HOMOSEXUALITY is

[njcl]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

 

[Brieuse]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

So, if homosexuals commit adultery, is that a double sin?

 

[ReformedChapin]

So, if homosexuals commit adultery, is that a double sin?

If I lied and killed someone is that a double sin?

 

[tulc]

If I lied and killed someone is that a double sin?

Well wouldn't that depend on if you lied about killing someone or just said that you didn't know where they are?
tulc(because that last one could be the truth, like you threw the body in the river so really you don't know where they are)

 

[EnemyPartyII]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

I'd still like someone to explain to me WHY God has such a problem with it, if, in fact, he does.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

You read the bible the way you were taught. What the bible says so clearly to you..others will look at it and say it says something clearly different. That is what the bible does. People try to take it literally without using their minds. The bible is used by Jewish people that are still waiting for the messiah. The bible is used by Christians...who have received their messiah. The bible is used by Amish, whom live completely different than any of the two I just mentioned. People used the bible to say it clearly supported slavery. They used the bible to say it clearly says womens hould stay out of preaching in the church. The bible says fathers should allow their daughters to be raped by visitors (Sodom/Lot). The bible says a lot of things to alot of people. Keep that in mind when you say "the bible clearly says". Trust me..what the bible clearly says to me..is not what the bible clearly says to you...hence all the discussion and threads here. Peace

 

[ReformedChapin]

Well wouldn't that depend on if you lied about killing someone or just said that you didn't know where they are?
tulc(because that last one could be the truth, like you threw the body in the river so really you don't know where they are)

Nah, if lied to someone about killing another individual.

 

[Brieuse]

I'd still like someone to explain to me WHY God has such a problem with it, if, in fact, he does.

me too!

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]I'd still like someone to explain to me WHY God has such a problem with it, if, in fact, he does.[/SIZE]

Why don't you ask him, he gave the law. None of us did.

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]You read the bible the way you were taught. What the bible says so clearly to you..others will look at it and say it says something clearly different. That is what the bible does. People try to take it literally without using their minds. [/SIZE]

Homosexuals do that. No discernment whatsoever. If it is posted on a homosexual website and it attacks the historical interpretation of the Bible, then it must be right.

[SIZE=-1]The bible is used by Jewish people that are still waiting for the messiah. The bible is used by Christians...who have received their messiah. The bible is used by Amish, whom live completely different than any of the two I just mentioned. People used the bible to say it clearly supported slavery. They used the bible to say it clearly says womens hould stay out of preaching in the church.[/size]

A few did and do and your point is? Not so long ago guy down in Waco thought he was the messiah. Got fried. Is that any justification to trash the Bible?

[SIZE=-1]The bible says fathers should allow their daughters to be raped by visitors (Sodom/Lot).[/size]

I do believe that this is a deliberate perversion of scripture for the purpose furthering one's agenda. Where does the text state or imply that anyone "should allow their daughters to be raped by visitors?" The fact that some person in the Bible does or says something does not mean that any other person "should" do or say the same thing.

[SIZE=-1]The bible says a lot of things to alot of people. Keep that in mind when you say "the bible clearly says". Trust me..what the bible clearly says to me..is not what the bible clearly says to you...hence all the discussion and threads here. Peace[/size]

Yes, the Bible does say a lot of things to a lot of people. Too often what it says matches exactly the assumptions and presuppositions they had going in.

OTOH there are many who put in the time and dig beyond what their friends and neighbors believe, what their pastors told them, and actually learn the original languages and the historical interpretation, e.g. the Talmud and ECF. Ooops, neither one supports the topic of this thread.

 

[Der Alte]

*bump*

 

[ILove2Worship]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

To a small point I agree with you. Some people just need to read Corinthians to know the Laws that have been set forth for us. But others just argue that. So either way the people who read the Bible how it is written will never get through those who read the Bible how they want to.

 

[davedjy]

all these threads devoted to this subject,you only need to read the bible to know how GOD percieves it,its an abhorant act to him,unnatural {st paul} as is lesbianism but i dont rate it myself any worse than adultery,yet the adulterers are not vilified like the homosexuals,odd,

nevertheless i always go along with the old adage "hate the sin,love the person".............peace........

There are 10 Commandments, homosexuality is not one that is forbidden, that would make 11.

 

[ILove2Worship]

There are 10 Commandments, homosexuality is not one that is forbidden, that would make 11.

Homosexuality is not in the Commandments we couldnt tell by your crazy post that you were searching for them! We all know that and he made no notion that it was a Commandment. He said its a sin and it is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, read it bro!

 

[BAFRIEND]

HOMOSEXUALITY is a sin.

 

[davedjy]

Homosexuality is not in the Commandments we couldnt tell by your crazy post that you were searching for them! We all know that and he made no notion that it was a Commandment. He said its a sin and it is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, read it bro!

False translation of the Greek word, arsenokoitai. Do some research before debating here, sis.

 

[ILove2Worship]

False translation of the Greek word, arsenokoitai. Do some research before debating here, sis.

If its false why didnt a Bible scholar correct it before printed if you want to get that technical

 

[BAFRIEND]

Homosexuality is not in the Commandments

Homosexual is someone with an orientation and in and of itself is not sinful... but homosexuality, acting on the orientation falls under the sin of adultery (sex outside marriage) and that is a sin and is in the Commandments.

 

[brothersean]

I don't understand the constant debate about homosexuals and salvation. It is crystal clear throughout the Bible that God does not approve of that sort of behavior. To call homosexuality not sinful, is common among liberals and non-Christians, but of course, the Bible is not their book. So why is it such a debate among even conservative and Christ-loving congregations?

 

[davedjy]

I don't understand the constant debate about homosexuals and salvation. It is crystal clear throughout the Bible that God does not approve of that sort of behavior. To call homosexuality not sinful, is common among liberals and non-Christians, but of course, the Bible is not their book. So why is it such a debate among even conservative and Christ-loving congregations?

There are 28 denominations that disagree with you, and have different, and what I am sure to be true interpretations of those passages of scripture. When you read the Bible you do not see the original Hebrew and Greek languages, just translations.