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So I have been having horrible blasphemous thoughts for a few years now. I can't seem to make them go away and have prayed that Jesus would heal my mind and give me a new mind and take away these evil thoughts. The thoughts are full of cursing, sexual context, and hatred against Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and really anything of God. I do not want to have these thoughts and have to continually ask the Lord to forgive me for these thoughts. I feel like sometimes I am so consumed by these evil thoughts. Sometimes I can't tell if they are really my own thoughts or if they are intrusive thoughts. I have never been formally diagnosed with OCD but I am pretty sure that I have it because along with the blasphemous thoughts, I will have other thoughts that if I don't do something then something bad will happen. Also, it seems to affect my feelings, I will feel like I am really in love with God and the thoughts aren't there as much(though they are still there) and then the next second, I feel like I may be against God(though I do not want to be and I will pray and ask God to help me be for Him and not against Him). Does this sound like OCD or something else? I feel like it may be OCD with maybe a little bipolar as well because of the fact my feelings change and flucuate so quickly.
 

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So I have been having horrible blasphemous thoughts for a few years now. I can't seem to make them go away and have prayed that Jesus would heal my mind and give me a new mind and take away these evil thoughts. The thoughts are full of cursing, sexual context, and hatred against Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and really anything of God. I do not want to have these thoughts and have to continually ask the Lord to forgive me for these thoughts. I feel like sometimes I am so consumed by these evil thoughts. Sometimes I can't tell if they are really my own thoughts or if they are intrusive thoughts. I have never been formally diagnosed with OCD but I am pretty sure that I have it because along with the blasphemous thoughts, I will have other thoughts that if I don't do something then something bad will happen. Also, it seems to affect my feelings, I will feel like I am really in love with God and the thoughts aren't there as much(though they are still there) and then the next second, I feel like I may be against God(though I do not want to be and I will pray and ask God to help me be for Him and not against Him). Does this sound like OCD or something else? I feel like it may be OCD with maybe a little bipolar as well because of the fact my feelings change and flucuate so quickly.
Hi; Philippians 4.8 is a great verse. :)

Also, Hebrews 12.2.

(Great verses also on your header: Proverbs 3.5-6).
 
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I have never been formally diagnosed with OCD but I am pretty sure that I have it because along with the blasphemous thoughts, I will have other thoughts that if I don't do something then something bad will happen.
The first thing you should do is go to a psychiatrist for a diagnosis.

In the meantime, ignore the others who are telling you that this is the "devil giving you these thoughts". They're not even supposed to be saying that kind of stuff on the Mental Health forums.
 
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It could be spiritual. It likely is. Here is the thing; this seems to be a problem for MANY Christians. Many. You are not alone is this. I struggle with the same. It is extremely annoying. But not uncommon. I will pm you.
 
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So I have been having horrible blasphemous thoughts for a few years now. I can't seem to make them go away and have prayed that Jesus would heal my mind and give me a new mind and take away these evil thoughts. The thoughts are full of cursing, sexual context, and hatred against Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and really anything of God. I do not want to have these thoughts and have to continually ask the Lord to forgive me for these thoughts. I feel like sometimes I am so consumed by these evil thoughts. Sometimes I can't tell if they are really my own thoughts or if they are intrusive thoughts. I have never been formally diagnosed with OCD but I am pretty sure that I have it because along with the blasphemous thoughts, I will have other thoughts that if I don't do something then something bad will happen. Also, it seems to affect my feelings, I will feel like I am really in love with God and the thoughts aren't there as much(though they are still there) and then the next second, I feel like I may be against God(though I do not want to be and I will pray and ask God to help me be for Him and not against Him). Does this sound like OCD or something else? I feel like it may be OCD with maybe a little bipolar as well because of the fact my feelings change and flucuate so quickly.
You have OCD! Oh, wait, I'm not a doctor. :) So yes, take my advice with a grain of salt, but I will tell you that it looks very much like OCD to me. I've had OCD/scrupulosity since I was eight, and have had many different themes (that's obsessions), and they all act pretty much like this. I'm going to send you a pm. <staff edit> I do believe that it is highly treatable and that there is a lot of hope for living victoriously over it!
 
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I just feel so tired of all of this. The thoughts start as soon as I open my eyes till the time I close my eyes and sometimes they even follow me into my dreams. I can't even tell sometimes, most of the time, if these are my thoughts or thoughts that just enter my mind. I feel like every day I'm getting farther from Jesus and becoming isolated from Him. I don't want to think evil against Him I want to be His. Then there's this struggle with sinning and it is so habitual. I find myself lying every day and thinking hateful things towards others. I beg Jesus to help me with these things but I still find myself doing them. In the moment I do them it's like I know it's wrong but to a point don't care. I want to care, I want to live for Jesus. But, in some ways I feel like I'm too far gone, even though I trust He came to earth and died for me and rose again, I still feel like maybe I'm just too far gone. When I pray and try to read the Bible I just feel like I am being so fake and insincere. I really don't know what I'm becoming or what to do. It almost feels like all the evil thoughts are starting to harden my heart and make me just want to give up.
 
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I just feel so tired of all of this. The thoughts start as soon as I open my eyes till the time I close my eyes and sometimes they even follow me into my dreams. I can't even tell sometimes, most of the time, if these are my thoughts or thoughts that just enter my mind. I feel like every day I'm getting farther from Jesus and becoming isolated from Him. I don't want to think evil against Him I want to be His. Then there's this struggle with sinning and it is so habitual. I find myself lying every day and thinking hateful things towards others. I beg Jesus to help me with these things but I still find myself doing them. In the moment I do them it's like I know it's wrong but to a point don't care. I want to care, I want to live for Jesus. But, in some ways I feel like I'm too far gone, even though I trust He came to earth and died for me and rose again, I still feel like maybe I'm just too far gone. When I pray and try to read the Bible I just feel like I am being so fake and insincere. I really don't know what I'm becoming or what to do. It almost feels like all the evil thoughts are starting to harden my heart and make me just want to give up.
I once struggled like you are struggling. Jesus overcame it for me, and He will overcome it for you as well, but you do need help from other Christians.

I'm sending you a PM. :)
 
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Merely having those thoughts is not a sin you need to be confessing. It's normal. The best thing you can do is ignore it and focus on other things that are more positive.
This is an excellent point. Those of us with OCD tend to place way too much value on our thoughts. This can be extremely discouraging, because the way our brains work is that we become so afraid of doing something (e.g. blaspheming), that our sadistic OCD brain actually sends more of the thoughts! It's like telling yourself, "Thinking of a pink elephant is terrible and wrong. I must not think of a pink elephant. I've got to stop thinking about pink elephants!" Of course, your brain will do nothing but send you thoughts of pink elephants. That's why one of the key strategies for OCD is to ignore the intrusive thoughts, even though it feels terribly wrong to do so. We feel like we have to push them away, cancel them out, or ask forgiveness for them. But the truth is, it's just our overloaded brain pushing out the thoughts because it knows we're so afraid of them. By ignoring the thoughts, we're training our brain that the thoughts are meaningless and we don't have to be afraid of them. Consequently, our fear diminishes, and - surprise! - so do the thoughts.
 
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I just feel so tired of all of this. The thoughts start as soon as I open my eyes till the time I close my eyes and sometimes they even follow me into my dreams. I can't even tell sometimes, most of the time, if these are my thoughts or thoughts that just enter my mind. I feel like every day I'm getting farther from Jesus and becoming isolated from Him. I don't want to think evil against Him I want to be His. Then there's this struggle with sinning and it is so habitual. I find myself lying every day and thinking hateful things towards others. I beg Jesus to help me with these things but I still find myself doing them. In the moment I do them it's like I know it's wrong but to a point don't care. I want to care, I want to live for Jesus. But, in some ways I feel like I'm too far gone, even though I trust He came to earth and died for me and rose again, I still feel like maybe I'm just too far gone. When I pray and try to read the Bible I just feel like I am being so fake and insincere. I really don't know what I'm becoming or what to do. It almost feels like all the evil thoughts are starting to harden my heart and make me just want to give up.



Casey hi my posts were taken down about my testimony. I do not know if you saw them. I sent prayers to you. Through Christ I have overcame these negative thoughts. It is by fasting, submission and focusing on Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit; has helped me surpass what was happening to me. God will reveal to you what is truly causing these thoughts to occur. So long as you fast. It is in my experience that mine came because the enemy saw that I had weaknesses. He noticed my mind wasn't focused on Jesus AKA I began to be in the bible more than I ever had before. God disciplines us its how we grow in Christ. Although I do not know you personally and I am not a psychiatrist. I am going to grad school to be a school psychologist. I also want to be a pastor. I have learned a lot in undergrad and plan to learn and grow a lot more. I do not know if you were diagnosed with OCD and I do not know a lot about you but I only want to help. If you will accept my help.
Although mental health disorders and illnesses can be formed from nature or nurture only God has the answers. He has all the wisdom and this is what is in his revealed word the bible. Just keep pushing and do not give up that is what the enemy wants. Hold on to your faith. God bless.

When you pray I do not know if you know this but use scripture when praying. It helps and it is important it shows obedience and trust in the Lord. Also his word is light his word is Jesus so by also praying scripture your prayers become stronger. The sword of truth Ephesians 6. Acknowledge God in everything you do and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3: 6

Here are some bible verses that really help me.
Ephesians 4: 17-24 New Life in Christ/ Put away the old self
Ephesians 6: The Whole Armour of God - Pray this before you go to sleep and when you wake up.
Psalms 4:8 Sleep in peace
Isaiah 26: 4 Trust in the Lord
 
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Casey hi my posts were taken down about my testimony. I do not know if you saw them. I sent prayers to you. Through Christ I have overcame these negative thoughts. It is by fasting, submission and focusing on Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit; has helped me surpass what was happening to me. God will reveal to you what is truly causing these thoughts to occur. So long as you fast. It is in my experience that mine came because the enemy saw that I had weaknesses. He noticed my mind wasn't focused on Jesus AKA I began to be in the bible more than I ever had before. God disciplines us its how we grow in Christ. Although I do not know you personally and I am not a psychiatrist. I am going to grad school to be a school psychologist. I also want to be a pastor. I have learned a lot in undergrad and plan to learn and grow a lot more. I do not know if you were diagnosed with OCD and I do not know a lot about you but I only want to help. If you will accept my help.
Although mental health disorders and illnesses can be formed from nature or nurture only God has the answers. He has all the wisdom and this is what is in his revealed word the bible. Just keep pushing and do not give up that is what the enemy wants. Hold on to your faith. God bless.

When you pray I do not know if you know this but use scripture when praying. It helps and it is important it shows obedience and trust in the Lord. Also his word is light his word is Jesus so by also praying scripture your prayers become stronger. The sword of truth Ephesians 6. Acknowledge God in everything you do and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3: 6

Here are some bible verses that really help me.
Ephesians 4: 17-24 New Life in Christ/ Put away the old self
Ephesians 6: The Whole Armour of God - Pray this before you go to sleep and when you wake up.
Psalms 4:8 Sleep in peace
Isaiah 26: 4 Trust in the Lord
Thank you so much for your kind reply. May I PM you?
 
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I’ve had this very same thing before regarding blasphemous thoughts so Vile that it defies description had it for quite a few years got so bad that not only were they thought but they wanted to come out of my mouth constantly having urges to speak and say something that even when I would have slip of the tongue I knew it wasn’t me I knew my heart wasn’t like that I personally don’t think blasphemy is saying a certain phrase or syllable of words and then you’re cut off from God forever...... it’s a condition of the heart but how our brains are able to make us feel like we would want to curse God or even the Holy Ghost and say mean things against God not only in Our head but out of our mouth I just came to the place that after doing so many compulsions and making it sound worse I finally stopped doing it myself and said I don’t care if it comes out of my mouth or in my head I know that I love God and I know that you save me and God’s not gonna let me go and that’s that I still deal with it but I just ignore it like a drunk guy yelling on the street and cursing out loud............ I’ll say this I had to just worship,read, and pray Despite my feelings changing every two seconds to craziness and alsoknowing that the thought would come in full force......everything I would read it would be twisted into something ungodly or sickening in my head.....it seemed every second my mind was conjuring up a new thought that would get stuck in my head it was absolutely crazy Second after second one thought after another new thoughts coming every second I could not stop it it was like a radio flipping through all the channels at lightning speed but again I just came to the place I’ll let my mind think it I let whatever happens happens and know that God is God and that’s enough amen
 
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This is an excellent point. Those of us with OCD tend to place way too much value on our thoughts. This can be extremely discouraging, because the way our brains work is that we become so afraid of doing something (e.g. blaspheming), that our sadistic OCD brain actually sends more of the thoughts! It's like telling yourself, "Thinking of a pink elephant is terrible and wrong. I must not think of a pink elephant. I've got to stop thinking about pink elephants!" Of course, your brain will do nothing but send you thoughts of pink elephants. That's why one of the key strategies for OCD is to ignore the intrusive thoughts, even though it feels terribly wrong to do so. We feel like we have to push them away, cancel them out, or ask forgiveness for them. But the truth is, it's just our overloaded brain pushing out the thoughts because it knows we're so afraid of them. By ignoring the thoughts, we're training our brain that the thoughts are meaningless and we don't have to be afraid of them. Consequently, our fear diminishes, and - surprise! - so do the thoughts.
Hi,
 
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Hi, Mari17,
I had suffered from these thoughts from March of 1980 to probably early 2000s. Had anyone told me that it would last so long, or that Jesus would reveal His love for me in the ways He did during that period- I would not believe them. I can relate so well to all the sufferers, and thought I was the only one out there suffering like that. After many years, I was suddenly free, and so free for so long that I actually could not remember what the torment was like. Recently, though, it has returned with a vengeance. Your response, according to all that I have read about OCD, the thoughts, and the spiritual concern and agony that the writers have expressed; makes tremendous sense, and is calming, comforting, and reasonable. The love for Christ that these dear ones have, their concern for their salvation and for His Name to remain holy in their minds, shows they want to walk in their salvation, just like me. Just understanding that these thoughts are illogical and nonsensical doesn't help, because they don't stop. Dr Dobson said once it's like being on a merry go round that you can't get off, but that we don't have to let these thoughts control us. That sank in, and helped, too. What you said will help me, and will help others, too. Keeping our minds focused on the Word, listening to audio Bible and great teaching, (Tim Keller and Ravi Zacharias by the hour for me) memorizing scriptures, staying with truth, worship music- all help. But what you said about ignoring the thoughts is crucial. We stand in Christ because of what He did for us, not because of what we do for Him. I did take Prozac for over eight years, and agree that the cause of OCD is chemical in some cases. I learned three things after those 30 years, and remember them now- 1. The Holy Spirit in us is like a pilot light in a gas stove. It may be small and hidden away, but it never goes out. Jesus is like that. He never, ever leaves us. 2. The Word of God is in black and white. No matter what our minds are screaming at us, no matter how bad the headaches get, those words never change. 3. God knows your name. His love is everlasting. He hears us, He sees us, He has only grace, love, and mercy for us. 1 John assures us that He is greater than our heart. I used to wonder, how could God ever use what I went through to help others? Now I know. Romans 5:1 says, Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand. Peace! I thought I would never know what that was like. But, all of you fellow sufferers, you will know, you can know. It can come. Get help from a counselor if needed, and know that there is nothing that can separate you from God's love. Jesus wore a crown of thorns that pressed into His skull, perhaps representing His suffering for those with mental torment. Cutters get their own story too, in Mark 5, the poor man was crying and cutting himself with stones. I had written in the margin at that place, "I know how he felt," but Jesus came, and set him free. OH, Jesus loves us so much!
 
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Hi, Mari17,
I had suffered from these thoughts from March of 1980 to probably early 2000s. Had anyone told me that it would last so long, or that Jesus would reveal His love for me in the ways He did during that period- I would not believe them. I can relate so well to all the sufferers, and thought I was the only one out there suffering like that. After many years, I was suddenly free, and so free for so long that I actually could not remember what the torment was like. Recently, though, it has returned with a vengeance. Your response, according to all that I have read about OCD, the thoughts, and the spiritual concern and agony that the writers have expressed; makes tremendous sense, and is calming, comforting, and reasonable. The love for Christ that these dear ones have, their concern for their salvation and for His Name to remain holy in their minds, shows they want to walk in their salvation, just like me. Just understanding that these thoughts are illogical and nonsensical doesn't help, because they don't stop. Dr Dobson said once it's like being on a merry go round that you can't get off, but that we don't have to let these thoughts control us. That sank in, and helped, too. What you said will help me, and will help others, too. Keeping our minds focused on the Word, listening to audio Bible and great teaching, (Tim Keller and Ravi Zacharias by the hour for me) memorizing scriptures, staying with truth, worship music- all help. But what you said about ignoring the thoughts is crucial. We stand in Christ because of what He did for us, not because of what we do for Him. I did take Prozac for over eight years, and agree that the cause of OCD is chemical in some cases. I learned three things after those 30 years, and remember them now- 1. The Holy Spirit in us is like a pilot light in a gas stove. It may be small and hidden away, but it never goes out. Jesus is like that. He never, ever leaves us. 2. The Word of God is in black and white. No matter what our minds are screaming at us, no matter how bad the headaches get, those words never change. 3. God knows your name. His love is everlasting. He hears us, He sees us, He has only grace, love, and mercy for us. 1 John assures us that He is greater than our heart. I used to wonder, how could God ever use what I went through to help others? Now I know. Romans 5:1 says, Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand. Peace! I thought I would never know what that was like. But, all of you fellow sufferers, you will know, you can know. It can come. Get help from a counselor if needed, and know that there is nothing that can separate you from God's love. Jesus wore a crown of thorns that pressed into His skull, perhaps representing His suffering for those with mental torment. Cutters get their own story too, in Mark 5, the poor man was crying and cutting himself with stones. I had written in the margin at that place, "I know how he felt," but Jesus came, and set him free. OH, Jesus loves us so much!
Thanks for your response and kind words! There definitely is a lot of hope for living in victory over OCD, and it can be used to draw us closer to God and teach us to trust Him more, which is wonderful! There are many great resources available to help with OCD, even specifically for Christians with OCD. One of my favorites is http://ocdandchristianity.com/. If you ever feel the need for more support, feel free to join the Facebook group "Christianity with Anxiety Disorders," which I am part of and is also a great resource.
 
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Thanks for your response and kind words! There definitely is a lot of hope for living in victory over OCD, and it can be used to draw us closer to God and teach us to trust Him more, which is wonderful! There are many great resources available to help with OCD, even specifically for Christians with OCD. One of my favorites is http://ocdandchristianity.com/. If you ever feel the need for more support, feel free to join the Facebook group "Christianity with Anxiety Disorders," which I am part of and is also a great resource.
Hi again,
Thank you for the website and FB information. I will connect to those two. It feels humbling and strange at my age to finally figure out so many things after so long. I am reading through Grantley Morris' great website, which has explained so much to me. I am so glad that I joined this forum. God bless you!
 
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