Horse Slaughter

[alwayz_remember_Calvery]

On Friday the House passed a bill banning horse slaughter...what do you guys think about it?

 

[Tumbleweed64]

On Friday the House passed a bill banning horse slaughter...what do you guys think about it?

I think it's great! wonderful! awesome!

 

[Sabina41]

It's about time!!!! Yay!!!! Please pray that it passes the Senate. The slaughter of American horses to please the gourmet tastes of foreigners is a sick, twisted, cruel business and it needs to be stopped. Praise God for the House of Representatives!

-Ashley

 

[Sabina41]

Actually as soon as I posted that I googled "house representatives horse slaughter ban" and came up with 6/8/05 as the date that that particular bill passed the House. Has new movement been made on it? If so, can you post a link to where you found that information?

 

[alwayz_remember_Calvery]

There are two, both from October 28, 2005

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801171.html

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--horseslaughter1028oct28,0,3400053.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

 

[Sabina41]

Thanks for posting those! I'm so glad to see that. It passed by 318-63! That's great! Hopefully the Senate will approve it and we can get those slaughter houses shut down for good!

-Ashley

 

[encouraging loves animals]

its great. horses are beautiful creature.

 

[country woman]

Thats wonderful to hear since horses are my favorite animals.

 

[alwayz_remember_Calvery]

So, now what are we going to do with the thousands of horses that are normally sent to slaughter?
Personally, i hope the senate doesnt pass it. I hope for a law that will require it to be more humane, but not ban it all together

 

[HeDied4Me]

So, now what are we going to do with the thousands of horses that are normally sent to slaughter?
Personally, i hope the senate doesnt pass it. I hope for a law that will require it to be more humane, but not ban it all together

Much as I hate the thought of any horse being killed, I agree. If horse slaughter is not allowed, shelters would have more horses than they could keep, and there would most likely be many more neglected or homeless horses.

 

[Sabina41]

So, now what are we going to do with the thousands of horses that are normally sent to slaughter?
Personally, i hope the senate doesnt pass it. I hope for a law that will require it to be more humane, but not ban it all together

Why wouldn't you want them to pass it? Are you afraid we're suddenly going to be overburdened and innudated with excess horses?

This country has been moving toward this eventuality since the fifties when the slaughter of mustangs was halted. And guess what happened- they're still there and BLM developed an adoption program and keeps the numbers managable. Maybe if horse owners in this country followed reasonable breeding practices and didn't just breed every ho-hum mare in their backyard paddock we wouldn't have an overflow of ponies and horses. Also, if the racing industry practiced a little bit of the same wisdom or took just a little bit of time to retrain their animals so they weren't all nutso straight off the track, people would take an interest in them as well. Stop the use of drugs that exploit horses and perpetuate their slaughter (i.e. Premarin and PMU babies). Knowledgable horse owners themselves should step up and assist rescue organizations in their area. There is a major horse auction located about three hours from my house. One of my mom's good friend's runs a horse rescue and drives up there to buy horses from the kill pen just to save them and give them a second chance. Then my mom fosters them at her house, rehabilitates them, and cares for them until they're adopted. Other horse owners should be doing the same.

It's not just the old, sick, injured, worn-out etc. that end up at slaughter, it's children's lesson ponies, back yard horses, show horses, thoroughbred race horses, all types and they're all worth saving. Horses are no more disposable than your dog or cat. Do you think it's right to just abandon your dog or cat at a shelter whenever you feel like just getting a new one? It's the same for horses. Just dumping your horse at the closest auction so you can get an upgrade is unacceptable. Equestrians make a deal with their animals to care for them until death or find them a suitable home if need be, the same way we do our dogs and cats.


Oh and, more humane?? it's still slaughter.......Anything that involves a bolt gun to the head and bleeding out will never be humane.

 

[alwayz_remember_Calvery]

Why wouldn't you want them to pass it? Are you afraid we're suddenly going to be overburdened and innudated with excess horses?

The simple answer, Yes. One thing ya'll gotta remember is that horses are LIVESTOCK, not pets. Currently our market is being flooded with horses and if we lose our slaughter houses then the price of horses is going to hit rock bottom.

Maybe if horse owners in this country followed reasonable breeding practices and didn't just breed every ho-hum mare in their backyard paddock we wouldn't have an overflow of ponies and horses.

that would be nice, but there are WAY to many people who wont. It's just like the dog and cat population, the only difference is we have animal shelters that are willing to put down animals that they can't adopt out. Don't get me wrong, i don't LIKE the idea of putting animals to sleep or horse slaughter, but i see it as a necessary evil.

Also, if the racing industry practiced a little bit of the same wisdom or took just a little bit of time to retrain their animals so they weren't all nutso straight off the track, people would take an interest in them as well.

Yeah, that would be nice, but i don't see it happening. Most racehorse trainers want their horses to do one thing, run. Then again that are a lot of people out there that own OTTB.

Stop the use of drugs that exploit horses and perpetuate their slaughter (i.e. Premarin and PMU babies).

i agree that this is a major problem, but not the only problem.

Knowledgable horse owners themselves should step up and assist rescue organizations in their area. There is a major horse auction located about three hours from my house. One of my mom's good friend's runs a horse rescue and drives up there to buy horses from the kill pen just to save them and give them a second chance. Then my mom fosters them at her house, rehabilitates them, and cares for them until they're adopted. Other horse owners should be doing the same.

that would be nice, but not everyone has the resources to do it. Take myself for example. I'm a college student, i have no money all of the time and any money that i do get goes straight into savings to try to pay off my loans, or to pay for next year. Some horse owners don't have the land available to them.

It's not just the old, sick, injured, worn-out etc. that end up at slaughter, it's children's lesson ponies, back yard horses, show horses, thoroughbred race horses, all types and they're all worth saving. Horses are no more disposable than your dog or cat. Do you think it's right to just abandon your dog or cat at a shelter whenever you feel like just getting a new one? It's the same for horses. Just dumping your horse at the closest auction so you can get an upgrade is unacceptable. Equestrians make a deal with their animals to care for them until death or find them a suitable home if need be, the same way we do our dogs and cats.

i agree, every kind of horse ends up in the slaughter houses. I also agree that horses aren't any more disposable than a dog or cat, but millions of dogs and cats get put to sleep each year, we're going to lose this option with horses.

Oh and, more humane?? it's still slaughter.......Anything that involves a bolt gun to the head and bleeding out will never be humane.

more humane treatment in the shipping and before they get killed.

Now, i understand that not everyone is going to agree with what i say. I'm also sure that most people who say that are animal lovers who don't want to see any animal killed. I also realize that most of you aren't horse owners, you're people who like to watch horses run in the races, barrel race, go to the olympics, etc. but don't understand the horse industry.
For those of you who are in the horse industry (whether it's training, breeding, showing, or just hacking around on the trails) you know what kind of impact this will make on the horse industry and chances are it isn't going to be pretty.

 

[Tumbleweed64]

Why wouldn't you want them to pass it? Are you afraid we're suddenly going to be overburdened and innudated with excess horses?

This country has been moving toward this eventuality since the fifties when the slaughter of mustangs was halted. And guess what happened- they're still there and BLM developed an adoption program and keeps the numbers managable. Maybe if horse owners in this country followed reasonable breeding practices and didn't just breed every ho-hum mare in their backyard paddock we wouldn't have an overflow of ponies and horses. Also, if the racing industry practiced a little bit of the same wisdom or took just a little bit of time to retrain their animals so they weren't all nutso straight off the track, people would take an interest in them as well. Stop the use of drugs that exploit horses and perpetuate their slaughter (i.e. Premarin and PMU babies). Knowledgable horse owners themselves should step up and assist rescue organizations in their area. There is a major horse auction located about three hours from my house. One of my mom's good friend's runs a horse rescue and drives up there to buy horses from the kill pen just to save them and give them a second chance. Then my mom fosters them at her house, rehabilitates them, and cares for them until they're adopted. Other horse owners should be doing the same.

It's not just the old, sick, injured, worn-out etc. that end up at slaughter, it's children's lesson ponies, back yard horses, show horses, thoroughbred race horses, all types and they're all worth saving. Horses are no more disposable than your dog or cat. Do you think it's right to just abandon your dog or cat at a shelter whenever you feel like just getting a new one? It's the same for horses. Just dumping your horse at the closest auction so you can get an upgrade is unacceptable. Equestrians make a deal with their animals to care for them until death or find them a suitable home if need be, the same way we do our dogs and cats.


Oh and, more humane?? it's still slaughter.......Anything that involves a bolt gun to the head and bleeding out will never be humane.

I couldn't have said it better myself

 

[sk8Joyful]

Stop the use of drugs that exploit horses and perpetuate their slaughter (i.e. Premarin and PMU babies). Knowledgable horse owners themselves should step up and assist rescue organizations in their area. There is a major horse auction located about three hours from my house. One of my mom's good friend's runs a horse rescue and drives up there to buy horses from the kill pen just to save them and give them a second chance. Then my mom fosters them at her house, rehabilitates them, and cares for them until they're adopted. Other horse owners should be doing the same.

It's not just the old, sick, injured, worn-out etc. that end up at slaughter, it's children's lesson ponies, back yard horses, show horses, thoroughbred race horses, all types and they're all worth saving. Horses are no more disposable than your dog or cat. Do you think it's right to just abandon your dog or cat at a shelter whenever you feel like just getting a new one? It's the same for horses. Just dumping your horse at the closest auction so you can get an upgrade is unacceptable. Equestrians make a deal with their animals to care for them until death or find them a suitable home if need be, the same way we do our dogs and cats.

Oh and, more humane?? it's still slaughter.......Anything that involves a bolt gun to the head and bleeding out will never be humane.

Hear Here: Well said again, Sabina!

And tho this is the 'Animal & pet"-section,
this very same 'slaughtering' continues happening in the *human*-arena also. - How do I know? - worked as a nurse, in almost every Specialty for 32 yrs., and Euthanasia is practiced routinely, commonly via 'dehydrating, and after electrolyte-balance is destroyed, people are injected with powerful drugs shutting-down the brain-heart-lungs, and remaining vital organs. -
We lost the ability to track how many people died from Anesthesia-induced death, because hospitals increasingly aren't doing post-mortems.

I wonder if Congress will ever pass Laws forbidding these 2 practice; - and how many people will object to that also.

 

[Sabina41]

I also realize that most of you aren't horse owners, you're people who like to watch horses run in the races, barrel race, go to the olympics, etc. but don't understand the horse industry.
For those of you who are in the horse industry (whether it's training, breeding, showing, or just hacking around on the trails) you know what kind of impact this will make on the horse industry and chances are it isn't going to be pretty.

I have grown up with horses all my life, currently have three and ride on the equestrian team at my school.



We need to change our attitude. Simply throwing up our hands and saying, oh well things are such right now that we would be overloaded, is sad to me. With the way we currently manage and treat horses, yes we probably would be. If we recognized them as feeling animals on the same level as dogs and cats we wouldn't dispose of them so easily. I have little issue with the slaughter of true livestock (despite my vegetarianism) because their meat then serves a purpose for others. Killing horses (that by the way were not raised for the purposeof being feed, how unhealthy and unsanitary is that) just because there are too many does not.

-Ashley

 

[Lozza]

Excellent!

There's a petition about it that I signed ages ago.
http://www.fund4horses.org/vigil.php if anybody wants to take a look

 

[safyrmariposa]

On Friday the House passed a bill banning horse slaughter...what do you guys think about it?

Finally lol!

 

[Tumbleweed64]

Excellent!

There's a petition about it that I signed ages ago.
http://www.fund4horses.org/vigil.php if anybody wants to take a look

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