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I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??
 

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I wouldn't even bring up the gay thing right away. Just talk to him about Jesus and being saved. If you think he is seriously considering coming to the Lord, tell him about what God expects of him. Purity is major one. Show him the scripture, tell him that God doesn't hate him, but wants to change him out of love. And that he expect purity of everyone, including yourself.

He may run from you now, but he may not run from the next person. I find once someone has been told the truth about God it will stay with them, and eventually (if it is God's will of course) it will catch up to them. If he doesn't come to Lord now, don't worry you did all you can do and God will take it from there.
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??

Share with him out of love. Treat him just as you would any other sinner. The Bible not only says that Homosexuality is an abomination, it says that SIN is an abomination before the Lord. Chances are, he may have come from an abusive and unloving past. Share God's love and see if he opens up to you. Don't compromise the word of God, but don't push it at him if he's not open either. Let him know that there is an alternative to living like he does. His heart already is convicted. His biggest struggle may be faith. If you get the opportunity share scriptures on putting faith in God to be able to change. If he receives scripture, share faith encouraging scripture often.

If you get involved, it may be a long haul, so you must be committed and lead by the Holy Spirit. You just may get a friend, so be wise and diligent and seek God in prayer for him often. Hope this helps! ;)
 
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Its funny that you asked this question because my girlfriend witnessed to a homosexual man last Saturday night. She has witnessed alot over the years to all types of people. I'm still green at this. So I'm in the learning mode myself. I can't remember exactly what she said during her witnessing. But she was very kind to the guy. She never humiliated him or put him down. He appreciated her kindness and the fact that she didn't shove the Bible down his throat because he had several people do this to him over the years. At the end, she encouraged him to pray to God that night and ask the Lord to show him the right way to live versus his own life. And he said ok.

One thing that she and I did that night before she witnessed was pray over the people that we were to witness to. That helped tremendously.
 
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How do you know he doesn't already know Jesus?

See, this is why christians get a bad name. If you want to witness, do it in a way that you would for the benefit of any human being. And don't feel special just because you're willing to talk to a gay person from work. No one is going to give you a cookie for that. I get so irritated when I hear people say ,"Oh, guess what! There's a lesbian where I work! And I gave her a tract! Isn't that just glorious!!!"
 
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feline said:
How do you know he doesn't already know Jesus?

See, this is why christians get a bad name. If you want to witness, do it in a way that you would for the benefit of any human being. And don't feel special just because you're willing to talk to a gay person from work. No one is going to give you a cookie for that. I get so irritated when I hear people say ,"Oh, guess what! There's a lesbian where I work! And I gave her a tract! Isn't that just glorious!!!"


I never said that I would feel special. All I know is that I can tell that he is hurting just by his actions. Also, if he did know Jesus, then every other word out of his mouth would not be Gods name in vain. It is not about me, it is all about Jesus. And at work many people have outcasted him and said stuff about him that is not true just because he is gay. Therefore, I would like to try and befriend him because its not fair for people to treat him badly because of his sexual orientation. Im not trying to get the glory, I am just trying to lead people to Jesus. I may not have to say anything someone once said that I may be the only Bible that people see. My actions will speak all.
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??
First, yes, the Bible condemns homosexual sex. If you want the abomination verse, I can find it. Don't let anyone try to tell you that it was a misconstrued translation or that "those rules don't apply anymore." God's word is perfect and eternal. That means it applies today just as it did hundreds of years ago. And yes there is a difference between Levitical Law designed for health reasons that we Gentiles do not adhere too, but thats for another forum! Both the Old Testament and New Testament discuss the issue, and you will hear some say well, it's just certain sexual acts or its just certain people. Don't buy it. I will probably get some nasty posts in response for this but that's okay. I would rather err on the side of caution then err on the side going the way my flesh feels is right and believe me my flesh tells me desiring another man is correct. If I live my life to honor God by certain actions or lack thereof, I think God will honor that in the end, whether I'm right or wrong... Read the word for yourself, do research, look at the Greek and Hebrew texts and figure out for yourself. With that being said, I am a young Christian guy who struggles with same sex attraction. I have not acted upon that because I understand through my conviction and God's word and his design for us that it is not how I can live my life. So, after saying that as well, let me say this. You know he is hurting. Just be there for him. Just love him as you would love anyone else. Homosexuality shouldn't even be an issue. It should be, hey this person, from his actions and the fruit in his life, does not appear to know the Lord. We shall know a tree by its fruit. So, just be there for him as the best friend you can be. If Jesus' light is in you, he will see it and want to know why you are different. Then you can share why. But don't bring up homosexuality at ALL. Chances are, once you get to know him and once you form a relationship and pray for him on a regular basis, he will probably eventually say, "As a Christian, don't you think homosexuality is wrong, and therefore see me as wrong?" Then you can share that you try to follow God's word and you dont try to single out any one sin as wrong or worse than others. You just accept that we are all fallen creatures and have our own problems that we deal with and that you are called to love others, period. From there, who knows! Just pray about it. If God has laid a burden on your heart for him, it will be awesome to see what happens.
 
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Treat this person as Jesus treated all of the sinners who crossed His path. I would not even bring up Jesus till asked. I would be loving and compassionate, and a friend to this person. Pray for the Lord to prompt his heart to crave what you have.

Also, I would not mention his sexuality when I do witness. I would point out that all are sinners, even you. Let the Holy Spirit work in his life to bring him to a conviction that he is sinning in his sexual behavior.
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??


Just TALK to him. He could be a believer....being Gay is a sin...so is hate, judging, lieing, guilt, gossip, maligning, murder, sins of the tounge, abuse, cheating..etc...etc...

Jesus died on the cross for ALL.......again ALL sins, it is called Redemtion...and once you accept salvation you are given 46 things IMMEDIATELY from Christ, we are then in Union with Him AND A PERMANENT MEMBER of the Royal Family.

You do NOT know if he is an un-believer?...just because he's gay...and if he is a beleiver...then he is a CARNAL believer, out of fellowship, quenching and greiving the spirit, black out of the soul....BUT he is STILL in the ROYAL FAMILY...and THAT will NEVER change..

Look at King David..... he had Horia the Hittite murdered (Bathshebas's husband) this made him a murderer, David is in Paradise right now....REMEMBER..."IT IS NOT WHAT WE DO, IT IS WHAT HE DID FOR US"

WE ARE NOT ANY LONGER UNDER THE LAW...WE ARE NOW UNDER GRACE

What you should concentrate on is he a beliver or not...and let God worry about him being gay.........By the way I do not condone homosexuality...it is forbidden, but then so are ALL of the other sins I have mentioned.

And did you know that God has 7 sins that are the worst sins;

3 are mental attitude sins

3 are sins of the tounge and

1 is the only overt sin ....murder

The number 1 BIG SIN :thumbsup: ....PRIDE...just like Satan (mental attitude sin)
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??

First of all the Bible does not say that homosexuality is an abomination. Gang rape, idol worshipping sex and temple prostitution are the topics that are the specific acts that the Bible is referring to but it never specifically condemns a same sex loving and committed relationship.

Second, the Bible does not say "Love the sinner Hate the sin". When we invite hate into our lives we destroy our spirits. It is also nearly impossible to hate what the way someone lives their life without hating the person.

Third. If you do decide to "witness" to him about his "sin" the best option for him would be to report you for harassment. The best option for the company would be in turn to terminate your employment.

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Mountain Mama said:
Share with him out of love. Treat him just as you would any other sinner. The Bible not only says that Homosexuality is an abomination, it says that SIN is an abomination before the Lord. Chances are, he may have come from an abusive and unloving past. Share God's love and see if he opens up to you. Don't compromise the word of God, but don't push it at him if he's not open either. Let him know that there is an alternative to living like he does. His heart already is convicted. His biggest struggle may be faith. If you get the opportunity share scriptures on putting faith in God to be able to change. If he receives scripture, share faith encouraging scripture often.
Why would you assume that?

Do you think people are "made" gay because they were abused? ROFL, how ignorant of you.
 
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Treat this person as Jesus treated all of the sinners who crossed His path. I would not even bring up Jesus till asked. I would be loving and compassionate, and a friend to this person. Pray for the Lord to prompt his heart to crave what you have.

Also, I would not mention his sexuality when I do witness. I would point out that all are sinners, even you. Let the Holy Spirit work in his life to bring him to a conviction that he is sinning in his sexual behavior.

Amen. I use to be so against Homo-sexuality. I still am because its a sin but I would just look at that person as being a sick lost soul. In reality we are all equal to the homo-sexuals in that we all sin. Homo-sexuality is no bigger sin than the other ones. I never thought of it that way until I watched Kirk Cameron witness to the Gay community. He witnessed through love and passion. Showing them the ten commandments and showing how we sin and then telling the story of what Jesus did for us. We are no better than the homo-sexuals in our community. We all fall short of the Glory to God. Witness to the Gay community as you would anyone else.
 
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All I have to say is be very careful. I am someone who struggles w/ homosexuality and I can tell you that just controling your thoughts is a second to second battle. THe Bible tells us to fight all sin but when it comes to sexual sins to run. That's cause it is VERY suductive and physically pleasing. Understand that human nature says do what FEELS right. It probably feels right to him but feelings lead us astray. So he is naturally going to see it as alright because of the fact that it makes him feel good. SO when you evenutually do bring up the subject of Christ, stress that feelings are deseptive. You might want to use a personal struggle of your own as an example. Explain how even Christians want to do what FEELS good but we know that feelings lie.

Just be very cautious and try to understand how hard it is to fight something like that. I've been fighting bakc for 6+ months now and it is a very hard temptation to combat. Like any sexual temptation it is very powerful. Understand that. It is very important cause say that you can just stop, but stopping is much more complex then we want to think. But, from experiance w/ ministry, pray about it before hand. Then He will help you and you'll make progress. Remember you just have to plant the seed
 
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Davis said:
Amen. I use to be so against Homo-sexuality. I still am because its a sin but I would just look at that person as being a sick lost soul. In reality we are all equal to the homo-sexuals in that we all sin. Homo-sexuality is no bigger sin than the other ones. I never thought of it that way until I watched Kirk Cameron witness to the Gay community. He witnessed through love and passion. Showing them the ten commandments and showing how we sin and then telling the story of what Jesus did for us. We are no better than the homo-sexuals in our community. We all fall short of the Glory to God. Witness to the Gay community as you would anyone else.

See, this is the kinda saccharine mixed with toxin that turns Christian Homosexuals, or struggling homosexuals into a downward spiral. So this is how you witness to them? By saying, don't worry we're just as BAD as you???

See, oh and I have seen Cameron's witnessing to GLBT people, this is pretty on the outside and sounds sweet and Christ-Like, but a simple peeling away and it is revealed as self righteous Pharisee-ism.

I love that you said that Homosexuality is no bigger sin than any other, you are blessed and Christian to see that while others are blinded, but I don't like the hidden messages in the fake empathy in preaching such as, but not limited, to kirk cameron.

Peace and Love
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First of all the Bible does not say that homosexuality is an abomination. Gang rape, idol worshipping sex and temple prostitution are the topics that are the specific acts that the Bible is referring to but it never specifically condemns a same sex loving and committed relationship.

Second, the Bible does not say "Love the sinner Hate the sin". When we invite hate into our lives we destroy our spirits. It is also nearly impossible to hate what the way someone lives their life without hating the person.

Third. If you do decide to "witness" to him about his "sin" the best option for him would be to report you for harassment. The best option for the company would be in turn to terminate your employment.

Brian
First of all, it does speak about homosexuality and it condemns it:

Romans 1: 26-27
Because of this God gave them over to their shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also were inflamed with lust for one another. Men commited indecint acts with other men, and recieved in themselves the due penalty for their preversion.

In this verse we not only gather that it is unnatural and wrong, but also that it is NOT God given.
"Even their women exchanged natural relations"
They gave up natural realations for unnatural ones. It did not say, "Even their women were created as a perversion before God". It's an enviromental thing not God given.

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be decived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor theives nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you have been washed, you have been sanctified, you have been justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Paul not only names sexual immorality as a whole, but also other parts of it that the church in Corinth had been neglecting. Male Prostitution, homosexuality and adultery.
Also we can look at how God created it in the beginning. Sex before marriage is a sin. And the only Godly marriage is between one man and one woman. So that already rules out homosexual behavoir as being "normal".
Now if all of these fit under sexual immorality there are many many verses in the New Testament that support this claim.
I don't have time to type them all out now but I will name them so you can read them yourself.
1 Corinthians 6: 15-18
1 Corinthains 10: 5-10
2 Corinthians 12: 21

People can go on sinning and ignoring the Holy Spirit. I have. But at one point you have to realize that sin makes it so you can't come to God fully. Because all of your devotion is not on him, a part of you is being tied to sin and that part cannot come into fellowship with the Lord until your confess and repent (in that order, it doen't owkr the other way around.)
Paul talks about sexual immorality in a very harsh way. Because it is very serious. Not only is it sin (all kinds of sexual immorality) and that it separates you and God. But also that God knows a better way, God knows a happier and more fullfilling way. When he created man and woman he said it was good. So why are we trust our way rather than God's way?

Humble servant in Christ,
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marianservant said:
See, this is the kinda saccharine mixed with toxin that turns Christian Homosexuals, or struggling homosexuals into a downward spiral. So this is how you witness to them? By saying, don't worry we're just as BAD as you???

See, oh and I have seen Cameron's witnessing to GLBT people, this is pretty on the outside and sounds sweet and Christ-Like, but a simple peeling away and it is revealed as self righteous Pharisee-ism.

I love that you said that Homosexuality is no bigger sin than any other, you are blessed and Christian to see that while others are blinded, but I don't like the hidden messages in the fake empathy in preaching such as, but not limited, to kirk cameron.

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Downward spiral? By telling them that there sin of Homosexuality is a sin just like lying, lust, murder, etc? Thats the truth? How is that sugar coating anything? There sinners just like us. Its not right and neither is any of the sins that we do. What Kirk does is witness to them by starting out with asking them about the Ten Commandments and showing them that they do lie and lust like most people do. All of us have broken one of the Ten Commandments at least one time which makes us a sinner all the way. Than he goes and tells them about the love of Jesus Christ and how Homosexuality is actually a sin too and that Jesus can whipe that sin away.

I dont know what your getting at but thats exactly how you should witness to a person through love and compassion. Not hatred and pushiness. Were not the ones that turn people to Christ. We give the info, God does the work.
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
I know that the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. And I also know that we should treat everyone equally. As the saying goes, hate the sin love the sinner. Well, my boss recently hired a new person and he is gay. He lives with his "better half" as he says. My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??
All people know down inside that they are sinners. Homosexuality is not the only sin that a homosexual commits.

The best way to reach a homosexual is to first of all demonstrate Christ's love. We should not react to homosexuality as if it were "dirtier" than other sins. God also says that being proud in heart is an abomination (Prov. 16:5).

When you speak to this person, deal with the general fact of his sinfulness aside from homosexuality. Then deal with the gospel and the forgiveness of sin in Christ. I have had the privilege of leading two homosexuals to Christ in my life. They understood that they were sinners in other ways. When God convicted them of those sins, they came to Christ. It did not take long before the Holy Spirit convicted them of their gay lifestyle. They then began to seek Him to help them with that issue.

Understand that coming to Christ and giving up homosexuality for such a person is a very frightening thing to face. If a heterosexual comes to Christ, they must make a decision to be faithful to one person for the rest of his or her life. When a homosexual comes to Christ, he or she is faced with the possibility that sexual purity may mean never having a romantic or sexual relationship with anyone for the rest of their lives; they may have to remain celibate and alone for the remainder of their lives. They cannot see a possiblity of "changing" to a heterosexual life or relationship. They do not see the possibility of God miraculously changing their minds and hearts in such a way that they could ever find a satisfying lifelong heterosexual relationship. And quite frankly that is often just the way it goes. This is all especially difficult for them if they are currently involved in a long-term homosexual relationship which they would have to leave if they were to come to Christ and realize the wrongness of what they are doing.

Be kind and patient with such people. They need love and understanding just as much as the rest of us.
 
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Liz4Jesus said:
My question is, what is a good way for me to witness to him and to share the gospel of Jesus with him without scaring him and being one of those people if you dont stop this you will go to hell. Anyone got any advice??
My advice is that you just be honest and ask if he is religious or if he would mind becoming religious.
 
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