means that a being can only do that which is consistent with his or her nature and cannot do things which are not consistent with his or her nature, then you and I are also omnipotent.
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