How can I know the difference between a test and a curse?

[Aaron112]

If I don't know how, will he let me die because of it?

Interjecting here. That's up to Him. He Declares Clearly "MY people perish for lack of <experiential?> knowledge."
and "People perish for lack of a vision"(of Life; His Way; Hope in Him and His Promises)...
and so on.....
With the many plagues today in the usa, many people are needlessly and hopelessly suffering and dying every day bcause they don't know (or practice/life) truth. Multitudes are tricked by the profit-makers (in medicine, religion, business, education, etc etc etc). To everyone's loss.

 

[timf]

Testing and curses may not be applicable to those saved by the gospel of grace.

When Feminism was starting to become popular in the 1970s a woman was being interviewed who lamented that less than 1% of the top executives of the biggest corporations were female. She declared that this was not fair. I had to chuckle at the time because she was naive enough to think that those positions had anything to do with capability. Those at that level allow entrance to others who have also gone to the right prep schools and whose families are acceptable.

Being excluded from "success" may incur financial difficulties, but also protects one from worldly influences which can be very corrupting.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Testing and curses may not be applicable to those saved by the gospel of grace.

I think the same, but I can't explain what is happening. If it's not a curse or a test, then what is it? What is happening?

When Feminism was starting to become popular in the 1970s a woman was being interviewed who lamented that less than 1% of the top executives of the biggest corporations were female. She declared that this was not fair. I had to chuckle at the time because she was naive enough to think that those positions had anything to do with capability. Those at that level allow entrance to others who have also gone to the right prep schools and whose families are acceptable.

Yes, exactly. Women are so easily seduced, with no thinking whatsoever.

Being excluded from "success" may incur financial difficulties, but also protects one from worldly influences which can be very corrupting.

Well, that's how this holy life started. At first I was extremely angry at God for it, but now I realize that He actually did two things for me: he gave me freedom from the world, and saved me from becoming of the world.
Because once you are of the world, you can never separate from it.

However, I am having financial difficulties, yes. And in the near future, I may die from it, assuming God will do nothing. It doesn't make any sense to me, why would God do everything in His path to keep me from all evils, and all forms of drunkness, and all lusts, if He's going to let me die?
The money is just the tip of the iceberg here. This is because, I know the law well, and I uphold the teachings, so even with money,m i would still say NO to any lust or mind-alternating thing. God didn't just cut the money to keep me safe, but He also cut my desire for lust. I have no lusts of any kind. This means that, with or without money, it's the same life.

I sometimes think if it's possible to become a saint by force. You feel indifferent about it, but God seems to "drag" you towards it. Is this common around the faithful?

 

[timf]

Most who claim Christ have been assured by their denominations that if they have met the denominational criteria, they are in good standing with God. As a result many think that Sunday church attendance is all this is more required. Most are unaware of the benefit they could achieve by walking by the Spirit instead of the flesh. The flesh pretty much defines selfishness whereas the approximation of Christ-likeness is the selflessness of love. We all fall short of this but those that understand it have a better chance of making spiritual progress.

What happens to us is not always necessarily of God.

Luk_13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

I can't remember where I heard the quote, "Chance and circumstance happens to us all".

 

[prudent_commenter]

Most who claim Christ have been assured by their denominations that if they have met the denominational criteria, they are in good standing with God. As a result many think that Sunday church attendance is all this is more required. Most are unaware of the benefit they could achieve by walking by the Spirit instead of the flesh. The flesh pretty much defines selfishness whereas the approximation of Christ-likeness is the selflessness of love. We all fall short of this but those that understand it have a better chance of making spiritual progress.

Yes, I call them lukewarm Christians. People that think reading a few words, and listening to a priest will uplift them. And me personally I don't care about what a man does when he is seen. It is what you do when no one sees you that matters.

I can't remember where I heard the quote, "Chance and circumstance happens to us all".

It never happened to me. Or.. maybe not yet. But after twenty years of disappointment, I don't know.

 

[Muhan]

And if this is a test, why? It's been going on for a lot of time now (years).

Thank you.

If you fail the test
you will know it was a curse.

 

[prudent_commenter]

If you fail the test
you will know it was a curse.

So you're saying, a test is only given for you to pass it?

 

[Muhan]

So you're saying, a test is only given for you to pass it?

Is that what I said?

 

[prudent_commenter]

Is that what I said?

No. I read to soon.

But it doesn't help me. I now know how to recognize these tests, but due to this, now I'm actively refusing to take them. As mentioned in previous posts, the more you refuse, the more it comes after you. Possibly attracting more curses. In man's society, the refusal of taking a test is instant fail. I wonder if this is not the same here.

 

[Aaron112]

Disobedience, timidity, drawing back self-protectedly not trusting God; examples of sin/ instant fail.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Disobedience, timidity, drawing back self-protectedly not trusting God; examples of sin/ instant fail.

It's drawing back from evil. I don't do evil, neither do I sustain it, or encourage it. All these tests are to showcase what I would do in certain situations. I refused all evils for thirty years. What more do I need to prove here, and to whom am I proving myself? I would assume God knows me well, to stop these tests.

 

[Aaron112]

I would assume God knows me well, to stop these tests.

Read in Scripture God's Own Word about tests and trials. It is entirely different than the way humans think.

What more do I need to prove here

"here" as 'on the internet' / forum ? Nothing can be proven here nor on the internet. Trust is not supported, not encouraged, and not sought. Money , power, profit, prestige, self-approval, is what drives the internet and forums.

and to whom am I proving myself?

No one here, or maybe those who live by the flesh/ world's way ? I don't know....

 

[prudent_commenter]

"here" as 'on the internet' / forum ? Nothing can be proven here nor on the internet. Trust is not supported, not encouraged, and not sought. Money , power, profit, prestige, self-approval, is what drives the internet and forums.

No one here, or maybe those who live by the flesh/ world's way ? I don't know....

No. I meant, why am I tested?

A man that doesn't follow society, and doesn't do evil, why would He be the subject of a test?

(I don't know if you are aware of my other thread, but I posted about a dream of God, and one of satan; the one from God told me to keep my word, and satan was disappointed that I'm not on his side). It could have a strong connection to this.

 

[Muhan]

No. I read to soon.

now I'm actively refusing to take them.

Zero is still a failing grade.

 

[prudent_commenter]

Zero is still a failing grade.

I don't know what to do. I've been tested all my life. From what I can tell, I've passed because I could not be seduced by society. I said a loud and categorical NO to everything created with intent of dragging the soul down. I thought for 30 years. I am starting to get tired of these traps laid out before me. I would've expected for all this to stop, based on my actions and thinking, there's no point in testing further if failure is off the table. I know myself very well, God knows too.. why test when you know I'll never succumb to something?

 

[Muhan]

I don't know what to do. I've been tested all my life. From what I can tell, I've passed because I could not be seduced by society. I said a loud and categorical NO to everything created with intent of dragging the soul down. I thought for 30 years. I am starting to get tired of these traps laid out before me. I would've expected for all this to stop, based on my actions and thinking, there's no point in testing further if failure is off the table. I know myself very well, God knows too.. why test when you know I'll never succumb to something?

If someone falls prey to their own understanding,
is that a curse or a blessing upon them?

 

[prudent_commenter]

If someone falls prey to their own understanding,
is that a curse or a blessing upon them?

If it wasn't for my own understanding, or my understanding through God, I would have become of the world. The Word is lived, I don't just say it like others.