Homosexuality?

[alexiscurious]

"Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide."
Link: Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine

I was reading this and I was interested to discover that homosexuality is quite common among animals. My question to you is, why do other animals participate in these kind of acts if they are so unnatural and ungodly? Last I checked, animals can't sin? If homosexuality strongly displeases God, why did he make it such a common occurrence in all his creation? This kind of information tends to make me doubt that the commandment against homosexuality actually came directly from God and is not just another manmade concoction.

 

[Sketcher]

Animals aren't exactly a model for human morality. There are animals that kill and eat their mates after mating. There are animals that commonly commit rape. There are animals that castrate rivals of the same species. There are animals that abandon their young. "Because animals do it, humans should" is a very weak argument to me.

 

[drich0150]

"Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide."
Link: Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine

I was reading this and I was interested to discover that homosexuality is quite common among animals. My question to you is, why do other animals participate in these kind of acts if they are so unnatural and ungodly? Last I checked, animals can't sin? If homosexuality strongly displeases God, why did he make it such a common occurrence in all his creation? This kind of information tends to make me doubt that the commandment against homosexuality actually came directly from God and is not just another manmade concoction.

You do know there are instances of herto sexual sex being identified as sin as well, and all existing species have heterosexual sex. That would mean those of us who are self aware would be held to a higher standard than animals who follow primal instinct.

Matter of fact all sinful sex falls under the same category.
That is sex outside the confines of a Santified marriage.

 

[aiki]

"Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide."
Link: Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine

I was reading this and I was interested to discover that homosexuality is quite common among animals. My question to you is, why do other animals participate in these kind of acts if they are so unnatural and ungodly? Last I checked, animals can't sin? If homosexuality strongly displeases God, why did he make it such a common occurrence in all his creation? This kind of information tends to make me doubt that the commandment against homosexuality actually came directly from God and is not just another manmade concoction.

Are animals, when they engage in what we call homosexual activity, thinking of it themselves as homosexuality? Of course not. They are simply responding to their reproductive instincts indiscriminately as animals do. There is no same-sex attraction among animals, just sexual activity wherever it appears possible. This is why dogs go after our legs, and rabbits try to copulate with balloons. Dogs aren't leg-sexual and rabbits aren't balloon-sexual. They aren't acting on abberrant sexual desires as humans are, but are solely compelled by an instinctive impulse to procreate. In light of this, it is silly to try to reason from their behaviour to ours. Animals aren't capable of homosexuality; that is the perversion of humans. Animals are merely indiscriminate about their attempts to procreate, which is what, in part, makes them animals.

The question of God making animals homosexual mistakes entirely, then, what animals are doing when they attempt same-sex copulation and thus becomes irrelevant to the question of the biblical condemnation of homosexuality.

Selah.

 

[football5680]

It is also natural for animals to kill their own kind so should the prohibition of Murder expressed in the Bible be considered a manmade concoction? Most animals are incapable of higher reasoning so they just act based on their primal instincts. The desire for sex is a natural instinct and their brains are not going to distinguish between heterosexual sex and homosexual sex. The fact that animals can't sin is not because God designed them to be sin free, it is because we don't judge them. If we judged them by the same standards that we judge humans then they would be sinning.

We also shouldn't lower our standards to the level of animals to try and make an argument. If I call somebody an animal then I doubt they would take it as a compliment.

 

[ihavefoundgod951]

10% is hardly a high percentage but I get what you are saying.

On the subject of should gays be excluded from church, my answer is no. We are all sinners. Homosexuality is a sin, I hate what they are doing, I hate sin. But I love them. Should they be able to come to church to worship God yes I think so.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

But however I urge homosexuals to pray to God for deliverance,

The bible says, submit to the Lord resist the devil and he will flee.

God bless

 

[graceandpeace]

All of creation is in need of redemption. The Christian hope is that one day God will set all things right - all things made whole & new.

That said, many Christians do not consider homosexuality or SS relationships to be inherently wrong or forbidden by the Bible. An explanation of that viewpoint is not permitted by CF's rules.

 

[Bobinator]

I wasn't going to comment on this, knowing that it involves science and biology. But as I was closing the window to this thread, it dawned on me that all of creation fell into corruption from man's sin. So it wouldn't surprise me that the animal kingdom is suffering some type of fallout from man. Not to mention from all the contaminants we put in the environment these days.

Homosexuality serves no biological function in man. Period. We are not going through some so-called evolutionary transformation. Charles Darwin is in a stupor right now.

Romans 8:20- "For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,..."

Romans 8:22- "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

 

[ToBeBlessed]

ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Sexual sin in humans is a sin. It is NOT in any way an unforgivable sin.

The Word clearly outlines that the ONLY unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is unrelated to sexuality in any sense.

As far as the animal world, since we are made in God's image not animals I don't think that we in any way should view what animals do as having any bearing upon human sexuality or right or wrong in human beings.

Us comparing ourselves to animals is a grave error.