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bumpAnother question 'How do you explain the verse where God tells us that He knew us before we were?"
God is obviously referring to His Omniscience. The fact that past, present and future are all known to God. God is not under 'time' as time is known by us.
Isn't it great that God knows us from eternity past to eternity future? Since this is true, it is good to know that God already made his choice regarding his children. Thanks for the bump.bump
Wow, it's been awhile since I've read the universalists handbook. Your comments are textbook. Unfortunately for you they are also not biblically sound.
How does it feel to be a false teacher. I'm sure you can share that feeling with us.
Yawn...I don't care about your imagined greek prowess.I haven't given you my Greek exegesis, so this is a red herring fallacy of an answer.
Try to answer it this time.Isn't it great that God knows us from eternity past to eternity future? Since this is true, it is good to know that God already made his choice regarding his children. Thanks for the bump.
You have been shown to be wrong. You have ignored Romans 9, Ephesians 1 and Ephesians 2. You ignore the fact that Peter called the readers of his epistle, chosen. You repeatedly ignore the Bible and then cling to one sentence in one verse for your entire theological premise. Add to this that your views have been thoroughly rejected over the past 2000 years and it comes up to a grand total of false teaching on your part.That's straight from 2 Peter 2:1 (ESV). It is not a universalist view, but is a synergistic view, which you reject.
My views are profoundly biblical sound, as I've shown from Scripture. You are ignoring what I wrote.
Oz
Wonder no more. I do. And you can't choose what you believe.I'm wondering if you even know what choice is.
So I ask again (most likely to be wished away), if God's wrath is satisfied against the whole world, who goes to hell and why? It's obviously not for sin in your view.Preach Oz!
1 John 2:2 (ESV),
'He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world'
Well, that's not entirely true. People can choose from a plethora of false gods. They just can't choose the one true God. The Sovereign King of Creation.Wonder no more. I do. And you can't choose what you believe.
And you've experienced that when?When a Calvinistic evangelist doesn't share what he/she really believes about whether you can be saved, I find that to be dishonest.
That Calvinists change the definition of words.What stuff?
Oz, unless you're an open theist, you believe that God knows all things, which means He knows how many people will be in heaven and hell. Since He knows it, it's fixed.I'm not an Open Theist. Yes, God created people whom he knew (in his foreknowledge) would end up in hell. But he didn't send them there through double-predestination.
Where does Scripture teach that heaven and hell have fixed numbers?
Oz
Calvinists don't redefine words. The fact that you tote this lie gives evidence to desperation in a futile attempt to disprove Calvinism. What Calvinists do is examine the context of the words and use the correct definition (a lot of words have multiple definitions).This is bunk! We've shown you how Calvinists redefine 'all', 'any', 'whosoever', but you're not listenening.
Calvinists also distort the meaning of 'world'. See my articles,
Oz
Bump.Another question 'How do you explain the verse where God tells us that He knew us before we were?"
God is obviously referring to His Omniscience. The fact that past, present and future are all known to God. God is not under 'time' as time is known by us.
But even then, they won't chose one they think is false. Whatever they choose, they believe it to be true.Well, that's not entirely true. People can choose from a plethora of false gods. They just can't choose the one true God. The Sovereign King of Creation.
No.You wrote:
God is both inside of time as we experience it and outside of time as we experience it.
Do you experience life outside of time?
I agree.I am stating that God IS NOT held to time as we experience it on earth.
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