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I'm aware of the catch 22... which, viewed from a different angle, looks suspiciously like a cop out
theres a catch-22 to the mountain moving. One truly in faith desires what is in God's will to do, so the only time a mountain is gonna move is when God is ready for that mountain to moveAnd personally I take that passage as a statement of the size of the things we can do through God, that through Him the impossible is possible, and unmovable is movable.
Seriously... I think its metaphorical. Christ is saying we can do great things with a little faith, and this is true. My faith sustains me through the hardest of times. Times when I have felt like completely quiting life my faith has gotten me through.How so? Your reply when viewed from a different angle looks like a cop out. so basically that can be said about anything. I'm just giving my opinion of what I understand the verse to mean. What do you think it means?
I can agree with this.Seriously... I think its metaphorical. Christ is saying we can do great things with a little faith, and this is true. My faith sustains me through the hardest of times. Times when I have felt like completely quiting life my faith has gotten me through.
we are speaking of faith, which is not one built upon signs and wonders.But saying "you could move it if God wanted you to, but God doesn't want you too" is just as testable and verifiable a statement as "you can't move mountains by faith"... but the first one seeks to keep God in the equation somehow, and try to make a failure of scripture to seem like a truth... thats the bit thats a cop out
if you take it literally, its a failure.I can agree with this.
we are speaking of faith, which is not one built upon signs and wonders.
Those verses are not in failure, only your interpretation of them is.
Do you believe that God is limited and cannot do such a thing?if you take it literally, its a failure.
No. I believe God is omnipotent.Do you believe that God is limited and cannot do such a thing?
An Homosexual desire is sin.
A lustful desire is sin.
Commiting sodomy is sin.
We don't need a spycam. Openly homosexual people give themselves away.
Making a willing choice to be Godless abominations! Duh!So what exactly is the sin that openly homosexual people keep practicing?
David.
except for all the times that it doesn't.
So what exactly is the sin that openly homosexual people keep practicing?
David.
And so all the times you've prayed to God that I would stop pointing out the errors in your posts, and presenting your inaccuracies and self contradictions, not to mention the Bible's... what went wrong?If it doesn't happen, then you speak amiss. When you and the Soirit of God are completely united, then what you will to come about is exactly what God desires--it will happen every time.
In Jesus Christ and by the power of the Holy Spirit I can speak that which is not as though it were!
yes, because homosexuals are incapable of having a monogomous loving relationship like TRUE ChristiansLust, sex, whatever method they choose, lewdness, fornication, adultery in some, and in cases where they claim Christianity--hypocrisy, doubt, heresy, and blasphemy.
Those "ordained Christian ministers" must have got their certification out of a Cracker Jacks box!
They are no more Christian in their beliefs than my shoe.
Only people who have had a life-changing, regenerating meeting with the living God through the resurrected Jesus Christ, the Messiah, can call themselves Christians.
Those examples you gave of early times reveal men and women who also were not Christians if they denied the resurrection.
One cannot deny the basic truths of the Lord Jesus Christ and take the name of Christian and actually BE one.
I have no idea why people would bother to teach the New Testament and not embrace its truth. You are following after blind guides. What a waste of time.
It is a spiritual work of God that changes a person--makes them new so that they no longer are slaves to sin. Homosexuals are a case in point--they are unregenerated and reveal that they are not Christians because they have not renounced their sin (refer to scripture given previously).
And so all the times you've prayed to God that I would stop pointing out the errors in your posts, and presenting your inaccuracies and self contradictions, not to mention the Bible's... what went wrong?
Given that the only verses of Scripture that are brought to bear on the matter appear to refer to male-male sex (and may not necessarily refer to that, or at least may not be a blanket ban on all forms of it), what exactly is the sin that homosexuals have not renounced? How do you know with such absolute certainty that a homosexual can't possibly be regenerate? Surely if a homosexual repents of his or her sins and turns to Jesus Christ and receives His gift of salvation, they are born again. To be a homosexual and to be born again of God is not a contradiction.
David.
davidbrider said:So what exactly is the sin that openly homosexual people keep practicing?
Lust, sex, whatever method they choose, lewdness, fornication, adultery in some, and in cases where they claim Christianity--hypocrisy, doubt, heresy, and blasphemy.
You cannot be born again if you haven't fully renounced your sin and turned from it. To come to Christ and then run right back into the sin you supposedly renounced is a false conversion.
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