How can any Christian vote for pro-abortion politicians?

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Governing a country is not only about abortion, it is just one of many issues. The problem with Christians in the US is that they have made it the ONLY issue on which one vote, meaning they allow other evils to flourish because of this one thing.
Is that really very unusual, though? Peculiar to the USA, I mean?

I don't think so. We can find many examples, in many different countries, of an overriding issue determining people's votes.

What's more, killing millions of innocent people does seem, wouldn't you agree, to be important enough to occupy that position in the minds of a lot of voters if anything would?

I am sure that whether to support a war or to oppose war was the one issue that people were voting on at times in the past in this country no more or less than it was in others.
 
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Abortion isn't a choice; it's taking an innocent life. Abortion advocates like to fancy themselves as "pro-choice," but such a term is misleading. It wouldn't make sense if I were to say that stealing is wrong, but I would never interfere in other people's right to choose to steal, and therefore conclude that theft shouldn't be a crime.

Many verses in the Bible testify to the fact that there is life in the womb. One such verse is Luke 1:41: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

How can any Christian vote for politicians who support abortion? That goes against God's teaching in the Bible not to murder (Exodus 20:13).
Welcome to the site. You should not open yourself up like that with that question. You'll learn. That was so easy to walk into for some.

IMO the answer is that they have deluded themselves into thinking that an unborn child is not life till born, even though that idea is contrary to scripture. Part of the delusion is that they have decided that they know better than God and can twist His Word and make Him say whatever they want Him to say and ignore anything that they do not like.

Bottom line: are you perfect? Do you sin? So do they. Even though both may be Christian. To God sin is sin. In committing one offense of the law one has sinned in all, so God's Word tells us.

The point might be better addressed with WHY? But again it could be that one is deluded to think that sexual perversion, a socialistic society which worships its govmnt, and baby murdering are a lesser priority than just voting against a wall-builder/protector or someone with red hair or with a prettier lovely wife, oh, or for being rich, as don't we know that money is the root of all evil? LOL If someone didn't catch that, it is the LOVE OF MONEY (GREED) not just money in itself, which is the root of all evil. 1 Tim 6:10

One could say that all of those going after the wealthy and trying to make them "PAY" are the ones who are really the evil ones filled with greed and covetousness.
 
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Abortion isn't a choice; it's taking an innocent life. Abortion advocates like to fancy themselves as "pro-choice," but such a term is misleading. It wouldn't make sense if I were to say that stealing is wrong, but I would never interfere in other people's right to choose to steal, and therefore conclude that theft shouldn't be a crime.

Many verses in the Bible testify to the fact that there is life in the womb. One such verse is Luke 1:41: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

How can any Christian vote for politicians who support abortion? That goes against God's teaching in the Bible not to murder (Exodus 20:13).
I agree we shouldn't be voting for any political party or politician who believes abortion should be legal. In fact, qe should only vote for Christian candidates who believe in upholding basic Biblical law and morality. With that in mind, believers might want to reconsider whether we vote at all. Especially so for candidates willing to uphold our godless constitution.
 
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IMO the answer is that they have deluded themselves into thinking that an unborn child is not life till born, even though that idea is contrary to scripture..
It also makes them "opposed to science," one of the currently most fashionable of put-downs in our society.
 
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I agree we shouldn't be voting for any political party or politician who believes abortion should be legal. In fact, qe should only vote for Christian candidates who believe in upholding basic Biblical law and morality.
With that in mind, believers might want to reconsider whether we vote at all. Especially so for candidates willing to uphold our godless constitution.
If you don't vote--and yet there is a candidate who shares your moral convictions--isn't that wrong?
 
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If you don't vote--and yet there is a candidate who shares your moral convictions--isn't that wrong?
Not if you believe swearing to uphold a godless constitution is sin.

In looking at the choices for President it seems to me both parties have nominated a candidate unqualified for office from a Christian perspective. Down ballot is different for everyone, some may have worthy candidates to vote for and others may not.
 
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Not if you believe swearing to uphold a godless constitution is sin.
The Constitution is godless?

In looking at the choices for President it seems to me both parties have nominated a candidate unqualified for office from a Christian perspective.
Do you have only two candidates on the ballot in your state?

And, by the way, one of those two is committed to reducing if not eliminating abortions while the other is all for abortion on demand. Isn't that a difference that might deserve a vote from a voter such as yourself?
 
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Do you have only two candidates on the ballot in your state?
I don't know what state he lives in, but I can say no, because every single state this election has at least three candidates in the presidential election. Most have at least four.
 
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How can any Christian vote for politicians who support abortion? That goes against God's teaching in the Bible not to murder (Exodus 20:13).
There are genuine Christians and there are “nominal“ Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers.
 
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The Constitution is godless?


Do you have only two candidates on the ballot in your state?

And, by the way, one of those two is committed to reducing if not eliminating abortions while the other is all for abortion on demand. Isn't that a difference that might deserve a vote from a voter such as yourself?
Where is God mentioned in the Constitution? Where does the Constitution say the power of the state comes from God?

Obviously there are third party candidates to vofe for, though I am personally uninterested in them. I am abstaining from voting at the top of the ticket.

Beyond that, there are more issues out there besides abortion. Trump says he's pro-life but he's also a serial liar who is unkind to people as a matter of course. Character matters too.
 
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Any other time I might agree with OP but Trump changes everything.

The integrity of everything good that the U.S. stands for is at stake.
Stop reading the tabloid gossip and listening to the devil. Satan means "accuser of the brethren" - don't participate. Start connecting with your mind and your spirit and looking at the actual issues - Trump has a near 4 years history - so no excuse on Judgement day. Trump has demonstrated a consistency on pro-Christian (anti in-womb baby killing and destroying political correctness), pro free enterprise, pro law and order, and anti-socialist issues in his first term. Biden is very corrupt (ill gotten gain) and represents the opposite. Just listen to Joe stumble - still running for Senate? What do you actually get if you vote for Joe because with his mental condition he is at best a puppet.
 
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Stop reading the tabloid gossip and listening to the devil. Satan means "accuser of the brethren" - don't play his games. Start connecting with your spirit and looking at the issues - Trump has a near 4 years history. Trump has demonstrated a consistency on pro-Christian, pro free enterprise, and anti-socialist issues in his first term.
Do you really want to bring the devil into this?
 
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Is that really very unusual, though? Peculiar to the USA, I mean?

I don't think so. We can find many examples, in many different countries, of an overriding issue determining people's votes.

What's more, killing millions of innocent people does seem, wouldn't you agree, to be important enough to occupy that position in the minds of a lot of voters if anything would?

I am sure that whether to support a war or to oppose war was the one issue that people were voting on at times in the past in this country no more or less than it was in others.
I don't think it is unusual to choose a candidate for one particular reason, but it does only seem to be in the USA where Christians vote for a particular party just because of abortion.

The Republicans could say that Christianity will banned and all Christians will be put in prison... but as long as the Democrats say that they are in favour of abortion, Christians will still vote against them. This is crazy!

Any voting should be about all of the issues and that may mean weighing up the pros and cons of both sides and which has a greater impact.

Under Trump's leadership some of the greatest laws in favour of abortion have been enacted (e.g. New York), so it has nothing to do with a national level of voting.
 
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Abortion isn't a choice; it's taking an innocent life. Abortion advocates like to fancy themselves as "pro-choice," but such a term is misleading. It wouldn't make sense if I were to say that stealing is wrong, but I would never interfere in other people's right to choose to steal, and therefore conclude that theft shouldn't be a crime.

Many verses in the Bible testify to the fact that there is life in the womb. One such verse is Luke 1:41: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

How can any Christian vote for politicians who support abortion? That goes against God's teaching in the Bible not to murder (Exodus 20:13).
They can't
 
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Under Trump's leadership some of the greatest laws in favour of abortion have been enacted (e.g. New York), so it has nothing to do with a national level of voting.
That is twisted reasoning. Trump, the Republican Party had nothing to do with that and you know this.

But you are right if we don't put these issues to rest in the town halls we will not at city, state, and national level.
 
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Beyond that, there are more issues out there besides abortion. Trump says he's pro-life but he's also a serial liar who is unkind to people as a matter of course. Character matters too.
Look at the issues - you will be accountable on Judgement day.
 
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Look at the issues. What does Trump and Biden stand for. You will accountable on Judgement day.
They're both out of control deficit spenders who are completely uninterested in our wicked national debt which is now over $27 trillion. Both believe in growing the size and scope of the government, albeit in different ways. They both favor homosexuality and homosexual marriage.

You want to toss around thinly veiled threats about judgment day, I would toss it back at you. You will have to answer for voting for a twice divorced serial whoremonger and liar who has expanded the national debt by $7 trillion in 4 years, waves wicked rainbow flags and who hasn't picked up a Bible to do anything more than a photo op in his life. All because he's pro-life, as though there aren't any other issues of major importance to Christians.
 
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I don't think it is unusual to choose a candidate for one particular reason, but it does only seem to be in the USA where Christians vote for a particular party just because of abortion.
That could be, but even in today's world, religion has a greater importance to Americans than it does to the citizens of almost any other country, at least according to studies and polls that are regularly conducted.

So if we realize this, the situation we have been discussing shouldn't seem too surprising. Of course, a large number of Americans, Christians included, go the other way on this issue, too.

The Republicans could say that Christianity will banned and all Christians will be put in prison... but as long as the Democrats say that they are in favour of abortion, Christians will still vote against them. This is crazy!
It might be...if the Republicans had any intention of banning Christianity or putting Christians into prison. But because none of that reflects the actual political situation, what's there to evaluate??
 
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