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AureateDawn

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If someone who is gay is a Christian, will they go to Hell? I mean, especially if they've tried and tried and prayed and prayed, and they can't get over it, will they go to Hell? Because in the Bible it says something, something, something, nor homosexuals shall enter the kingdom of heaven.

But then that is contradictory sort of, because the only unpardonable sin is unbelief.
 
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The unpardonable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit which is worse than unbelief.
 
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AnomalousSilence said:
So if I say darn the Holy Spirit, but use the other word, I'm going to Hell? I thought it was unbelief? *boggles*

No. St. John Chrysostom said it this way. If you have no proof of the existence of God, then you are in a sense with an excuse. But, if you have seen the power of the Holy Spirit, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, or some other miracle, and attribute it to evil, you have a big problem.

Basically it boils down to this; the demons know, without a doubt, that God exists, yet they attribute evil to God and reject Him.

That's it in a nutshell.
 
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AnomalousSilence said:
I see. So what about gays if it says that etc. nor homosexuals shall enter the kingdom of heaven?

Niether shall murderers, adulterers and fornicators and most rich people.

"But where shall we go? For you have the words of eternal life"
St. Peter
 
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People displaying the fruits of the spirit are drawn away from such things. At least, this is my understanding of it. In other words, going out and sleeping with numerous people [either gender] while going to Church and memorizing Bible verses isn't necessarily the same as being moved by the Holy Spirit.
 
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I hope that the following will help...

Romans 6

Dead to Sin, Alive in Christ
Whether they will go to hell or not is up to God. Only He can judge people. But we should remember that God will never bring something unto our path that we will be unable to overcome with His love and help. So to me, there is no such thing as "can't get over it".
 
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AnomalousSilence said:
Whoever said all gays do that? I am talking about a gay person who is committed to one person, lives a life for God, but just couldn't change his attractions.

It is not the 'attraction' to other men that is a sin. Remember, sinful desire is in all of us, it is our very nature. Some people may be more inclined to have the desire to steal more so then others do. However, it is not the desire that is sinful. What is sinful is responding to that desire and actaully commiting it.

Being gay is not a sin, acting on your homosexual desires is however. Something that can be stopped.

The feelings may be strong, but God is stronger.

1 Cor. 10:13
13No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.

Sinning is fun, if it wasn't we wouldn't have a problem with it, but what is 80 years on in this life compared to "forever" in the next? Be smart, fear God - follow His rules.
 
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Answer to the OP:

No.

Even if it is a sin (which it isn't), if you're a follower of Christ and have accepted His Forgiveness, then it's not going to get in the way.

How many of us can say that we've not committed any sin since becoming a Christian? Christianity is a relationship with the divine, it's not a set of rules (that would be Pharasaism.)
 
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It's not a set of rules I agree (since salvation is by faith, not by works), but if somebody claims he is a Christian and still has sex with men/women out of wedlock (and does not see a contradiction between these two), then I'd have doubt about his salvation.
I'm not talking about the gay person who decided to accept Jesus Christ as his lord and savior and sometimes yields to temptation, but rather those who repeatedly do so and show utter disregard for the word of God.

Bottom-line is : I don't think you can be involved in a homesexual relationship and still be a genuine Christian. If you were so, you would do what God has told you to do, which is not have homosexual sex.

It's not the amount of sin that counts but rather you relationship to it. Are you repentent when you find out you have sinned, or do you turn a blind eye and pretend it's not a sin ?
 
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But did God actually say that homosexuality is wrong?

Just kill that line of argument now as it will invariably lead down the same road that all the other homosexuality has gone down - arguing over greek roots.
 
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And who are we to pontificate on whether one person or another is saved?

Who are we to say that someone is, or is not, a genuine Christian.

Just try putting "pride", "proudful" and "arrogant" instead of "Homosexuality", and "homosexual" and "homosexual behaviour" in these posts. And then see where you yourselves stand.

And then shut up!
 
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Excellent and profound advice!
 
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As a repentant homosexual, I can say that your words couldn't be more true!

Reps to you!
 
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Reps to you, Brother!
 
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